COVID-19 / Coronavirus

[Gralin]

She is in West Footscay, part of the area that was locked down before the rest of Melbourne.

So she's in the Maribyrnong LGA which has 24 active cases out of around 90,000 people.

Could work out to one house per suburb if it was split evenly. Do you think with those numbers many people are going to say oh yeah I know someone who has it?

The numbers are low but not zero when you compare them to our overall population.

 

[Zack]

Channel 7 just said the towers outbreak has now exceeded cedar meats and al taqwa school. That's nice, my only issue is cedar meats is the al taqwa school driver everybody knows it, there is a chance the hotels topped it up. The towers well both cedar Meats and the hotels instigated the spread. Certainly they brought it to it.

Tired of the cover ups Dan, jenni and sutton the lies need to end. People have died in your second wave and u are directly responsible. Whether u go high and call it murder, medium and manslaughter or low depraved indifference to life. Your behaviour has aided and abetted in the death of Victorians.

Please stop killing my people.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Channel 7 just said the towers outbreak has now exceeded cedar meats and al taqwa school. That's nice, my only issue is cedar meats is the al taqwa school driver everybody knows it, there is a chance the hotels topped it up. The towers well both cedar Meats and the hotels instigated the spread. Certainly they brought it to it.

Tired of the cover ups Dan, jenni and sutton the lies need to end. People have died in your second wave and u are directly responsible. Whether u go high and call it murder, medium and manslaughter or low depraved indifference to life. Your behaviour has aided and abetted in the death of Victorians.

Please stop killing my people.

Did you say the same about the Ruby Princess ?

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

So she's in the Maribyrnong LGA which has 24 active cases out of around 90,000 people.

Could work out to one house per suburb if it was split evenly. Do you think with those numbers many people are going to say oh yeah I know someone who has it?

The numbers are low but not zero when you compare them to our overall population.

Exactly!!! Do we really need the whole of Melbourne in lockdown for these low numbers? Oh but we had 100+ cases so let's all panic!

 

[Lickmesocks]

We will never ever know the true impact or rate of infections that came from the BLM protests. Forget the stats that are being thrown at us.

10,000 plus on top of each other in the middle of a world wide pandemic. Absolutely NUTS.

 

[brew]

We will never ever know the true impact or rate of infections that came from the BLM protests. Forget the stats that are being thrown at us.

10,000 plus on top of each other in the middle of a world wide pandemic. Absolutely NUTS.

Careful.... you wont last long here with that sort of attitude

 

[Hawk Dork]

Exactly!!! Do we really need the whole of Melbourne in lockdown for these low numbers? Oh but we had 100+ cases so let's all panic!

If you lockdown and get rid of these low numbers and work out how to stop leakage from OS travellers then all is good ,until the inevitable leak happens again
Welcome to the new normal

 

[Hawk Dork]

We will never ever know the true impact or rate of infections that came from the BLM protests. Forget the stats that are being thrown at us.

10,000 plus on top of each other in the middle of a world wide pandemic. Absolutely NUTS.

Other states had the protests what are the numbers there?

 

[Lickmesocks]

Other states had the protests what are the numbers there?

No idea and don’t care about other states at the minute just like they don’t care about us.

The timing of the protest/rally was absolutely crazy.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

So 158 positive tests in the towers from 2515 tests.

And that’s why they locked it all down.

Positive tests being the key words. How many people are actually sick?

No, this does not justify putting innocent people under house arrest.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

We will never ever know the true impact or rate of infections that came from the BLM protests. Forget the stats that are being thrown at us.

10,000 plus on top of each other in the middle of a world wide pandemic. Absolutely NUTS.

Actually we will through target testing and tracing. That’s literally how it works.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Positive tests being the key words. How many people are actually sick?

No, this does not justify putting innocent people under house arrest.

10 serious

Australia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Australia Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[Messenger]

Positive tests being the key words. How many people are actually sick?

No, this does not justify putting innocent people under house arrest.

Comfortable with those people infecting others? That group could infect another 400 or more.

Many of those have been moved as I understand it.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Positive tests being the key words. How many people are actually sick?

No, this does not justify putting innocent people under house arrest.

This is a dumb argument.

We established months ago that illness from Covid covers the full gamut of sickness depending on the individuals, from almost no symptoms to death.

Do you want to be the person who kills your elderly neighbor, because you had a “flu” that was actually Covid?

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

10 serious

Australia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Australia Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

In the entirety of Australia and not from today's positive test results. We don't even know if these 10 are in fact from this latest 'outbreak'. As I've explained previously you can be in hospital for something else and be tested for Covid and if it's positive you will be counted in the stats as a covid case when you could be recovering from heart surgery or sick with cancer or something else.

