Mega Thread >>COVID-19 DISCUSSION THREAD<<

[scaryness]

Hopefully the worst has been contained now and we can open up after a week. I assume they are just trying to find and isolate any stragglers that may be infected.

The amount of day-of-exposure sites has been declining fast since restrictions. Most of the spreading was the weekend of the 22nd of May.

 

[Punts]

Hopefully the worst has been contained now and we can open up after a week. I assume they are just trying to find and isolate any stragglers that may be infected.

The amount of day-of-exposure sites has been declining fast since restrictions. Most of the spreading was the weekend of the 22nd of May.

They won’t open up a few days before the long weekend I bet ya

 

[Mister B]

They won’t open up a few days before the long weekend I bet ya

Think they said on the news they will partially open up but there will be restrictions on Metro people travelling outside of Metro areas.

 

[RW]

Oh the irony of some of those place names. If this person was symptomatic while travelling around they are as dumb as a sheep for trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes and has potentially cooked the goose of people in these areas whose towns have been exposed to COVID.

Did this post give anyone else flashbacks to when we had Jed Lamb on the list?

 

[Olian]

They won’t open up a few days before the long weekend I bet ya

Seems not unless you get to 0 transmissions in the next few days. But with false positive results who knows.

 

[mikey_san]

So....Melbourne is in covid lockdown. The game gets moved to Sydney for public health reasons.

Someone forgot to ban Melbourne supporters from traveling up to Sydney and spreading the Indian covid variant all over our city.
Thanks very much AFL and Gladys Berejiklian.

 

[Kapers]

So....Melbourne is in covid lockdown. The game gets moved to Sydney for public health reasons.

Someone forgot to ban Melbourne supporters from traveling up to Sydney and spreading the Indian covid variant all over our city.
Thanks very much AFL and Gladys Berejiklian.

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Ehhhh, I don't mind Sydney being rational and measured.

NSW has proved that their restrictions have worked despite the relative freedom compared to other states.

 

[bedford]

Ehhhh, I don't mind Sydney being rational and measured.

NSW has proved that their restrictions have worked despite the relative freedom compared to other states.

Crap , she should have locked down Greater Sydney on about Dec 15 and it wouldn't have got down to Victoria

 

[Kapers]

Crap , she should have locked down Greater Sydney on about Dec 15 and it wouldn't have got down to Victoria

Ahhh yes, one mistake.

I'm glad that Victoria hasn't made any massive mistakes that caused the pandemic to take hold of Australia for longer than it should of.

I'm not saying NSW doesn't make errors, it does. I just feel that looking at all states equally, NSW has probably had the best balance between restrictions and freedoms.

 

[bedford]

We do have a covid thread https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/covid-19-discussion-thread.1237296/

I was only replying to false post

 

[Chaisa]

Crap , she should have locked down Greater Sydney on about Dec 15 and it wouldn't have got down to Victoria

I mean Victoria gave us the virus in July......

Also if people were mandating lockdowns over Christmas I guarantee you there would be a lot of breaches. The virus spread through Sydney for what....3 weeks? It's clear that a lockdown there wasn't necessary for Greater Sydney given that most of the cases were tightly locked.

 

[bedford]

I mean Victoria gave us the virus in July......

Also if people were mandating lockdowns over Christmas I guarantee you there would be a lot of breaches. The virus spread through Sydney for what....3 weeks? It's clear that a lockdown there wasn't necessary for Greater Sydney given that most of the cases were tightly locked.

It escaped to Black Rock ffs and ruined many xmas holidays

 

[Jewelsbon]

I mean Victoria gave us the virus in July......

Also if people were mandating lockdowns over Christmas I guarantee you there would be a lot of breaches. The virus spread through Sydney for what....3 weeks? It's clear that a lockdown there wasn't necessary for Greater Sydney given that most of the cases were tightly locked.

It escaped to Black Rock ffs and ruined many xmas holidays

Corona virus thread on the Skilton Bar PLEASE!!!!!

 

[The King!]

It escaped to Black Rock ffs and ruined many xmas holidays

Bias to the covid thread this is footy

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Urrkkhh... 11 new cases all linked to existing.

State Governments do not control who enters the country. That is down to the Commonwealth.

They need to reopen the old quarantine or build new stations and air drop supplies in, especially with the Delta variant. I feel for folk stuck overseas but no more than I do any other humans.

Like most I am completely over it. I have chronic immune deficiency (and other health issues) and provide care for a dementing 95 yo (full time since March last year). Could not place her in aged care even for respite because of the risks of CV19.

The Commonwealth's abject failure to jab up workers in aged care and every resident is criminal negligence. They are more concerned with defending sexual assault allegations, happy clapping and making $s. An absolute pox on all their houses!

 

[Millky95]

Urrkkhh... 11 new cases all linked to existing.

State Governments do not control who enters the country. That is down to the Commonwealth.

They need to reopen the old quarantine or build new stations and air drop supplies in, especially with the Delta variant. I feel for folk stuck overseas but no more than I do any other humans.

