Opinion Could we learn from Richmond?

[loki04]

Maybe we should hire a coach that knows what he’s doing instead of pretending Buckley will turn out to be the next Hardwick

Hardwick ran a similar show before the infamous review and board challenge where some home truths were given to him that the players thought he was unlikable and too restrictive.

Did a personality and footy philosophy 180.


Think Bucks also did but it only lasted 12 months. 2018.

 

[Spuddd]

Hardwick ran a similar show before the infamous review and board challenge where some home truths were given to him that the players thought he was unlikable and too restrictive.

Did a personality and footy philosophy 180.


Think Bucks also did but it only lasted 12 months. 2018.

I think Buckleys personality, attitude and general way he interacts with the group has changed since 2018 and continues to be that way.

I have had varying thoughts over Buckley, should he be the head coach, if not what are the alternatives, etc?

My take, is that a Head Coach is similar to that of a high level senior manager in the corporate world. They're probably not going to get their hands dirty and do too much 'work' but their leadership and man-management is what makes a good leader - great.

How does this translate to Collingwood? Bucks has shown that he has the playing group on board, after a massive turn around in 2018 which was signaled to him growing a beard. The players got around him, we had a supporting cast of coaches that were highly skilled and operating well.

Our biggest problem at the moment is that management of our Assistant coaches;
1. We can't retain talent (Longmuir, Boyd) and we cant get rid of those that have become stale (Harvey).
2. Buckley is good friends with at least one of the assistants, outside of football (Sanderson). Referring back to the corporate analogy, can a senior manager get the best out of their direct reports & have the hard conversations, when they're close?

People are quick to bask 'the game plan' and put this on Buckley - and it should be, hes the head of the playing group. However its not his 'game plan', its the culmination of those around him, his assistants and to an extent his senior players who create it.

How can Collingwood get better - in my eyes, it's a massive clean out of assistant coaches.

 

[GoTigers2015]

Going to be hard without Eddie at the helm.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Hardwick has been coach at Richmond for over seven years. He has a losing record and has never won a final. Despite this the Richmond FC has stuck by him, and now, with a focus on enjoying their footy, Richmond have made a perfect start to the season. Are there lessons here for our club?
Should we stick with Buckley?
Should we concentrate more on fast ball movement?
Should we encourage our players to just enjoy their footy?

Is it just a fluke that Richmond are winning?

3/4 = not a fluke

 

[Quicky]

3/4 = not a fluke

Opening post was from 2017 for context.

 

[manicpie]

Going to be hard without Eddie at the helm.

Yes, it's funny, but be careful not to gloat because you are one Dustin Martin injury away from disaster. He hasn't had a major injury for years and he is well and truly due. And if you think you can win another flag without him then you need to rethink that

 

[manicpie]

3/4 = not a fluke

Definately not a fluke. The game plan is the only one in the comp that can beat the zones and structures clubs try to implement. The fast move on, play on style doesn't allow sides to set their zones up before the ball comes down, simple but brilliant game style

 

[magpie_marty]

Richmond has great depth and talent across there whole list.
They have recruited well these last 5 years.
Neil Balme has been huge for them.

 

[jmac70]

3/4 = not a fluke

I never said it was.

 

[Brick Loosener]

Yes, it's funny, but be careful not to gloat because you are one Dustin Martin injury away from disaster. He hasn't had a major injury for years and he is well and truly due. And if you think you can win another flag without him then you need to rethink that

Like we couldn't win a flag without Rance?

 

[mike123]

Like we couldn't win a flag without Rance?

I agree with the sentiment that one player does not make a team but the two are hardly comparable.

 

[Brick Loosener]

I agree with the sentiment that one player does not make a team but the two are hardly comparable.

The more interesting question is how did Martin win the Norm Smith when he didn't play?

 

[mike123]

The more interesting question is how did Martin win the Norm Smith when he didn't play?

Not really sure what the point your making is.

 

[danielnajdek]

Why isn't this only a Collingwood poster thread.

The dickheads over on the Richmond board do that.

 

[biggiemediums]

Richmond could EASILY be 1-4, 2-3 right now. They've been so lucky with teams kicking poorly against them. They're the worst undefeated team I've ever seen.

* me this aged poorly.

 

[jmac70]

Why isn't this only a Collingwood poster thread.

The dickheads over on the Richmond board do that.

It’s strange why they bother to post here.

 

[Brick Loosener]

Not really sure what the point your making is.

Nothing - just joking around.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Maybe the question of the thread should be renamed.

'Could Collingwood actually learn anything or are we destined to keep repeating the same s**t and expecting different results'

That seems more apt for the now, hopefully the club will 'learn' from the debacle that has been the last 10 years with the signs given by Ed & Walsh going.

Maybe just maybe, the club has finally had the epiphany from the pineapple in the ass that it so desperately needed. Fcuk I hope so!

 

[THATSGOLD]

Buckley won’t be coach in 2022.

 

[jmac70]

Buckley won’t be coach in 2022.

Maybe we can lure Hardwick. Would need to find a job for his GF.

 

[GoTigers2015]

Maybe we can lure Hardwick. Would need to find a job for his GF.

His GF is the head of the membership team, so you could do with her services.

 

[jmac70]

His GF is the head of the membership team, so you could do with her services.

Perfect match!

 

[TKiL]

Maybe we can lure Hardwick. Would need to find a job for his GF.

Hardwick expert at GFs, ....being Grand Finals

PS - be aware - coach poaching doesn't always work - like transplanting some trees etc

 

[TKiL]

It’s strange why they bother to post here.

If / when Pies win 3 flags in 4 years, pretty sure I will plant a few posts here and there on other sites

 

[THATSGOLD]

Maybe we can lure Hardwick. Would need to find a job for his GF.

He can date the whole football department if he can deliver us 3 flags in 4 seasons.