News Coronavirus Thread

[TennisPlayerAndy]

This country is cooked.

Zero critical thinking.

 

[ferball]

I'm just glad the virus isn't immune to bullets.

 

[Ry009]

Zero critical thinking.

It's amazing how malleable the American population is.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

It's amazing how malleable the American population is.

They’re indoctrinated into that world from such a young age, they never stand a chance.



This says it all.

 

[Snake_Baker]

This is a tad blinkered folks.

Is it some subconscious Trump associated thing?

 

[the big lebowski]

They’re indoctrinated into that world from such a young age, they never stand a chance.



This says it all.

I think I’ve watched season one of true detective at least 20 times. What a show.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

What do you guys make of the coding being used to report cause of death as covid-19?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

...the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.

COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.

So if they assume that coronavirus 'contributed' to the death, it is listed as covid-19?

I'm no medicine-talking guy, can one of the many apparent experts in this area help me out? Am I reading this wrong?

 

[Snake_Baker]

It just looks like record keeping to me.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

They’re indoctrinated into that world from such a young age, they never stand a chance.



This says it all.

It’s too diverse a country to make sweeping statements, but the religious aspect puts them on a similar platform to some of countries they think have needed regime change.

But there’s another part of their public political character that is usually a sideshow but now has tangible impacts around the world. The conspiratorial eye that sees outside threat in anything. Knowledge, modernity, PC, vaccine, Soros, the media.

There are large swathes of the US that are just, I don’t know, completely ****ed.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

It’s too diverse a country to make sweeping statements, but the religious aspect puts them on a similar platform to some of countries they think have needed regime change.

But there’s another part of their public political character that is usually a sideshow but now has tangible impacts around the world. The conspiratorial eye that sees outside threat in anything. Knowledge, modernity, PC, vaccine, Soros, the media.

There are large swathes of the US that are just, I don’t know, completely f’ed.

My comments were purely around those who watch and attend televangelist conventions.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

It just looks like record keeping to me.

Yeah and the issue is that the CDC appears to be telling the record keepers 'if some dude dies, and you assume coronavirus may have been involved somehow, then list it as a coronavirus death'.

If this is the case, then the problems which follow are obvious, are they not?

Might explain why the median age of 'death from coronavirus' in Australia is 79 ffs.

 

[Caracas]

This country is cooked.

While everything about this is anathema to me, I can’t help but think that it’s the basis of practically every inspirational movie since the dawn of time from “It’s a wonderful world” to “The Mighty Ducks”. Just saying. It’s still wrongheaded, though.


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[Tectonic]

What do you guys make of the coding being used to report cause of death as covid-19?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

...the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.

COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.

So if they assume that coronavirus 'contributed' to the death, it is listed as covid-19?

I'm no medicine-talking guy, can one of the many apparent experts in this area help me out? Am I reading this wrong?

If someone's been confirmed sick with it and dies with it that would perhaps otherwise not have died then covid will be listed as a cause of death.

On the other hand the +/- 200 people reported dead in their apartments daily in NYC (up from 25 or so a day) who have not been confirmed to have it will have 'unknown' as cause of death, so swings and roundabouts.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

While everything about this is anathema to me, I can’t help but think that it’s the basis of practically every inspirational movie since the dawn of time from “It’s a wonderful world” to “The Mighty Ducks”. Just saying. It’s still wrongheaded, though.


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The Flying V. The knuckle puck. Goldberg, as a concept. Loved it all.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

If someone's been confirmed sick with it and dies with it that would perhaps otherwise not have died then covid will be listed as a cause of death.

On the other hand the +/- 200 people reported dead in their apartments daily in NYC (up from 25 or so a day) who have not been confirmed to have it will have 'unknown' as cause of death, so swings and roundabouts.

What is your source for this claim?

 

[Tectonic]

Scores of ‘probable’ coronavirus deaths not counted in NYC tally

Dozens — if not hundreds — of coronavirus deaths in New York City will not be included in the Big Apple’s grim tally, because victims died at home without being tested, The Post has learned. …

nypost.com

The FDNY has recorded as many as 200 daily deaths at home in recent weeks, far more than the average 25 deaths at home before the pandemic.

