News Coronavirus Thread

[GarnerSmash]

I’ll give it a listen. Don’t mind Sam Harris.

Another thing that came out of the podcast with Rogan, is that Michael Osterholm wrote a book a few years back called "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Deadly Germs" there’s a chapter in there predicting a coronavirus coming out of China because of those markets.

Dean Koontz did something similar. I think this has always been the potential hot spot of most concern. Dense population, live and varied animals kept and butchered in close proximity, poor hygiene = catastrophe at some point. Odds are that this will not be the last, nor the most deadly virus to come from that part of the world.

 

[ferball]

Nicholas Christakis - sociologist and physician known for his research on social networks and on the socioeconomic, biosocial, and evolutionary determinants of behavior, health, and longevity.

Pertty much mirroring Rogan's guest in that this is coming hard for the US and potentially will kill upwards of 600,000 people there, and conservatively 60,000 minimum. What is different is that Rogan's guest has data from yesterday/today which indicated that the virus can be spread before the carrier becomes symptomatic, which is very worrying. If people don't minimise social contact then this will get out of control fairly quickly.

The suggestion that asymptomatic transmission is happening has been around for a while.

This is why I'm a little more worried than I might otherwise be.

 

[GarnerSmash]

The suggestion that asymptomatic transmission is happening has been around for a while.

This is why I'm a little more worried than I might otherwise be.

Yeah, not sure if you listened to the Rogan one, but a study of 9 factory workers in Germany who were potentially exposed was undertaken where they agreed to be tracked regularly, with samples taken, post potential exposure. They were found to be massively virulent, far more than normal flu, but felt fine...

 

[ferball]

Yeah, not sure if you listened to the Rogan one, but a study of 9 factory workers in Germany who were potentially exposed was undertaken where they greed to be tracked regularly, with samples taken, post potential exposure. They were found to be massively virulent, far more than normal flu, but felt fine...

No I haven't listened to either of them.

See what you just typed suggests to me that there is a high likelihood of infection in this area, or adjacent to it right now.

If people are transmitting it asymptomatically to other people who are transmitting it asymptomatically then it's long gone and nothing will stop it.

On the other hand...

Six hundred thousand people is less than 0.02% of the US population isn't it? That's still 45000 people or more here. And at least 4500 on the same minimal conservative estimate so somewhere in between.

A lot of people I guess. If it's out.

Really we should all probably be acting as if it's in the community based on that German study right now.

 

[GarnerSmash]

No I haven't listened to either of them.

See what you just typed suggests to me that there is a high likelihood of infection in this area, or adjacent to it right now.

If people are transmitting it asymptomatically to other people who are transmitting it asymptomatically then it's long gone and nothing will stop it.

On the other hand...

Six hundred thousand people is less than 0.02% of the US population isn't it? That's still 45000 people or more here. And at least 4500 on the same minimal conservative estimate so somewhere in between.

A lot of people I guess. If it's out.

Really we should all probably be acting as if it's in the community based on that German study right now.

Apologies, I was inaccurately reflecting what he had said. When these 9 stated feeling symptoms they went in and were tested straight away. At that point they were massively infectious, sometimes up to more than 10,000 times more than SARS. These 9 had not yet started coughing.

 

[CURVE]

No cases in Canberra. Don't understand the fuss.

Why Canberra is my No.1 spot to see out the corona-pocalypse

 

[ferball]

Turns out he is a staff member at SCU not a tourist, maybe got it at home over summer. Had symptoms they have now passed.

 

[ferball]

Apologies, I was inaccurately reflecting what he had said. When these 9 stated feeling symptoms they went in and were tested straight away. At that point they were massively infectious, sometimes up to more than 10,000 times more than SARS. These 9 had not yet started coughing.

So how were they infectious if they hadn't started coughing?

 

[Val Keating]

So how were they infectious if they hadn't started coughing?

Because of the amount found in their saliva.

 

[Val Keating]

They also spoke about Chronic wasting disease potentially being able to jump from Deer to humans one day, now that’s scary because that has 100% mortality rate.

 

[ferball]

They also spoke about Chronic wasting disease potentially being able to jump from Deer to humans one day, now that’s scary because that has 100% mortality rate.

The amount of shit that can **** you up... I have a mate who has mma.

Mammalian Meat Allergy.

Comes from ticks. He can't eat meat atm. Hasn't been able to for years. It makes him physically ill.

Sometimes gets away with fish or chicken. He may never be able to again.

Another mate got Barma Forrest virus and was ****ed for ages. Never really recovered.

 

[ferball]

Because of the amount found in their saliva.

Okay. So that means pre symptomatic people are probably more likely to infect the immediate environment - ie surfaces than thru direct p2p transmission.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Okay. So that means pre symptomatic people are probably more likely to infect the immediate environment - ie surfaces than thru direct p2p transmission.

Handshaking, hugs, kissing, sneeze, runny nose ect...

 

[andana]

Handshaking, hugs, kissing, sneeze, runny nose ect...

Hi fives after scoring

 

[ferball]

Handshaking, hugs, kissing, sneeze, runny nose ect...

Oh yeah. I get that. But also constant contact with surfaces. It can last a few days on untreated surfaces in ideal circumstances can't it?

My kids.. The other day one of the girls was licking a hand railing while they were stuffing about.

 

[giantroo]

Arsenal postpone game after Covid-19 fears

Manchester City match postponed

Premier League postpone our match with Manchester City on Wednesday night as precautionary measure

www.arsenal.com

 

[ferball]

This seems interesting.

 

[Hojuman]

How handy would a Fairfield infectious Diseases hospital be now Mr. Kennett ?

 

[Hojuman]

Places like Nauru, Kiribati & Tuvalu in trouble if the virus hits. Health care there very basic and alotta heart, kidney disease there amongst the older population

 

[giantroo]

Officially a Pandemic

 

[giantroo]

 

[Snake_Baker]

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The irony being that AFL players WILL actually come in to close enough contact to be infected by other players.

 

[giantroo]

Now Juventus centre-back Daniele Rugani tests positive for Coronavirus.

 

[Val Keating]

Now Juventus centre-back Daniele Rugani tests positive for Coronavirus.

Pretty sure they’re supposed to play PSG next week. Can’t see that happening now.

 

[King Corey]

The irony being that AFL players WILL actually come in to close enough contact to be infected by other players.

Heppell should be ok.