Cousins Hamstring!!

[Sico 17]

Are you serious? Its the medico's job to diagnose the situation and make a decision on their expertise, not on the players willingness to go out there. If there were any doubts on Cousin's hamstring, they should have let him finish the quarter out on the bikes. The game was lost, it wasnt Cousins call to go on its the medical staffs job to make those decisions.

Where do you think they get that information on the ground? Do the Doctors have some kind of sunglasses that show them an instant scan of the injury so they can give a diagnosis? Of course not, they ask the player questions about the injury, how is he feeling, how he did it, how bad he thinks it is. The only information the medical staff get about the injury during a game is from what the player tells them, if that player tells them it is just a touch of cramp and nothing major how are they supposed to know it is any different. Cousins has suffered cramp in the last quarter of all his pre season games so it is not out of the question for them to assume it wasn't cramp again. Plus I did not see Cousins at any stage showing any sign of being unwilling to return to the field.

 

[Embers]

Where do you think they get that information on the ground? Do the Doctors have some kind of sunglasses that show them an instant scan of the injury so they can give a diagnosis? Of course not, they ask the player questions about the injury, how is he feeling, how he did it, how bad he thinks it is. The only information the medical staff get about the injury during a game is from what the player tells them, if that player tells them it is just a touch of cramp and nothing major how are they supposed to know it is any different. Cousins has suffered cramp in the last quarter of all his pre season games so it is not out of the question for them to assume it wasn't cramp again. Plus I did not see Cousins at any stage showing any sign of being unwilling to return to the field.

That reminds me of the old Celtic manager

"Well how is he"
"Hes really concussed, he doesnt know who he is"
"Thats great, tell him hes Pele and send him back on"

In other words unless a doctor is a complete ****** they can make a judgment even if given false information. Everyone inside the stadium could see that he was at risk when he went back out there in the 2nd half. Whether Cousins wants to go back on is irrelevant as it is in cases of concussion. In the end the call is strictly with the medicos and they must bare the consequeces regardless if they feel they were given false information or not. They should be less narrow minded in the end

 

[Sico 17]

In the end the call is strictly with the medicos and they must bare the consequeces regardless if they feel they were given false information or not. They should be less narrow minded in the end

So now the Medical team need to be bulldust detectors and no responsibility whatsoever goes onto the player that lies about his condition? I can just see the reaction to them making a decision on a player, telling the coach "even though he is stretching, running without a limp and telling us he only had a bit of cramp I think he is telling porkies so you can't put him back on"! I am sure no one would question that.

Last night they asked him questions, gave him a rub down at 3 qtr time then asked him to stretch and go for a run along the boundary line. From what I saw there was no limp when he had a run, he stretched OK without grimacing and was happy to go back on. If he was feeling sore he should have put a jacket on, sat on the the bench and it should not have had anything to do with a medical department decision. No one knows how he was feeling or how bad the hamstring was more than Cousins himself, he has done enough of them in his career so he would know when one was about to go.

 

[Mr Q]

I forgot about the training incident but it does not change the fact that he did not pull his hammy 6 times in 12 games.

So missed 3 games in his last 26 due to injury before the Port Game.

But the Port game made it four in that season alone. Rounds 14, 15, 20 and the semi final of 2007. And it would have been five had the Eagles just kicked one more point during regular time in the SF. In 2007 he missed four of the eleven games the Eagles played where he wasn't suspended.

Not that it matters, but if you're going to have a go at someone else's facts, at least try and get yours correct.

 

[Pride of SA]

Soft effort mate. Having a crack at a guy who is trying to make his life a cleaner place and get back to playing footy and you rejoyce in his setback.

when he lets a hair on his head grow longer than 3cm whilst playing then I`ll join you in agreeing hes changed. Im still not sold.

But surely Richmond fans could have simply asked us Adelaide supporters what its like to draft a champion in their 30s with significant soft tissue injuries who hasnt played for nearly 2 years and thinking we`ve gotten the player they were 4 years prior.

taking a risk when you are nearly a premiership threat to get that player that could grab you a flag is one thing, picking up a player when you dont seem to have assembled more than one or two decent youngsters 4 years into a 5yr plan and look as far away from finals as ever is just crazy. is Cousins really going to bea part of the next Richmond flag side? if not then why draft him.

 

[ANGEL DARK]

when he lets a hair on his head grow longer than 3cm whilst playing then I`ll join you in agreeing hes changed. Im still not sold.

