News Coronavirus Thread

[B4Bear]

And Alan Jones doubles down on yesterday's idiocy.

How is that old campaigner still on the air. Such a shame that his rusted on's are the demographic that are at most risk.

 

[krakouers]

And Alan Jones doubles down on yesterday's idiocy.

How is that old campaigner still on the air. Such a shame that his rusted on's are the demographic that are at most risk.

Maybe that’s a positive?

 

[Val Keating]

That was a good address..

Set out a clear path of action, with some pretty comprehensive detail. Enjoyed the whack on the panic shoppers hah. Glad they're not going the complete shutdown, gives a lot of business a better chance at survival.

The podcast I shared a few weeks ago with Michael Osterholm outlined why it’s so important to keep schools going. The highest number of working mums are nurses and if they close schools the hospitals will be short staffed, would be disastrous

 

[Snake_Baker]

The podcast I shared a few weeks ago with Michael Osterholm outlined why it’s so important to keep schools going. The highest number of working mums are nurses and if they close schools the hospitals will be short staffed, would be disastrous

There's no great issue with the young & healthy all getting infected and becoming immune to the virus, thereby ceasing to be sources for replication (vectors) and further infections. In fact, that is a good thing.

 

[Del191229]

So a state government can’t make the call unless the federal government does?

State governments can and will.

 

[Del191229]

I don’t think there is much doubt he will be home for Easter. Really interesting case - I’m somewhat torn on what I think but my legal friends are all of the opinion the conviction was wrong. I’m a where theres smoke theres fire person generally but just don’t know what to think on this.

This isn't the time and place for it, but he's not coming come and a decision won't be made before East.

My legal friends (who aren't old white men, but partners in law firms) were unsure he'd get convicted, but once he had, we're sure the verdict would be upheld. They've been right so far.

Anyway, let's discuss this elsewhere.

 

[Star]

A new ban on non-essential gatherings of more than 100 people indoors is effective immediately.

I'm assuming Crown Casino is exempt. Again?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Folks should all go in and get their flu shots asap this year.

 

[arden station]

If you look at raw numbers, they are testing positive at a high percentage of their cohort.

They shouldn't get special treatment but inevitable they will.

Yep it's hardly surprising and as you highlight not the main point here - which is that a particular group is significantly overrepresented. Thanks because I'm really struggling to make my point here so I'll try a different tack.

3 of roughly 900 (1 in 300) Australian politicians have Covid19 yet apparently just 450 of 25,000,000 (1 in 56,000) Australians have it. If 1 in 300 Australians had it, 83,000 would be infected. Now I'm sure a qualified statistician here will dismiss the pollies group as being too small a sample size and people will argue that they spend -or spent - their whole life pressing flesh but I'm just saying it's a little concerning.

 

[krakouers]

CH7: Stop Hoarding

also CH7: Shelves are bare for essentials

 

[Hojuman]

And Alan Jones doubles down on yesterday's idiocy.

How is that old campaigner still on the air. Such a shame that his rusted on's are the demographic that are at most risk.

What he say B4B ?

 

[Del191229]

Folks should all go in and get their flu shots asap this year.

Completely.

 

[Del191229]

What he say B4B ?

He said what Snake had been saying prior to his Damascene conversion - all media hysteria.

 

[Del191229]

Yep it's hardly surprising and as you highlight not the main point here - which is that a particular group is significantly overrepresented. Thanks because I'm really struggling to make my point here so I'll try a different tack.

3 of roughly 900 (1 in 300) Australian politicians have Covid19 yet apparently just 450 of 25,000,000 (1 in 56,000) Australians have it. If 1 in 300 Australians had it, 83,000 would be infected. Now I'm sure a qualified statistician here will dismiss the pollies group as being too small a sample size and people will argue that they spend -or spent - their whole life pressing flesh but I'm just saying it's a little concerning.

Yep. It is clear that Dutton is the superspreader in their cohort lol.

 

[Val Keating]

There's no great issue with the young & healthy all getting infected and becoming immune to the virus, thereby ceasing to be sources for replication (vectors) and further infections. In fact, that is a good thing.

Agree. Total shutdown would be counterintuitive at this stage.

