I have no idea. Just wait a day and some tofu warrior will add even more letters.
Bob Brown syndrome. I remember the clown after an election stating gay marriage was the most serious issue facing Australia.
Mirror image of Cory.
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I have no idea. Just wait a day and some tofu warrior will add even more letters.
Bob Brown syndrome. I remember the clown after an election stating gay marriage was the most serious issue facing Australia.
Mirror image of Cory.
Oh, come on. He's not Eric Abetz. He's just a run of the mill super-conservative who genuinely believes the shite he spouts. Eric is evil, knows it, and is proud of it. Absolute personification of a comic book villan.
Yeah Bernardi is just a moron, not an evil genius
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Some of the crazy fundamentalist Christian right wingers especially in America are still running on the same or similar tickets. Just because it isn't as widespread as Islam doesn't mean it doesn't still exist in Christianity. They are every bit the Christian version of the Taliban and if given a chance would implement a theocratic state like Saudi Arabia in a heartbeat.
Obviously the West were "enlightened" and the secularists in the West drowned out the crazies on the right. Islam needs to go through the same thing.
Life outside the tent ain't so grand for Cory
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...e-cory-bernardi-accuses-media-of-ignoring-him
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...e-cory-bernardi-accuses-media-of-ignoring-him
Sorry, I can't find any difference between the two.
How do Christians justify supporting cuts to social services and oppressing homosexuals?
That's not very Christian at all.
To be fair I guess the marginalizing homosexual part is. But I don't know what book these people are reading as they're shunning the direct message of their own commandments. Compromising on them completely preferencing their own greed and self interest.
How do they think disobeying these commandments gets them into Angel heaven? I know the bible instructs us to love thy neighbour and not view them in disgust as far as poverty goes, but are they supposed to embrace gays as equals like their commandments say so? Or stone them to death like their leviticus 6:66 thingy says so? Which one do you follow?
That's not very Christian at all.
To be fair I guess the marginalizing homosexual part is. But I don't know what book these people are reading as they're shunning the direct message of their own commandments. Compromising on them completely preferencing their own greed and self interest.
How do they think disobeying these commandments gets them into Angel heaven? I know the bible instructs us to love thy neighbour and not view them in disgust as far as poverty goes, but are they supposed to embrace gays as equals like their commandments say so? Or stone them to death like their leviticus 6:66 thingy says so? Which one do you follow?
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If we really want to see how revolting the hypocrisy of some of these Christians is, look no further than Tony Abbott because if we were to look at what the Pope has been saying since he became the supreme leader, then Tones and his mates are going to hell, no ifs, no buts, straight to hell!
Considering the bible tells them to stone the gays, you should be thankful they arent very christian.
Tge furst part can be waved away by saying that Jesus told us to be charitable, but didnt explicitly say the state should do it and it welfare/charity should be a personal action. Or some such bullshit.
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American prosperity theology, of course! According to them, the rich are blessed by God whereas the poor obviously did something to incur God's wrath.
Completely un-biblical of course*, but who gives a damn? Feeling better than them damn wretched poor people is more important!
*I do wonder how this brand of Christian would interpret the parable where Jesus claimed a poor old lady gave more to a church than a bunch of rich men did, despite only giving one coin?
Also his comments about how rich people find it hard to go to heaven.
It was the protestant reformation that brought it about. Lets not confuse Catholic absolutism with Protestant enlightenment.
NB how do you expect Islam to undergo similar when people in the west are happy to silence dissent via blasphemy laws?
Good luck trying to be an Islamic Luther in the UK or Australia.
Where does JC ever support the notion of the state rather than the individual providing welfare to others?
Oppressing homosexuality - wrong religion old bean.
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This one needs more explanation. Even you cant believe that surely.
In the 10 commandments and many sections in the bible? You won't find a quote on economic welfare in the bible. But you'll find crap like "love thy neighbour" and other direct orders along the lines of charity. Where in the world anywhere does the bible suggest to be anti-charitable?
Welfare is currently existant. Yet conservatives are the ones making the movements attack these people in an attempt to cut them off which results in suffering and further disadvantage. People are minding their own business and receiving welfare. But conservative Christians go out of their way to attack them, how they can believe they are infact Christian is a moral joke and a half.
Regarding loving thy neighbour. I don't get how cutting welfare doesn't go against loving thy neighbour? I didn't think Christians were even able to object to their own commandments. I thought the most they could do without breaking their religion was to sit there quietly and accept it no matter how much they felt otherwise. Cutting welfare has a draconian effect on people lol.