But surely Richmond fans could have simply asked us Adelaide supporters what its like to draft a champion in their 30s with significant soft tissue injuries who hasnt played for nearly 2 years and thinking we`ve gotten the player they were 4 years prior.

taking a risk when you are nearly a premiership threat to get that player that could grab you a flag is one thing, picking up a player when you dont seem to have assembled more than one or two decent youngsters 4 years into a 5yr plan and look as far away from finals as ever is just crazy. is Cousins really going to bea part of the next Richmond flag side? if not then why draft him.

Who says you need to be a flag contender in order to draft a 30 year old star.Just having him around the club is a huge learning curve for some of the young Richmond players on their list because despite his past off field indiscretions there is probably not many players who prepare themselves better for games and have the right work ethic as Cousins does when it comes to playing footy which is what some of the players on their list need.Yea sure it was a risk to draft him but a very low one considering what was on offer at the time so if it works out well and good but if not they havnt lost much either

 

[Bollox]

Still got no idea why some in this joint are so lovestruck and smitten by Cousins...its as tho they think the AFL is meant to be a halfway house or rehab centre where everyone gets aniother chance. You'd swear some people think he's supposed to be off limits for criticism or anything else a player cops normally. Gotta feel sorry for him...gotta give him time...gotta pretend it isnt his fault.

Its all so sickening and gullible.

Basically he should have been told to pack his bags permanantly after having so many chances...u screw up a few times then maybe u can be forgiven in any walk of life...but u take the piss and who the hell cares anymore.

He does the hammy everyone knew would happen and the tears start to fall and he's off limits again. Lay off poor Benny...yeah the same Benny that was more than likely wondering if his camera team were picking up the action when he went down the race to the rooms...the same Benny that couldnt give a rats arse what you think of him...and the same benny that couldnt give a rats arse about his former club or his teammates.

Anything he says about Richmond should be assumed to be just bullshit as well....heard it all before and what he says just isnt trustworthy enough to bother with.

Reality of the bloke is that its best to assume the first chance he gets he wont giveashit about Richmond either...thats just what he has told us through his actions.

He either gets and stays on the paddock or he gets delisted...no club needs a 30+ liability on their list these days.

 

[Embers]

So now the Medical team need to be bulldust detectors and no responsibility whatsoever goes onto the player that lies about his condition? I can just see the reaction to them making a decision on a player, telling the coach "even though he is stretching, running without a limp and telling us he only had a bit of cramp I think he is telling porkies so you can't put him back on"! I am sure no one would question that.

Last night they asked him questions, gave him a rub down at 3 qtr time then asked him to stretch and go for a run along the boundary line. From what I saw there was no limp when he had a run, he stretched OK without grimacing and was happy to go back on. If he was feeling sore he should have put a jacket on, sat on the the bench and it should not have had anything to do with a medical department decision. No one knows how he was feeling or how bad the hamstring was more than Cousins himself, he has done enough of them in his career so he would know when one was about to go.

Well according to Peter Larkins Cousins was telling the medical staff its not good and shaking his head after doing a few runs. Also according to Leigh Matthews the medicos are the ones that make that call about soft tissue injuries and whether they return or not.

So in other words apart from spelling Cousins name correctly you couldnt of been any more wrong

 

[wce4premiership]

Does anyone think if he wore compresison garments it would help?

or are they just recovery?

 

[Sico 17]

Well according to Peter Larkins Cousins was telling the medical staff its not good and shaking his head after doing a few runs. Also according to Leigh Matthews the medicos are the ones that make that call about soft tissue injuries and whether they return or not.

So in other words apart from spelling Cousins name correctly you couldnt of been any more wrong

And where did Matthew say the medicos got there information to make a decision? Larkins was right, Cousins was obviously so upset about going back on when he stood at the interchange gates for so long before he went on.

Even the biggest Cousins apologetic Jakovich say ultimately it was Cousins decision to come back on the ground.

And stop coppying what I write on EFH and claiming it as your own on here. You have used that "my room mate went to the game excuse" to death. You don't think everyone else can see what you do?

 

[GhostofJimJess]

And where did Matthew say the medicos got there information to make a decision? Larkins was right, Cousins was obviously so upset about going back on when he stood at the interchange gates for so long before he went on.

Even the biggest Cousins apologetic Jakovich say ultimately it was Cousins decision to come back on the ground.

And stop coppying what I write on EFH and claiming it as your own on here. You have used that "my room mate went to the game excuse" to death. You don't think everyone else can see what you do?

Well, Cousins has ended all speculation tonight by stating in an interview with the next Richmond coach that he felt alright at 3/4 time, and put his own hand up to go back on as a rotation when Tuck came off the ground.

He claimed that he had such twinges behind his knee all of his playing career, often through entire matches and entire seasons, and had always just played through them.