NY, NJ Set Death Toll Records for 2nd Straight Day; New Social Distancing Orders Issued

New York and New Jersey both saw their daily death tolls spike to new records Wednesday for the second day in a row, while New York City’s coronavirus toll surged well past 4,500 — more than the number killed on 9/11. According to Johns Hopkins data, the state of New York, with nearly 150,000...

www.nbcnewyork.com

NYC Is Taking Hundreds of Body Bags Out of Houses—and Soon They Will Be Counted

New York City officials say they will begin to report those who’ve died in their homes from suspected coronavirus complications without an official lab diagnosis.

www.thedailybeast.com

Staggering Surge Of NYers Dying In Their Homes Suggests City Is Undercounting Coronavirus Fatalities

Deaths at home hit record numbers, but they’re not all counted in the official coronavirus toll.

gothamist.com

LMGTFY

For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than search it for themselves.

lmgtfy.com

 

[Tectonic]

Scores of ‘probable’ coronavirus deaths not counted in NYC tally

Dozens — if not hundreds — of coronavirus deaths in New York City will not be included in the Big Apple’s grim tally, because victims died at home without being tested, The Post has learned. …

nypost.com

The FDNY has recorded as many as 200 daily deaths at home in recent weeks, far more than the average 25 deaths at home before the pandemic.

NY, NJ Set Death Toll Records for 2nd Straight Day; New Social Distancing Orders Issued

New York and New Jersey both saw their daily death tolls spike to new records Wednesday for the second day in a row, while New York City’s coronavirus toll surged well past 4,500 — more than the number killed on 9/11. According to Johns Hopkins data, the state of New York, with nearly 150,000...

www.nbcnewyork.com

NYC Is Taking Hundreds of Body Bags Out of Houses—and Soon They Will Be Counted

New York City officials say they will begin to report those who’ve died in their homes from suspected coronavirus complications without an official lab diagnosis.

www.thedailybeast.com

Staggering Surge Of NYers Dying In Their Homes Suggests City Is Undercounting Coronavirus Fatalities

Deaths at home hit record numbers, but they’re not all counted in the official coronavirus toll.

gothamist.com

LMGTFY

For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than search it for themselves.

lmgtfy.com

Sorry mouncey2franklin forgot to tag you in this.
It's all very very easy to find, I left that last link there for you in case those sources don't satisfy.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Sorry mouncey2franklin forgot to tag you in this.
It's all very very easy to find, I left that last link there for you in case those sources don't satisfy.

Where in any of those does it say 200 up from 25?

Edit: In the last article they write this:

But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.

...

That’s because the ME’s office is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as “probable.”

So these would be included in the coronavirus death count, if I am reading the CDC advisory correctly.

 

[Tectonic]

Where in any of those does it say 200 up from 25?

You can read right?

 

[Tectonic]

Where in any of those does it say 200 up from 25?

Edit: In the last article they write this:

But another 200 city residents are now dying at home each day, compared to 20 to 25 such deaths before the pandemic, said Aja Worthy-Davis, a spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office. And an untold number of them are unconfirmed.

...

That’s because the ME’s office is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as “probable.”

So these would be included in the coronavirus death count, if I am reading the CDC advisory correctly.

...2 paragraphs later

But the health department does not include that number in the official count unless it is confirmed, a spokesman said.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

The Flying V. The knuckle puck. Goldberg, as a concept. Loved it all.

Have you seen Goldberg lately?

Didn’t take his demotion at the hands of Julie ‘The Cat’ Gaffney well at all.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

...2 paragraphs later

But the health department does not include that number in the official count unless it is confirmed, a spokesman said.

So you are suggesting that the NY health department is going against the CDC's advisory?

Or they have a separate 'official count' to what we see on TV?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Have you seen Goldberg lately?

Didn’t take his demotion at the hands of Julie ‘The Cat’ Gaffney well at all.

Wow, that Icelandic team must be pissing themselves laughing at him now.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Wow, that Icelandic team must be pissing themselves laughing at him now.

Crack, crack, crack.....

 

[Tectonic]

So you are suggesting that the NY health department is going against the CDC's advisory?

Or they have a separate 'official count' to what we see on TV?

I'm saying that as in those articles until recently there has been a severe underreporting of deaths which is probably why this has been enacted.

Anyway this is probably what you're alluding to- a conspiracy to pump up fatalities. Feel free to believe whatever you want but take this with you

Social Media Posts Make Baseless Claim on COVID-19 Death Toll - FactCheck.org

Viral posts wrongly suggest that the COVID-19 death toll is exaggerated because "the state" has instructed that "anyone who didnt die by a gun shot wound or car accident" be listed as a coronavirus victim. Experts say there is no such default classification -- and that the U.S. death count is...

www.factcheck.org