Christians really are a joke. I've seen them attack lower classes with great vitriol, disgust and contempt whilst calling themselves Christians. Honestly they're the polar opposite of Ned Flanders. I don't think conservative Christians even understand their own religion.
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Wouldnt they be shocked to find out their idol was a socialist before the word even existed.
Its usually the case that secularists abide by the teachings of Jesus much more than Christians. Secularists generally commit less crime, are more charitable and more tolerant of diversity.
You are confusing charity and the state. They are not the same thing. People implore INDIVIDUALS to give to other individuals. NOT the SAME thing.
The bible is expressly anti socialism and those who want free stuff.
And then there is the Tenth Commandment. “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor’s.”
Dear oh Dear.
There is a well known correlation between religion, lower taxes and MORE charitable giving.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...s-download-music-illegally.html#ixzz4hFJY5a1n
A survey from Manchester University found a direct correlation between higher visits to religious places and lower crime figures, especially in relation to shoplifting, drug use and music piracy
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http://ec.tynt.com/b/rf?id=bBOTTqvd0r3Pooab7jrHcU&u=DailyMail
Of course you could argue there was a positive correlation between religion and crime by including certain communities but then you would be hopelessly confusing correlation and causation.
Diversity. LOL. Couldnt find room for "enrichment" and LBTIQZX
That argument only works for providing welfare (and the bible still clearly orders things along the lines of charity and nothing about ordering contempt towards poverty classes).
Proactively attempting to remove existing welfare you're forced to unwillingly provide already isn't relevant to anything you've said and a blatant opposition to one of the holy commandments. Bottom line is Christians don't mind crossing the line on that one, why is that? When it's "taking you're money" you're willing to openly risk eternal damnation? You're forced to provide welfare you clearly don't want to. Not even willing to pay the welfare your forced to pay and wouldn't otherwise is one of the most anti Christian things I've ever heard. There's millions of athiests in this country right now who display more Christian values.
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Absolute bollocks
Which commandment says you must support state welfare?
"utter contempt towards poverty classes". Quality shark jumping, well done.
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You really have no idea. Talking s**t as usual. The Bible is not anti socialist at all.
Acts 2:44-45
And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need.
2 Corinthians 8:13-15
For I do not mean that others should be eased and you burdened, but that as a matter of fairness your abundance at the present time should supply their need, so that their abundance may supply your need, that there may be fairness. As it is written, “Whoever gathered much had nothing left over, and whoever gathered little had no lack.”
Ephesians 4:28
Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.
Galatians 6:2
Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
Acts 4:32-35
Now the full number of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one said that any of the things that belonged to him was his own, but they had everything in common. And with great power the apostles were giving their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all. There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need.
Luke 3:11
And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”
Acts 4:34-37
There was not a needy person among them, for as many as were owners of lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold and laid it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. Thus Joseph, who was also called by the apostles Barnabas (which means son of encouragement), a Levite, a native of Cyprus, sold a field that belonged to him and brought the money and laid it at the apostles' feet.
Deuteronomy 14:28-29
“At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.
Proverbs 31:9
Open your mouth, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.
Philippians 2:4
Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.
How is proactively attacking mandatory welfare not downtrodding your neighbour? There's even muslims in this country that don't piss all over that commandment by unobjectively paying welfare.
By going out of your way to attack these peoples quality of life to save your own dollars (if it's about anything else then I'd be happy to hear it) you make a mockery of your own commandments.
If Christians can misconstrue one commandment so much and towards their own benefit. Then it's obvious why Dawkins can't make any progress against these people. I'm surprised I was even taught about the big bang in school and not how to make people from bones. It's make up what we want to suit our position, be christian or anti christian whatever just call our selves Christian. Whatever fits for us. It's stick our fingers in our ears in la la la can't even realize my own hypocrisy land.
If a commandment says love thy neighbour and you spend your life attacking state welfare which has the flow effect of disadvantage and apathy then attacking welfare is a very very stupid thing for a Christian to do. It's no different than being an LBGT Christian. Having gay sex whilst believing the bible says you can get into heaven is just as tampered with for those individuals self interests too.
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lol. As if giving less free money is attacking someones way of life. Absurd argument.
By your logic if i give my number a tonne of free firewood this year then only half a tonne the next year then i am attacking their quality of life.
Complete and utter logic fail
You have also completely missed the Christian message of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
Yes Gough, Gods first X1
Belief in God is not a necessary condition of membership, nor is stupid dietary rules, silly diets, fasting, covering yourself in head to toe in cloth, mickey mouse hats etc etc
The very essence of enlightenment.
No wonder the British empire did such a sterling job of bringing civilisation to the masses.
That's the pigeon flyers.
No confession
No fiddling with altar boys.
