Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 3

[Gralin]

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. (Thread part 1 - cont in part 2, link in thread)

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 4

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Australian stats page:

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

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[swingdog]

Queensland declaring south-western Sydney hotspots. Prediction: NSW locks down those suburbs and then 5 days later, all of Sydney.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

He never did respond to my statement that it's not the death rate that's concerning, but the ongoing health effects, with many sufferers being young and having no underlying health conditions.

No substantiated evidence of those health effects

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Leaked emails have been reported in The Age stating that the Vic state government knew or were told the hotel security was inadequate from day one which I believe was March 28th.
It is established that the strain of covid-19 prevelant in Melbourne originated from quarantined os travellers in Melbourne.
Explaining it away as bad luck other states dodged a bullet may not cut it .

Andrews and his Health minister had a response where they locked down all of Victoria fairly hard when it was pretty obvious that all of our cases were originating with travellers.
He focused on heavy handed enforcement , making sure that we didn't learn to drive and stuff, while failing to focus on the returned travellers who were the obvious cause.

If they'd allowed full crowds at AFL round 1, it wouldn't have spread the virus as much as the hotel security has .

We knew there was a high risk of travellers in those hotels having it, yet we palmed it off to "Dodgy Bruvvus Bouncers and Security" while the police were used to intimidate the public who had a 1 in 100 000 chance of having it.

 

[bonddm]

Leaked emails have been reported in The Age stating that the Vic state government knew or were told the hotel security was inadequate from day one which I believe was March 28th.

“The state’s Chief Health Officer said on Monday it was "conceivable" that all the active COVID-19 cases in Victoria stemmed from Melbourne’s problem quarantine hotel program.”

Leaked emails reveal government knew of problems on day one of hotel quarantine

Correspondence between government departments shows top government bureaucrats were concerned about the role of security guards in the program, requesting police be called in to replace them.

www.theage.com.au

Leaked emails reveal government knew of problems on day one of hotel quarantine — The Age

Correspondence between government departments shows top government bureaucrats were concerned about the role of security guards in the program, requesting police be called in to replace them.

apple.news

 

[kranky al]

Good to hear that Gina will be well looked after for the immediate future.

Even in Victoria most non-hospitality businesses are still going, though depending what they are they may have downturns.

You guys are so proud of the fact that people in china want your dirt , and you can dig it.

Its probably a little more than that.

mining is australias largest export - 50% And during corona it was prob quite a bit higher again.

So to have that going strong while the country is in lockdown is handy right?

 

[kranky al]

No substantiated evidence of those health effects

Well of course not - the virus is six months old

Heres what they are surmising based on what they are seeing so far:

What are the long-term health risks following COVID-19?

Sequelae may include persistent pulmonary damage, post-viral fatigue and chronic cardiac complications.

www1.racgp.org.au

Long-term side effects of COVID-19 more extensive than previously believed, according to new findings

When COVID-19 first hit it was mainly thought of as a respiratory disease, but now we know the virus also goes after the digestive track, heart and even the brain.

www.khou.com

How Covid-19 can damage the brain

Some scientists suspect that Covid-19 causes respiratory failure and death not through damage to the lungs, but the brain – and other symptoms include headaches, strokes and seizures.

www.bbc.com

heres a comparison to long term effects from similar viruses:

The long-term health effects of COVID-19

Even mild symptoms from the new coronavirus can last for weeks, or disappear only to rebound with renewed intensity, so what long-term effects does the disease have on our health?

www.gavi.org

 

[FreeTK]

The suburbs that went in to lockdown as "covid hotspots" and restricted postcodes have been in lockdown for almost two weeks now, and yet the cases continue to rise.

Difficult to see Victoria being successful in driving down numbers enough to lift lockdown in 5 weeks.

 

[owen87]

The suburbs that went in to lockdown as "covid hotspots" and restricted postcodes have been in lockdown for almost two weeks now, and yet the cases continue to rise.

Difficult to see Victoria being successful in driving down numbers enough to lift lockdown in 5 weeks.

I think 6 weeks was always a bare minimum number, we've been forced in to a position where unless there's outbreaks in other states, they'll refuse to open the borders until our community transmission is effectively non-existent.

Testing rates are very high still, with < 1% of them returning positives, so it's not all doom and gloom. The more minimally symptomatic cases we pick-up now, the quicker the numbers will drop later.

 

[D-N-R]

The suburbs that went in to lockdown as "covid hotspots" and restricted postcodes have been in lockdown for almost two weeks now, and yet the cases continue to rise.

Difficult to see Victoria being successful in driving down numbers enough to lift lockdown in 5 weeks.

270 isn't a bad result. I thought yesterday's number was going to be adjusted upwards later in the day. The same number today is encouraging and hopefully represents a peak.

 

[FreeTK]

270 isn't a bad result. I thought yesterday's number was going to be adjusted upwards later in the day. The same number today is encouraging and hopefully represents a peak.

I think 6 weeks was always a bare minimum number, we've been forced in to a position where unless there's outbreaks in other states, they'll refuse to open the borders until our community transmission is effectively non-existent.