 

[Hawk Dork]

In the entirety of Australia and not from today's positive test results. We don't even know if these 10 are in fact from this latest 'outbreak'. As I've explained previously you can be in hospital for something else and be tested for Covid and if it's positive you will be counted in the stats as a covid case when you could be recovering from heart surgery or sick with cancer or something else.

Well if your sick last thing you want is something else thats going to kill you quicker

3,088,101 Coronavirus Cases and 1,432 Active in Victoria - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Victoria

covidlive.com.au

40 in hospital in Victoria 9 in ICU

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

Comfortable with those people infecting others? That group could infect another 400 or more.

Many of those have been moved as I understand it.

But they don't do they? We know that from experience.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

This is a dumb argument.

We established months ago that illness from Covid covers the full gamut of sickness depending on the individuals, from almost no symptoms to death.

Do you want to be the person who kills your elderly neighbor, because you had a “flu” that was actually Covid?

Oh please, is that the best you can do? Trying to shame someone doesn't win you the argument. My neighbor is 102 as it happens and good as gold. Whenever she has a chat with me I can't even social distance as she's deaf and keeps moving closer! If I got sick I would avoid her obviously. If we can be asymptomatic and infect people then she could catch it from numerable people. However, I have lost two elderly relatives during this period as I've already mentioned. Couldn't attend the funerals like many others. (Yes, some of my friends have had family deaths too). So I've lost relatives to other causes, have friends in the same situation but don't know anyone that has tested positive to Covid19 let alone is sick from it. We need some perspective. The threat from this virus does not in any way justify the reaction.

And here is another thing to ponder. If this is so serious that we have to put the whole of Melbourne back into lockdown, how could Dan Andrews be so incredibly incompetent as to let this situation with the guards and the quarantined people happen? Surely, surely, he would have done absolutely everything to make sure that is didn't happen, crossed every i and dotted every t. It's not that difficult, other states have managed it. As bad as Dan is this story about the guards spreading it sounds too incompetent even for him.

 

[Gralin]

But they don't do they? We know that from experience.

How did we get to 1000 active cases in Victoria then?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Oh please, is that the best you can do? Trying to shame someone doesn't win you the argument. My neighbor is 102 as it happens and good as gold. Whenever she has a chat with me I can't even social distance as she's deaf and keeps moving closer! If I got sick I would avoid her obviously. If we can be asymptomatic and infect people then she could catch it from numerable people. However, I have lost two elderly relatives during this period as I've already mentioned. Couldn't attend the funerals like many others. (Yes, some of my friends have had family deaths too). So I've lost relatives to other causes, have friends in the same situation but don't know anyone that has tested positive to Covid19 let alone is sick from it. We need some perspective. The threat from this virus does not in any way justify the reaction.

And here is another thing to ponder. If this is so serious that we have to put the whole of Melbourne back into lockdown, how could Dan Andrews be so incredibly incompetent as to let this situation with the guards and the quarantined people happen? Surely, surely, he would have done absolutely everything to make sure that is didn't happen, crossed every i and dotted every t. It's not that difficult, other states have managed it. As bad as Dan is this story about the guards spreading it sounds too incompetent even for him.

So in one breath you’re arguing the lockdown and the virus is a beat up, and the next your saying a politician didn’t take this thing serious enough. Wow.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

So in one breath you’re arguing the lockdown and the virus is a beat up, and the next your saying a politician didn’t take this thing serious enough. Wow.

No, I'm not saying that at all. Read it carefully.

 

[Zack]

Did you say the same about the Ruby Princess ?

Filthy on the ruby princess was very vocal, that was a combination of indifference by both federal and nsw both liberal parties that should be treated exactly as I said about Daniel Andrew's. It was disgusting but they seem 2 have learned from it, Dan hasn't. He keeps repeating the mistakes if he thinks he can hide it. They so far seem to have said we fd up we will try not 2 do it again.

 

[Pessimistic]

We will never ever know the true impact or rate of infections that came from the BLM protests. Forget the stats that are being thrown at us.

10,000 plus on top of each other in the middle of a world wide pandemic. Absolutely NUTS.

happeed right around the world mate, is that what you’re referring to? Cos it dint happen in australia

 

[Pessimistic]

Filthy on the ruby princess was very vocal, that was a combination of indifference by both federal and nsw both liberal parties that should be treated exactly as I said about Daniel Andrew's. It was disgusting but they seem 2 have learned from it, Dan hasn't. He keeps repeating the mistakes if he thinks he can hide it. They so far seem to have said we fd up we will try not 2 do it again.

‘how have they not learned from it?

 

[Zack]

‘how have they not learned from it?

I reread my post I said they seem to have learned (scomo/gladys), not sure what I missed. Dan is singular.