Analysis Coronavirus - The Impact III “WA - An Island within an Island”

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Rowan18

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Apparently AFL are asking us and freo to pick and choose where we want to play our home games. rofl looks like we wont even get a block of Perth games at the end of the season as we're playing 'home' games interstate. Would rather just pull out of the comp for the year tbh
I suspect this is Eddie playing politics and pressuring McGowan. The suggestion makes no sense. West coast would have to relocate to a new home base, then fly for away games and then back to "home". Surely you'd at least remove the ongoing travel if you have to relocate.

Our club likes to do things behind closed doors, but I dont see nisbett having a bar of this. Especially if there is a remote possibility of some crowds later in the season - no way he'd give up extra home games for that. If we have to play away, then we get a bunch of home games at the back end.
 
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McGowan has done a good job with the virus, but the bigger challenge will be the economy. If they cant get the economy pumping in a reasonable timeframe, no one will remember or care about the virus. I dont envy him.

The ray of sunlight is that they have given themselves the opportunity to open up restrictions earlier. They may get by playing the relativity card - "at least we're better than Vic/NZ/Europe/USA. Guess we'll see how that goes.

Much easier to get the economy pumping without the coronavirus than with it. People saying we should open thing up faster are ignoring the fact that people will still stay home en masse if there is community transmission. Maybe only 40% of the population, but it's still going to play havoc with the balls to the wall everything on the wire economy we've created over the last 30 years or so. You cannot force these people to go outside and spend money. The only way you get them out and spending again is if you give them a safe environment in which to do so.
 
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Things will go back to 'normal' but WA like the rest of Australia is still part of the wider global economy.

Tourism is worth about $6b a year with $2-3b of that coming from interstate and overseas visitors. Our resource and agriculture exports require customers at the other end. There should be some opportunities and some threats in that regard. What happens with international students depends on what their home countries permit. If we allow travel from say Singapore and Malaysia with mandatory 14 day isolation it means nothing if those countries keep their borders closed. Etc.

Long way to go, but can't wait for a pint.
 

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I suspect this is Eddie playing politics and pressuring McGowan. The suggestion makes no sense. West coast would have to relocate to a new home base, then fly for away games and then back to "home". Surely you'd at least remove the ongoing travel if you have to relocate.

Our club likes to do things behind closed doors, but I dont see nisbett having a bar of this. Especially if there is a remote possibility of some crowds later in the season - no way he'd give up extra home games for that. If we have to play away, then we get a bunch of home games at the back end.

Agree. I am concerned if the Eagles agree to play 6 games away to start the year, and then get the carpet yanked out from under them because of reasons later on despite the fact a perfectly fine WA or SA is waiting to be used.

There is a genuine chance that either WA or SA could be virus free within 4 weeks. If they keep the hard external borders, there is no reason we can't have community sport and crowds by late June or early July. The disease doesn't just magically appear out of the air to the 3.5 million people that have officially had it, it comes from other people who already have it. Having a subsection of people you know are clean (a household, an office, a town or a state) means that people within that subset should be able to go about business as normal, and I can see why McGowan wants to protect that.
 
Unlike Australia, NZ have come out and said they want to go the elimination route. Until the nations they open borders with have also gone the route of elimination or achieved it (which for the sake of the argument lets call it 3 weeks of no new cases and a week of no existing cases) I can't see them letting in people to fu** up what they have already done.
The Australian and New Zealand governments have commenced work on a Trans-Tasman bubble that would allow travel between the two countries without quarantining - as soon as it is deemed safe.

 

Rowan18

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The Australian and New Zealand governments have commenced work on a Trans-Tasman bubble that would allow travel between the two countries without quarantining - as soon as it is deemed safe.

I'm not sure how that is going to work if NZ wants elimination and we don't. I'd assume it cant happen until we also eliminate the virus.

NZ has an election later this year and I suspect their politicians are now starting to scramble to find ways to shore up the economy. Tourism is a big business for them.
 

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He won't.

People posting on an Australian rules football forum will of course have strong views on the resumption of the AFL season. But we are a tiny minority of the voting public. The more casual fans will completely understand it's just entertainment - it's not going to reduce unemployment rates or slow the spread of COVID-19. If games can be played with near-zero risk, then sure - but at this point there is no compelling case for exemptions for home and away travel.
Games can be played with near-zero risk. That's the point.

To this stage no AFL players have tested positive. One staff member has, but they were a returned overseas traveller and didn't leave quarantine so no contact with anyone.

Add to that the whole AFL will shut down if there is a positive test.

Surely all players and staff can be tested at regular intervals up to and post travel into states that are virus free (sa/wa). 3-4 days prior to travel, day of travel, day of return and 3 days after return. That would cover most of the incubation period, and whilst it doesn't guarantee anything it would be as safe as possible.