Testing rates are very high still, with < 1% of them returning positives, so it's not all doom and gloom. The more minimally symptomatic cases we pick-up now, the quicker the numbers will drop later.

There are over 1800 active cases in the community, which is a significant amount of virus in the community.

3 highest days of confirmed cases have been in the last 5 days.

These numbers are coming in 2 weeks after the initial restrictions on hotspots and a week after the entire Melbourne metro was placed in to lockdown.

 

[owen87]

There are over 1800 active cases in the community, which is a significant amount of virus in the community.

3 highest days of confirmed cases have been in the last 5 days.

These numbers are coming in 2 weeks after the initial restrictions on hotspots and a week after the entire Melbourne metro was placed in to lockdown.

What's the point you're trying to make though?

We know it's in the community, so there's an extremely high level of testing going on. This means finding all cases, including the asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic ones. So figures will be high, but finding them now, keeping them isolated, and being able to trace who they've come in to contact with, means the numbers will drop faster, later.

It's been less than a week since the Melbourne-wide lockdown was re-imposed, I wouldn't be expecting to see the numbers start to drop for another week. That they're not growing, whilst doing an extremely high number of tests, is very positive.

We're running at < 1% positives out of the testing we're doing, which suggests that this isn't rampantly running out of control and that we may well have got a lid on it before it was too late to do so.

 

[Sub_Zero]

so people diagnosed with Covid or close contacts of people who have been diagnosed, hopefully there are police checking these peoples homes a few times a day to ensure they are not leaving their houses.

 

[D-N-R]

There are over 1800 active cases in the community, which is a significant amount of virus in the community.

3 highest days of confirmed cases have been in the last 5 days.

These numbers are coming in 2 weeks after the initial restrictions on hotspots and a week after the entire Melbourne metro was placed in to lockdown.

If the daily cases keep rising, the yes, it will be bad.

As they are sitting around the same mark, and if this represents a peak, then it's not too bad.

The coming week will tell the story.

 

[new breed]

Didn't see this coming , getting through the season would be a huge effort and organisation , least clubs and Foxtel/ media outlets survive but a tricky situation weekly . I feel a little guilty enjoying the footy ......

 

[Maylandsman]

What's the point you're trying to make though?

We know it's in the community, so there's an extremely high level of testing going on. This means finding all cases, including the asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic ones. So figures will be high, but finding them now, keeping them isolated, and being able to trace who they've come in to contact with, means the numbers will drop faster, later.

It's been less than a week since the Melbourne-wide lockdown was re-imposed, I wouldn't be expecting to see the numbers start to drop for another week. That they're not growing, whilst doing an extremely high number of tests, is very positive.

We're running at < 1% positives out of the testing we're doing, which suggests that this isn't rampantly running out of control and that we may well have got a lid on it before it was too late to do so.

it would appear there is no exponential growth so far. Hopefully it remains this way so any outbreaks are manageable and because no one wants to traverse exponential growth.

 

[interestedoz1]

Really interesting decision (purely from a risk management perspective) to pump tbe vast majority of your returned travellers into your 2 biggest populations / economies VIC and NSW.


Fed Gov decision I believe. Can anyone confirm?

 

[owen87]

Really interesting decision (purely from a risk management perspective) to pump tbe vast majority of your returned travellers into your 2 biggest populations / economies VIC and NSW.


Fed Gov decision I believe. Can anyone confirm?

You mean they were flying in to the airports that already took the most international arrivals per annum?

 

[Cuzz09]

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[FreeTK]

Really interesting decision (purely from a risk management perspective) to pump tbe vast majority of your returned travellers into your 2 biggest populations / economies VIC and NSW.


Fed Gov decision I believe. Can anyone confirm?

Given their large populations those two states had the highest capacity to house travellers for 14 days while they undertook quarantine.

If the quarantine had sufficient infection control protocols in place and those protocols were followed, we wouldn't be in this mess.

IT was decisions made by Victoria and how they managed their HQ program that let the nation down.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Swanbourne?

 

[interestedoz1]

Yes

Given their large populations those two states had the highest capacity to house travellers for 14 days while they undertook quarantine.

If the quarantine had sufficient infection control protocols in place and those protocols were followed, we wouldn't be in this mess.

IT was decisions made by Victoria and how they managed their HQ program that let the nation down.

Yep and not wanting to absolve the vic Gov of its quarantine responsibility. But just from a pure risk management perspective, exposing your 2 largest populations and economies to the risk of outbreak is a big call. There are other international airports all over Australia that could have been used etc.

Anyway I guess it's a moot point for VIC now - can't see any repat flights for a long time.

 

[swanssince2002]

Man it really sucks... No wonder why people want Andrews to step down. They were so close but 1 selfish person decided to ruin it for everyone. Ugh.

 

[Sub_Zero]

season cancelled

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???

 

[parano1a]

season cancelled

Because a few Sydney suburbs are locked down?

 

[dont bowl there]

Because a few Sydney suburbs are locked down?

Old mate Cuzzy has wanted the season cancelled for a while now. It’s a weird obsession for someone that is on a football forum.