Like most I am completely over it. I have chronic immune deficiency (and other health issues) and provide care for a dementing 95 yo (full time since March last year). Could not place her in aged care even for respite because of the risks of CV19.

The Commonwealth's abject failure to jab up workers in aged care and every resident is criminal negligence. They are more concerned with defending sexual assault allegations, happy clapping and making $s. An absolute pox on all their houses!

Feds announced a new bridge for NSW that'd cost the same as a new dedicated quarentine facility in any state

 

[Olian]

Unpopular opinion but we’ve had less than a handful of deaths in the last 7 months from COVID. Overall I think Federal and State governments have done a decent job in mitigating the impact of COVID. To a greater extent our lives have returned to a normal (bar WFH) and the odd lockdown.

There will be a few outbreaks but not the end of the world stuff. It’s a virus that some carry without showing symptoms. Hard to stop completely.

Rather than spending money on quarantine facilities they could acclerate the vaccination program. It won’t be fool proof because not everyone will want to be vaccinated but it could help with returning to normal and reduce lockdowns.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Can I ask those advocating for the federal government to build more purpose built quarantine centres - and I'm not after an argument here just an answer, when this whole thing is over and done with what do you propose we do with these centres? Do you have thoughts on some future use or do you believe that it would be perfectly fine for them to then just sit like giant white elephants?

 

[Millky95]

Can I ask those advocating for the federal government to build more purpose built quarantine centres - and I'm not after an argument here just an answer, when this whole thing is over and done with what do you propose we do with these centres? Do you have thoughts on some future use or do you believe that it would be perfectly fine for them to then just sit like giant white elephants?

Emergency housing for bushfire/flood victims, army barracks, immigration centre similar to Christmas Island are just a few off the top of my head.

Also, having dedicated facilities for quarantine will be good for the next time there is a pandemic.

 

[RW]

We have built quarantine stations in the past in response to pandemics and other infectious diseases. We got rid of them because of money basically (captains of commercial shipping vessels complained about the lost income):

North Head Quarantine Station - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Jewelsbon]

Emergency housing for bushfire/flood victims, army barracks, immigration centre similar to Christmas Island are just a few off the top of my head.

Also, having dedicated facilities for quarantine will be good for the next time there is a pandemic.

Thank you for the response and they were the uses I had thought of.
Personally I don't think any of those reasons would justify the cost involved when, generally speaking, hotel quarantine is working fine. Add on the time it would take to get them ready and (personal thoughts only) I believe it would be right up there with the de sal plant in Sydney - expensive and unnecessary.
I agree with Olian that the money would be far better spent on getting the vaccination system up to speed, I believe vaccination is the only way we will get over this.

 

[bedford]

Thank you for the response and they were the uses I had thought of.
Personally I don't think any of those reasons would justify the cost involved when, generally speaking, hotel quarantine is working fine. Add on the time it would take to get them ready and (personal thoughts only) I believe it would be right up there with the de sal plant in Sydney - expensive and unnecessary.
I agree with Olian that the money would be far better spent on getting the vaccination system up to speed, I believe vaccination is the only way we will get over this.

De Sal plants are an investment for the future

 

[Millky95]

Thank you for the response and they were the uses I had thought of.
Personally I don't think any of those reasons would justify the cost involved when, generally speaking, hotel quarantine is working fine. Add on the time it would take to get them ready and (personal thoughts only) I believe it would be right up there with the de sal plant in Sydney - expensive and unnecessary.
I agree with Olian that the money would be far better spent on getting the vaccination system up to speed, I believe vaccination is the only way we will get over this.

I agree that vaccination is the best long term solution to COVID. Couldn't agree more.

However, HQ has had I believe 21 leaks that has lead to 5 lockdowns (6 if you include the big Vic lockdown last year) currently. This leak has caused the biggest lockdown since the big Vic one last year. The quarantine facility in the NT has had 0 leaks. If we want to open up the country to returning Australians, international students and eventually international tourists, we need facilities that are more purpose built than hotels.

One of the major issues that is somewhat under played in all of this, is that these facilities should have been built last year. Our boarders were tighter, we didn't have vaccines and our economy had taken a hit. If you built these facilities in each state last year and assuming they were finished by 2021 you would have avoided 2 Perth snap lockdowns, the one for the Australian Open, this one and all the future ones we will have. The more return travelers we take in is a bigger chance we import the virus. Yes they would have been expensive but it would have created jobs in each state which would come back in the form of GST and income tax.

Given how we are on track to reach herd immunity by Oct 2022, I fully expect HQ to provide us with at least 10 more lockdowns with 1 or 2 states ending up like Victoria is currently or worse.

 

[Olian]

De Sal plants are an investment for the future

Are you suggesting we use Desalination plants as quarantine facilities?

 

[bedford]

Are you suggesting we use Desalination plants as quarantine facilities?

Someone mentioned it lol . Waiting to be told to go to the Delsalination thread