News Coronavirus Thread

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Bidet searches up by 350% since the Bog roll crisis hit Australia.

The great existential crisis has finally arrived.

This is a glorious time!

 

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[Val Keating]

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That makes more sense. If people can make a dollar off it then I get it. I was under the impression that China’s borders were closed, but I spose there’s always a back door. Pun intended

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

Shits got real

 

[GarnerSmash]

Shits got real

Part of me hopes that coronavirus mutates. We could do with some serious culling.

 

[Gasometer]

Shits got real

Fair enough too.

63 cases out of 25 million is serious business atm

 

[Orange Peanut]

I have a relative in Asia dealing with a chronic auto immune disease. As much as it's a potential bad cold for most of us, there is a genuine risk of death for many many more if they can't avoid contracting it.

 

[giantroo]

Just the flu...

 

[Val Keating]

Worth a watch or listen. Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. Most of the conversation is about Coronavirus

 

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[muttley45]

The grooming of the public for the impending Coronavirus pandemic epitomised by how many times the Chief Medical Officer used the word "inevitable" in his presser yesterday ?

 

[King Corey]

Memo to China: in future probably let that pangolin or bat just go about its business.

Oh and for those working at the markets - maybe clean the blood off your chopping board between dicing up endangered species.

 

[Val Keating]

The grooming of the public for the impending Coronavirus pandemic epitomised by how many times the Chief Medical Officer used the word "inevitable" in his presser yesterday ?

Just listening to Michael Osterholm, he thinks it is inevitable. He thinks it’s going to be 10X worse then a bad flue year. The scary thing is people are contagious before they show any symptoms.

 

[Hojuman]

Memo to China: in future probably let that pangolin or bat just go about its business.

Oh and for those working at the markets - maybe clean the blood off your chopping board between dicing up endangered species.

Won't stop unfortunately

 

[Val Keating]

Memo to China: in future probably let that pangolin or bat just go about its business.

Oh and for those working at the markets - maybe clean the blood off your chopping board between dicing up endangered species.

Or at least kill and cook them, don’t eat them live

 

[giantroo]

Travel ban to and from Italy now

 

[King Corey]

Won't stop unfortunately

Creation and denial of pandemics, generating demand for poaching so some limpdicks can placebo up a boner - some great stuff coming out of the "Communist" Republic in recent decades.

I'm sure damning condemnation from the rest of the world is being drafted up as we speak.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Worth a watch or listen. Michael Osterholm is an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology. Most of the conversation is about Coronavirus

 

[ferball]

Travel ban to and from Italy now

It's a bit ****en late.

My mum is in her mid 70s. One of my kids has potential vulnerabilities to this, and my lungs are ****ed.

I haven't smoked for nearly a decade and rarely smoke weed, I use a vape mostly which doesn't shred your lungs like sandblasting tho the hash oil that evaporates off the plant matter probably coats them (that might help) but I got hammered by bushfire smoke a few times this season, actually physically reeling and struggling for oxygen cos of minor wind changes and unsettled air movement. Then went home to an ambient smoke level higher than pubs in the 90s (which is when I started). It's been noticeable since but seems to be improving.

So there are actual probabilities (dunno what they are, hopefully very low) that myself and people I care about are at real risk from this bug.

If the bloke I watched the footy with the other day gets it he could be in trouble too.

And they just shut two unis on either side of me (scu @ Lismore and GC) cos someone attended workshops there then went back to the Phillipines and tested positive.

On the plus side neighbours are miles away, bush living means we have stuff to get us thru long periods of time anyway and there are no neighbours within a km ... so we isolate ourselves now and are still clean we should be okay.

I'm seriously thinking of doing it.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

It's a bit fu**en late.

My mum is in her mid 70s. One of my kids has potential vulnerabilities to this, and my lungs are f’ed.

I haven't smoked for nearly a decade and rarely smoke weed, I use a vape mostly which doesn't shred your lungs like sandblasting tho the hash oil that evaporates off the plant matter probably coats them (that might help) but I got hammered by bushfire smoke a few times this season, actually physically reeling and struggling for oxygen cos of minor wind changes and unsettled air movement. Then went home to an ambient smoke level higher than pubs in the 90s (which is when I started). It's been noticeable since but seems to be improving.

So there are actual probabilities (dunno what they are, hopefully very low) that myself and people I care about are at real risk from this bug.

If the bloke I watched the footy with the other day gets it he could be in trouble too.

And they just shut two unis on either side of me (scu @ Lismore and GC) cos someone attended workshops there then went back to the Phillipines and tested positive.

On the plus side neighbours are miles away, bush living means we have stuff to get us thru long periods of time anyway and there is no neighbours within a km so we isolate ourselves now and are clean we should be okay.

I'm seriously thinking of doing it.

Doing what, mate?

 

[Val Keating]

Who’s the guest?

 

[ferball]

Doing what, mate?

Just isolating my family now and seeing what plays out. My kids go to school and pre school. It's local, bush schools, a few kids and they all live round here.

It sounds like I'm panicking but I'm not. I'm just wondering what the risk management process here is.

Up until I heard this thing about SCU I didn't really think about potential danger to me or the missus and kids from this virus. What was the pathway or vectors it would take to impact me? None that I can find and I'm good at that sort of thing. Now I can see a very obvious one. I have a friend lecturing at SCU who lives nearby, one of a few SCU staff out here. His kids go to different schools. He's the sort of person who knows everything and everyone - one of those social nodes. He also lectures in tourism among other things has plenty of Chinese students now that I think about it. All of us use he same few local amenities at times.

If this carrier from the Phillipines infected people here at SCU there is a higher than average chance he'd be exposed to them imo. But there are a few SCU staff out this way anyway and it's a social community.

I can see an obvious potential person to person pathways all the way to that infected tourist.

They might also have caught the bug here. We can't write that off because it has asymptomatic transmission and that period is at least 14 days.

So like I said I can see a potential pathway for the bug to impact my family that isn't completely far fetched. It's reasonable and if there are longer asymptomatic periods where carriers are infectious it's potentially a higher probability than we are assuming.

But isolating ourselves is really disruptive and potentially unnecessary.

Also I may be overreacting but at the same time the consequences of a worse case scenario for me and my family (ie one of us getting infected) could be really bad. So maybe being overly cautious in this situation is warranted.

I wasn't thinking about this till I heard about the Uni closing this morning.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Who’s the guest?

Nicholas Christakis - sociologist and physician known for his research on social networks and on the socioeconomic, biosocial, and evolutionary determinants of behavior, health, and longevity.

Pertty much mirroring Rogan's guest in that this is coming hard for the US and potentially will kill upwards of 600,000 people there, and conservatively 60,000 minimum. What is different is that Rogan's guest has data from yesterday/today which indicated that the virus can be spread before the carrier becomes symptomatic, which is very worrying. If people don't minimise social contact then this will get out of control fairly quickly.

 

[Val Keating]

Nicholas Christakis - sociologist and physician known for his research on social networks and on the socioeconomic, biosocial, and evolutionary determinants of behavior, health, and longevity.

Pertty much mirroring Rogan's guest in that this is coming hard for the US and potentially will kill upwards of 600,000 people there, and conservatively 60,000 minimum. What is different is that Rogan's guest has data from yesterday/today which indicated that the virus can be spread without the carrier being symptomatic, which is very worrying. If people don't minimise social contact then this will get out of control fairly quickly.

I’ll give it a listen. Don’t mind Sam Harris.

Another thing that came out of the podcast with Rogan, is that Michael Osterholm wrote a book a few years back called "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Deadly Germs" there’s a chapter in there predicting a coronavirus coming out of China because of those markets.