 

[Val Keating]

I just heard one of my cousins tested positive. Glad I haven’t seen her ages

 

[Ether]

Confirmed as cancelled.

Premiers baby!!!!

Time to hit the beers, we've bought a slab of Corona to mark the occasion.

I was considering buying a slab of Corona to take to a party on the weekend but thought "is it really worth one average gag to have to drink a slab of shite beer?"

 

[giantroo]

I had a clause in Wayne Carey’s contract which was a first “of the club folds, merges or the competition is stopped for any reason the Club and AFL must pay Wayne out 100% and out him on a new deal worth double”

- Ricky Nixon

 

[Snake_Baker]

Agree. Total shutdown would be counterintuitive at this stage.

Well, there's two ways of looking at it, due to the country's geographic isolation.

You could employ total shutdown of the country whilst isolating infected cases, and ceasing immigration in to the country in order to sterilize the entire continent, or you could isolate the elderly and vulnerable whilst the rest of the nation goes about it's usual business, gets infected and wipes it out with normal immune response, AND ALSO monitor future immigration.

At the moment no one comes in without 14 days isolation and that is a good policy.

 

[Del191229]

And Alan Jones doubles down on yesterday's idiocy.

How is that old campaigner still on the air. Such a shame that his rusted on's are the demographic that are at most risk.

I've had to have dealings with Jones over the last few months for work. Can confirm what he says on air bears little to no resemblance to reality, it is literally just the ramblings of a bigoted old man who has a grudge against the world and thinks he's a victim despite being enormously wealthy and privileged.

 

[Moti]

Agree. Total shutdown would be counterintuitive at this stage.

We are also not Italy, or Spain or Iran. We live differently, and we interact differently. Just working from home and removing mass movement in the CBD will reduce infection rates as it has actually been white collar contact in many regards and travellers that have spread the virus.

I went to Puerto Rico Feb 1 and I couldn't get hand sanitiser for the trip. We have been on alert for a while and subtle changes have been made which have helped. This hasn't crept up on us and this is why it hasn't hit us in the same timeline. The US infections have been the one area where we were caught a little I think, and that has been the nexus for the latest group.

 

[Caracas]

I wonder if there is any correlation between sever cases and countries that do or don't have high levels of annual flu jabs.
Maybe putting the body into fight mode helps against a new virus in which the body reacts to in a similar way.
There must be a reason for this disparity between say Germany and France with there similar numbers of cases but vastly different number of deaths
(assuming similar levels of care)

My original assumption was that it was their superior testing. However, South Korea has, supposedly, a great testing setup. Yet, their death rate is almost 4 times Germany’s. Germany does seem to be turning up new cases even faster than South Korea. That’s impressive.


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[DesertRoo]

We are also not Italy, or Spain or Iran. We live differently, and we interact differently. Just working from home and removing mass movement in the CBD will reduce infection rates as it has actually been white collar contact in many regards and travellers that have spread the virus.

I went to Puerto Rico Feb 1 and I couldn't get hand sanitiser for the trip. We have been on alert for a while and subtle changes have been made which have helped. This hasn't crept up on us and this is why it hasn't hit us in the same timeline. The US infections have been the one area where we were caught a little I think, and that has been the nexus for the latest group.

I love people comparing Northern Italy and Spain to Australia..


if you’ve travelled there, lovely places, but you can see why would disease spread so quickly.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Folks should all go in and get their flu shots asap this year.

I just contacted my clinic and all of the over 65 shots have arrived and the good news is that they have all flocked in to get them. The batch of vaccine for the rest of us arrives next week so I'll be there. The vaccines have been rushed in to the medical system earlier this year, and non vaccinated folks are going to be exluded from visiting the elderly in retirement homes & hospitals after May 1, so get on top of it folks.

 

[Snake_Baker]

My original assumption was that it was their superior testing. However, South Korea has, supposedly, a great testing setup. Yet, their death rate is almost 4 times Germany’s. Germany does seem to be turning up new cases even faster than South Korea. That’s impressive.

There's a difference between identification, treatment and avoidance mate.

The Germans are arsekickers at everything when they set their minds to it. Arguably the greatest technological society on earth.