Mega Thread COVID & AFL

[Van_Dyke]

Team,
as the season is approaching and there’s still much to discuss with regards to covid, please use this thread to talk about it and the potential impacts of it on the AFL season and the league more broadly. Please note however that if you want to talk about the politics of covid, the politics thread is the place for this and political posts in this thread will be deleted, please keep this thread to how it may impact the competition

 

[gotterdamerung]

Absurd that there's a lockdown after two cases, 18 months into this thing.

 

[gaskin]

Absurd that there's a lockdown after two cases, 18 months into this thing.

Why? There are 3 cases and it stops the bullshit that NSW are going through. Plus, this Delta variant is supposedly a lot worse than what we have seen. The positive case tonight got it from being in the same restaurant as one of the other cases without even coming into contact with them.

 

[gotterdamerung]

Plus, this Delta variant is supposedly a lot worse than what we have seen.

It isn't.

 

[freo1997]

Anyone that still takes covid lightly is a moron and belongs on the Eagle board.

Look at Sydney ffs. Wake up.

 

[Taylor]

Perth doesn't have room in the hospitals before covid.

Better hope this run of nobody dying from it continues.

 

[gaskin]

Anyone that still takes covid lightly is a moron and belongs on the Eagle board.

Look at Sydney ffs. Wake up.

Agreed but I am sick of getting into arguments about it so I just let those comments slide.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

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[gotterdamerung]

A virus being more transmissible as the delta variant supposedly is means it is less deadly. Viruses evolve to attenuate their lethality and enhance their transmissibility. Eventually this virus will become endemic globally and rapidly mutating like the cold (which itself includes coronaviruses).

 

[Mr Cheese]

I think it's likely that the season as intended is in peril - 3 cases and counting in WA, NSW has major problems, and sounds like Queensland and NT are probably going to lockdown. Not sure if Vic are on the other side of it or if things will kick off again there.

Hubs are likely I'd say, and we'll probably be losing this week as a minimum

 

[estibador]

Doesn't Victoria have active cases too? What's the rationale behind moving our game there?

 

[Van_Dyke]

Our two away wins for the season and when we build some momentum has been closely followed up by covid cases in this state. Very, very dockery

 

[Purple Jesus]

The whole country should be vaccinated already. The fact that it's not, despite the head start as far as low case count went is a blight on the country's leadership. Absurd that it's still causing these snap lockdowns randomly.

At least though we're not on a serious flag push this year. Free development year.

 

[GingerDocker]

The whole country should be vaccinated already. The fact that it's not, despite the head start as far as low case count went is a blight on the country's leadership. Absurd that it's still causing these snap lockdowns randomly.

At least though we're not on a serious flag push this year. Free development year.

I said that last year

 

[gotterdamerung]

The whole country should be vaccinated already. The fact that it's not, despite the head start as far as low case count went is a blight on the country's leadership. Absurd that it's still causing these snap lockdowns randomly.

At least though we're not on a serious flag push this year. Free development year.

UK is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world and going back into lockdown restrictions.

 

[Purple Jesus]

UK is one of the most vaccinated countries in the world and going back into lockdown restrictions.

If by 'going back into lockdown restrictions' you mean opening up fully on the 19th July, then yes.

 

[gotterdamerung]

If by 'going back into lockdown restrictions' you mean opening up fully on the 19th July, then yes.

They were meant to open up a week ago.

 

[Purple Jesus]

They were meant to open up a week ago.

Well aware. I live there.

This is why:



To delay the reopening due to the delta variant to give more people time to get fully vaccinated.

BTW this is the deaths graph, due to said vaccinations:

 

[gotterdamerung]

Well aware. I live there.

This is why:

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To delay the reopening due to the delta variant to give more people time to get fully vaccinated.

BTW this is the deaths graph, due to said vaccinations:

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Seems obvious from those graphs the delta variant isn't as deadly and doesn't necessitate a lockdown.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Seems obvious from those graphs the delta variant isn't as deadly and doesn't necessitate a lockdown.

Not sure if srs.

 

[gotterdamerung]

Not sure if srs.

I am. There is nothing said about the IFR of the delta variant, other than it being more infectious. Generally when a virus becomes more infectious, it loses virulence. It doesn't make sense for a virus to evolve to kill more of its hosts.

Who cares if it is more infectious? You can guarantee you have caught coronaviruses on multiple occasions over your life time, none of them killing you or anyone you know.

 

[Purple Jesus]

I am. There is nothing said about the IFR of the delta variant, other than it being more infectious. Generally when a virus becomes more infectious, it loses virulence. It doesn't make sense for a virus to evolve to kill more of its hosts.

Who cares if it is more infectious? You can guarantee you have caught coronaviruses on multiple occasions over your life time, none of them killing you or anyone you know.

You're ignoring the giant fact that near 100% of the vulnerable are fully vaccinated and nearly half the entire population is fully vaccinated - in decending age order.

As opposed to...

6.3% in WA at 5000 per day

At this rate you'll be fully vaccinated in 18 months...

 

[Square Peg]

Would anyone actually have begrudged AFL players and staff "jumping the queue" and all getting the Pfizer months ago.
I mean it's not as though the average deadbeat lazy lockdown-supporting moron that populates this country by the millions s clamouring at the doors demanding vaccination.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Would anyone actually have begrudged AFL players and staff "jumping the queue" and all getting the Pfizer months ago.
I mean it's not as though the average deadbeat lazy lockdown-supporting moron that populates this country by the millions s clamouring at the doors demanding vaccination.

Given the amount they travel, it's absurd that they haven't been to protect local populations when they arrive.

 

[gotterdamerung]

You're ignoring the giant fact that near 100% of the vulnerable are fully vaccinated and nearly half the entire population is fully vaccinated - in decending age order.

As opposed to...

6.3% in WA

Yes, we should vaccinate the vulnerable, eg the over 60s, and then completely open up. FYI everyone I know over 60 is vaccinated.

Fewer people younger than 60 die from this disease than die from seasonal flu.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Yes, we should vaccinate the vulnerable, eg the over 60s, and then completely open up. FYI everyone I know over 60 is vaccinated.

Fewer people younger than 60 die from this disease than die from seasonal flu.

We'll just ignore the over 7000 people under 60 who died in the UK then. * em eh?