Wolftone
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- Feb 1, 2012
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In answer to a proposition on RWO that we deliberately infect the players to build an immunity.
Yes I agree to a certain extent. The problem is if any players have chronic asthma complications can develop. COVID 19 is a member of a group of viruses that include SARS & MERS. There are also other less virulent strains like 229E, OC43, NL63 and HKU1. Coronaviruses generally cause mild upper respiratory infections. they are generally not dangerous and are unusual because they are passed on from animals to humans. MERS from Dromedary Camels and SARS from Civet Cats but they all link back to a grouping that originated from Bats. SARS came first in 2002.
SARS infected only 8,000 people worldwide but was deadly as 774, about 10%, of those infected died. But SARS disappeared by 2004.
MERS infected only 2,494, mainly in the Middle East. But it was, and is, deadly as 30% of people died. MERS continues to infect people but it is mainly people in close contact with Camels.
229E, OC43, NL63 and HKU1 all had little or no impact and the infection was mild if at all infectious.
COVID 19 is far different to any other Coronavirus as it is highly infectious. Another difference to SARS & MERS is that the majority of infections are mild. It only has a death rate of under 2% and severe infections are under 10%. This is unusual for a chronic Coronavirus infection in that it is almost as though one of the numeral infections is mixed with a SARS. I am not quoting scientific research in my last comment just an observation. This highly infectious and easily spread Coronavirus is heading for epidemic level very quickly which is another thing the others did not do. Will it disappear like SARS did or hang around like a bad smell like MERS? Abate MERS is only being transferred from Camel to Human and infection by human contact seems to have vanished.
It seems, like Flu Viruses, Coronaviruses have their time and then disappear and another one turns up some years later to replace it. They are viruses passed on by Bats to other animals, including humans. That might be a hint to be careful around Bats or animals that live close to Bat habitats. Unlike the Flu these viruses don't seem to last 12 months in their virulent form, infections seem to dwindle. Research says that this particular set of viruses, like Flu, prefer colder conditions to incubate. so TURN OFF THE COLD AIRCON AS A PRECAUTION. Do masks save you from infection? The answer is NO. They have proven to be quite useless. The problem here is that this particular group is spread by touch. Yes sneezing and coughing spread the virus but anything an infected person touches will spread it also. WASH YOUR HAND GEOFFREY. USE HAND SANITISER. TRY NOT TO USE PUBLIC TOILETS AS THERE IS A LINE OF RESEARCH THAT SUGGESTS FAECES MAY BE HIGHLY INFECTIOUS.
This is from what I have read on the subject. I am still reading research and listening to the experts. If Bill Bowtell says close the schools, the close the bloody schools. Kids are dirty little bastards at the best of times and teens are worse lol. I was a kid once I know lol. If Bowtell says ban all public gatherings and close the borders to get this under control until it disappears, bloody do it. This is the premium infectious diseases expert in our country telling it how it is.
As to deliberately exposing players. I suppose it is one way of creating a group immunity but there could be implications and drawbacks such as severe infection due to a preexisting condition. The other thing is insurance would suddenly be worthless if the clubs did this. They would also be breaking the law by deliberately infecting a person with a potentially deadly virus. I hope that brings things into perspective
By the way the certain extent I agree with is that by exposing players to a virus they could build up immunity. But some may not!!! That is the point of my article.
Yes I agree to a certain extent. The problem is if any players have chronic asthma complications can develop. COVID 19 is a member of a group of viruses that include SARS & MERS. There are also other less virulent strains like 229E, OC43, NL63 and HKU1. Coronaviruses generally cause mild upper respiratory infections. they are generally not dangerous and are unusual because they are passed on from animals to humans. MERS from Dromedary Camels and SARS from Civet Cats but they all link back to a grouping that originated from Bats. SARS came first in 2002.
SARS infected only 8,000 people worldwide but was deadly as 774, about 10%, of those infected died. But SARS disappeared by 2004.
MERS infected only 2,494, mainly in the Middle East. But it was, and is, deadly as 30% of people died. MERS continues to infect people but it is mainly people in close contact with Camels.
229E, OC43, NL63 and HKU1 all had little or no impact and the infection was mild if at all infectious.
COVID 19 is far different to any other Coronavirus as it is highly infectious. Another difference to SARS & MERS is that the majority of infections are mild. It only has a death rate of under 2% and severe infections are under 10%. This is unusual for a chronic Coronavirus infection in that it is almost as though one of the numeral infections is mixed with a SARS. I am not quoting scientific research in my last comment just an observation. This highly infectious and easily spread Coronavirus is heading for epidemic level very quickly which is another thing the others did not do. Will it disappear like SARS did or hang around like a bad smell like MERS? Abate MERS is only being transferred from Camel to Human and infection by human contact seems to have vanished.
It seems, like Flu Viruses, Coronaviruses have their time and then disappear and another one turns up some years later to replace it. They are viruses passed on by Bats to other animals, including humans. That might be a hint to be careful around Bats or animals that live close to Bat habitats. Unlike the Flu these viruses don't seem to last 12 months in their virulent form, infections seem to dwindle. Research says that this particular set of viruses, like Flu, prefer colder conditions to incubate. so TURN OFF THE COLD AIRCON AS A PRECAUTION. Do masks save you from infection? The answer is NO. They have proven to be quite useless. The problem here is that this particular group is spread by touch. Yes sneezing and coughing spread the virus but anything an infected person touches will spread it also. WASH YOUR HAND GEOFFREY. USE HAND SANITISER. TRY NOT TO USE PUBLIC TOILETS AS THERE IS A LINE OF RESEARCH THAT SUGGESTS FAECES MAY BE HIGHLY INFECTIOUS.
This is from what I have read on the subject. I am still reading research and listening to the experts. If Bill Bowtell says close the schools, the close the bloody schools. Kids are dirty little bastards at the best of times and teens are worse lol. I was a kid once I know lol. If Bowtell says ban all public gatherings and close the borders to get this under control until it disappears, bloody do it. This is the premium infectious diseases expert in our country telling it how it is.
As to deliberately exposing players. I suppose it is one way of creating a group immunity but there could be implications and drawbacks such as severe infection due to a preexisting condition. The other thing is insurance would suddenly be worthless if the clubs did this. They would also be breaking the law by deliberately infecting a person with a potentially deadly virus. I hope that brings things into perspective
By the way the certain extent I agree with is that by exposing players to a virus they could build up immunity. But some may not!!! That is the point of my article.
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