Mega Thread COVID-19 Carlton & the AFL - NO POLITICS/NO RELIGION/NO CONSPIRACIES ETC

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Donnini

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Ok - I enjoy the debate Donnini :thumbsu:

I do agree in the sense you cannot mandate taking a vaccine or a forced vaccination. You can't force a needle into peoples arms - which we aren't in Australia. We are making it a condition of certain employment or entry to events which you are correct - this is a form of segregation.

Respectfully I again reject the comparison to flu. Like it or not this a pandemic. A world wide pandemic - it's not the flu. It's killed millions around the world in 12 months - unlike anything we have seen in any of our lifetimes. This isn't a normal event - it's an extraordinary event and should be treated as such.

Can we make people get the vaccine - no. But I think we do - in this extraordinary time - have the right to impose some extraordinary laws such as the mandates and if that causes some temporary segregation for the next 12 months or so then so be it. It's the cost of war !
You can get more taking the Vaccine without being an experimental guinea pig. Different variants will require more injections....to what end and what will the cocktail mix of injections do to your body in the long term? No one knows and if you don't know then you don't force it on people.

More people will be more accepting to my mind if it becomes available in the form of a pill or drink like Yakult for example. But this is Dank on nitrous oxide.
 

Keyza

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Haha you’re assuming that we’ve even heard from DHHS! No we’re not all in quarantine, just our four year old.
The fact that you have not heard from them doesn't surprise.
No one at my work, all 60 or so us, never heard a thing from the Health dept the second time.
The only contact we had was through work who let us know when we had to go for our day 13 test and to send the results into them.
Work were the ones who cleared us.
DHHS had no idea who else was in my household so they could have just gone out and about and no one would ever have known.
 

Ninja Worrier

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You can get more taking the Vaccine without being an experimental guinea pig. Different variants will require more injections....to what end and what will the cocktail mix of injections do to your body in the long term? No one knows and if you don't know then you don't force it on people.

More people will be more accepting to my mind if it becomes available in the form of a pill or drink like Yakult for example. But this is Dank on nitrous oxide.
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The fact that you have not heard from them doesn't surprise.
No one at my work, all 60 or so us, never heard a thing from the Health dept the second time.
The only contact we had was through work who let us know when we had to go for our day 13 test and to send the results into them.
Work were the ones who cleared us.
DHHS had no idea who else was in my household so they could have just gone out and about and no one would ever have known.
This was a similar experience for us too.
My understanding is that normally in this scenario DHHS only deals with one or two main people from the workplace – Boss and/or HR person, and they then relay the information to staff. (Unless you're a positive case, then you'll hear directlly from DHHS as well)
We were in 14 day quarantine in July due to a workplace contact that had approx 200 staff affected, and none of the staff were contacted by DHHS either, but we were visited three times to be checked on to make sure we were home during those two weeks.
 
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Donnini

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You can choose whether or not to get a jab.

You can't choose your skin colour or gender or sexual identity or orientation.

Please have a semblance of critical thinking.
No you cant choose whether you can or not get the jab - people are losing their jobs and livelyhood in case you havent noticed.
 

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As we are seeing around the world vaccination reduces severity of the illness as medicine suggest. We know that it isnt a life sentence for the majority of us if we are infected. Everyone is offered the vaccine and should be up to the individual to make the descision to be vaxxed or unvaxxed. People should not loose employment if they refuse, but they should fit all medical costs if they get severely ill and be bottom of the queue if the pandemic erupts and hospital beds become scarce. Thats my 2 cents i respect everyones descision and opinion as there is no right or wrong answer in the predicament we all find ourselves in. Much respect to all
 

AndyLucimitis

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As we are seeing around the world vaccination reduces severity of the illness as medicine suggest. We know that it isnt a life sentence for the majority of us if we are infected. Everyone is offered the vaccine and should be up to the individual to make the descision to be vaxxed or unvaxxed. People should not loose employment if they refuse, but they should fit all medical costs if they get severely ill and be bottom of the queue if the pandemic erupts and hospital beds become scarce. Thats my 2 cents i respect everyones descision and opinion as there is no right or wrong answer in the predicament we all find ourselves in. Much respect to all

Personally I think this is a far more draconian and greater violation of someones rights (i.e. to medical treatment) than the vaccine mandate.

If you don't get the vax there is some leeway to leave your job and find a non-mandated job but if you get severely sick not sure you have much choice but to be treated.

Having said that it shits me to tears seeing all the un-vaxxed in hospital when it could easily be avoided !!
 

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mickelboy182

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I'm pretty nervous about SA opening up the borders next Tuesday. I'm trying not to stress though but nobody knows what to expect :(
Just have to expect cases but hopefully very few severe illnesses and death. A necessary step that is going to carry with it some unfortunate scenarios.
 

RPCB

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我今天刚接种了第二次疫苗, the nurse said there might be side effects from the second Pfizer vaccine I got today but I haven’t noticed any yet.
 

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Dion Prestia and Noah Balta have been diagnosed with having Covid19. Not good news at all.
 

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