Obviously quarantine within the state also, but that is pretty obvious. As are charter flights, etc. WC/Freo would need to do the same travelling to other states.

Of course it is 6-weeks or so until the season is due to start, so a lot can still change.

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I'm not sure how that is going to work if NZ wants elimination and we don't. I'd assume it cant happen until we also eliminate the virus.

NZ has an election later this year and I suspect their politicians are now starting to scramble to find ways to shore up the economy. Tourism is a big business for them.
It depends on your definition of elimination. Ardern defines elimination as no community transmission and she says NZ has achieved that, despite there still being active cases here.

Covid 19 coronavirus: PM Jacinda Ardern says virus is 'currently eliminated' as NZ emerges from level 4

Edit: NZ came out of level 4 lockdown over a week ago, so in Ardern's eyes the virus was 'eliminated' some time ago. You're right that tourism in NZ is hugely important to the economy. Winston Peters (deputy PM) wants the trans-Tasman bubble up and running in time for the ski season. :rolleyes:
 
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ziad

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It depends on your definition of elimination. Ardern defines elimination as no community transmission and she says NZ has achieved that, despite there still being active cases here.

Covid 19 coronavirus: PM Jacinda Ardern says virus is 'currently eliminated' as NZ emerges from level 4

Edit: NZ came out of level 4 lockdown over a week ago, so in Ardern's eyes the virus was 'eliminated' some time ago. You're right that tourism in NZ is hugely important to the economy. Winston Peters (deputy PM) wants the trans-Tasman bubble up and running in time for the ski season. :rolleyes:
So they are now at Vic levels
 

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Rowan18

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It depends on your definition of elimination. Ardern defines elimination as no community transmission and she says NZ has achieved that, despite there still being active cases here.

Covid 19 coronavirus: PM Jacinda Ardern says virus is 'currently eliminated' as NZ emerges from level 4

Edit: NZ came out of level 4 lockdown over a week ago, so in Ardern's eyes the virus was 'eliminated' some time ago. You're right that tourism in NZ is hugely important to the economy. Winston Peters (deputy PM) wants the trans-Tasman bubble up and running in time for the ski season. :rolleyes:
Thanks, I didn't realise that. Typical politicians, mincing words but actually describing the same things.
 

ziad

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I'm not sure how that is going to work if NZ wants elimination and we don't. I'd assume it cant happen until we also eliminate the virus.

NZ has an election later this year and I suspect their politicians are now starting to scramble to find ways to shore up the economy. Tourism is a big business for them.
It can not be eliminated so its all semantics
NZ has emerged from their level 4 to leve 3 which is is equivelant to where Vic is. Their death rate is the same as ours despite the extra hurt - infection rates have been higher than ours.
 
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Hope Simmo shows that to the team.
Vic tragics will still refuse to believe they have any sort of advantage. The bubble they live in would be able to survive a nuclear blast.

“Eagles and Dockers might have to relocate to Victoria” despite WA having had 0 cases for the past week and Vic copping another 14 today. If West Coast and Freo can’t play out of their own home state the season cannot go ahead, what’s the point? That means the AFL is saying that we can’t win the flag but that’s okay because we have everyone’s favourite teams Richmond and Collingwood to bring footy back to our televisions.

******* spare me.
 

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So giving WA teams the slightest advantage by being able to train in groups of ten because of different state govt restrictions is not on but putting WA teams at a massive disadvantage because of different state govt restrictions is just fine and stop your whinging.
I'd be telling them to "stick it up your arse, we'll see you next year". The lack of awareness of the hypocrisy and double standards is astounding even by AFL standards.
 

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So giving WA teams the slightest advantage by being able to train in groups of ten because of different state govt restrictions is not on but putting WA teams at a massive disadvantage because of different state govt restrictions is just fine and stop your whinging.
I'd be telling them to "stick it up your arse, we'll see you next year". The lack of awareness of the hypocrisy and double standards is astounding even by AFL standards.
Good idea, except they probably can't tell them to stick it. Would be under contract and agreements to play when and where Vlad tells them to. The AFL desperately needs the TV money. Could risk being sued and/or kicked out of the competition if we did that.
 

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Good idea, except they probably can't tell them to stick it. Would be under contract and agreements to play when and where Vlad tells them to. The AFL desperately needs the TV money. Could risk being sued and/or kicked out of the competition if we did that.
Yeah I know but we need to apply pressure to ensure we are not massively disadvantaged, I don't really expect Nissy to ring up Gil and tell him to stick it up his arse, haha, would be awesome if he did though instead of getting bent over every time.
 
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