JB1975
Brownlow Medallist
It wasn't partisan?
You might need to re-read it.
Yes, I might need to re-read it. Will do so ASAP.
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It wasn't partisan?
You might need to re-read it.
You might need another bowl.
I just re-read the whole thing, due to JB1975 deciding to play the man and claim that I was enacting an agenda of contrariness, which I can be fond of, as it's my job to play devils advocate to get students to think - a job I play well, but I wasn't doing that at all on this occasion.
I posted a positive post. My original response to his Dan worshipping stuff that was laden with dire results of opening up, was just that NSW underestimated the efficacy of the vaccine and thus overestimated the case numbers and the consequences that are likely to ensue. Therefore it's likely that Vics did the same and thus current modelling is probably more positive than that which was published a couple of months ago. I thought it was a positive post with nothing contrary about it at all.
Then JB responded with a whole lot of patronising stuff about people crying freedom with no cost to themselves - and then seemed to think I was just being contrary when I disagreed.
That might be where you went wrong. My posting wasn't a form of Dan-fandom at all, you've gone and made that up in your own head and written a day's worth of nonsense on the back of it.
But yes, you are partial to contrarianism. We can agree there.
The devotionals dedicated to the Don strike me as low-humour and lower politics. NSW has an advanced vaccination rate, and the broad reality is that he's now making some moves to push beyond the reality we've all been living in for too long.
The idolisation of Perrottet is not my issue, so much as the underappreciation of what we're about to embark on in Victoria.
Andrews hasn't tried to sidestep the roadmap he laid down not so long ago. Victoria is on its own march towards a post-pandemic reality, which means freedom for many, but it will also bring extraordinary stress and enduring pain.
There's nothing conservative or risk-averse about the next few months. Many people aren't vaccinated, or can't be vaccinated, or will get sick despite the vaccine, or will get the virus and suffer many and varied effects for the rest of their lives which don't include death. The health system for all of us will almost certainly struggle.
I agree with our bid for freedom, but I'll keep reminding myself that I don't have to pay the cost of it, that other people will pick up the tab, and I'll keep reminding myself that Victoria's 'painfully slow' or 'conservative' approach actually sacrifices lives so that the rest of us can get on with ours. There's nothing especially conservative about that.
Are you being disingenuous or just unaware of your partisanship?
It's well written - flip the names and remove the doomsday stuff and Murdoch would love you, or better still, if there is a Labour equivalent to Murdoch press - you should apply.
You're grasping.
My line of posting today was clearly aimed against a partisan reading of pandemic policy. Oddly enough, this includes the post you've quoted, which is more concerned to try and link the approaches of Victoria and NSW.
But you've decided to interpret it differently, not based upon the content, but upon your own vague inferences and --I'd suggest-- my previous willingness to acknowledge myself as a Labor voter.
I'm happy for you to keep up your efforts, which after all are enjoying some support from others, but for myself I know that it will continue to bear little relationship to anything I've actually said.
So to answer my question - it's obviously unaware.
I read a post from you a while back, where you talked about questioning your posting due to criticisms it'd received. At the time, I was bemused, as I thought that surely someone with such a fantastic command of language must know that he plays the man with catty condescending quips when someone disagrees with him. But perhaps you aren't aware of that either?
I'm quite willing to let you speak my parts and to carry the conversation for both of us.
Which is really what you've been doing from the outset, but now we can make it official.
Anyway.I'm quite willing to let you speak my parts and to carry the conversation for both of us.
Which is really what you've been doing from the outset, but now we can make it official.
We (Melbourne) are currently tracking slightly higher than the Burnett modelling.Anyway.
Here's the good news that I was referring to, which kicked this off as you seemed to view it as argumentative. And why I was suggesting the two month old Australian modelling that everyone refers to is probably out of date and more dire than what will likely pass.
Why Sydney COVID numbers did not get as bad as the modelling suggested
www.sydney.edu.au
You don’t think it’s appropriate for the Premier to announce changes to the roadmap?Andrews to announce extra freedoms on Sunday
Changes to home gatherings and travel limits may be made by next weekend.www.theage.com.au
Glad to see that restrictions are being eased but "announcing freedoms?". Big Ears the Freedom Announcer? F off, really just f off.
* I understand this is the Age's language and not the premier's.
Dom the Breeder is a good one. Our unis definitely need the money brought in by foreign students, given they didn’t see a cent of JobKeeper.It is to Australia’s enormous long-term advantage to get vaccinated foreign students here ASAP
Dom The Breeder is pushing hard for this
Hugs to Wai-fong, Sanjay, and Dennis Wong, we want you back
I think his issue is with “extra freedoms”, as if they’re not our inherent freedoms that have been taken away.You don’t think it’s appropriate for the Premier to announce changes to the roadmap?
So his issue is with a newspaper headline.I think his issue is with “extra freedoms”, as if they’re not our inherent freedoms that have been taken away.
There's a couple of subjects I'd like to broach with Wai-fong and probably Dennis if they form a captive audience in quarantine. I will be disappointed if they are able to simply swan though immigration and baggage inspection and head straight into the outside world. Sanjay sounds like a decent sort of guy that comes from a country where at least lip service is paid to things that most matter in life.It is to Australia’s enormous long-term advantage to get vaccinated foreign students here ASAP
Dom The Breeder is pushing hard for this
Hugs to Wai-fong, Sanjay, and Dennis Wong, we want you back
I thought that they were to be announced 70% DB, the 12st, next Thursday. But for some reason, Big Ears likes to make his big announcements on a Sunday, just so he can deny us the freedoms by a couple more days.You don’t think it’s appropriate for the Premier to announce changes to the roadmap?
Gotta stop people from doing things on the weekend!I thought that they were to be announced 70% DB, the 12st, next Thursday. But for some reason, Big Ears likes to make his big announcements on a Sunday, just so he can deny us the freedoms by a couple more days.
How so?I thought that they were to be announced 70% DB, the 12st, next Thursday. But for some reason, Big Ears likes to make his big announcements on a Sunday, just so he can deny us the freedoms by a couple more days.
Not to mention his pass that setup the first goal.Liverpool 4 v Watford 0
The Salah goal.. fu**en ridiculous.
I've sensed for a while that should jmac and JB1975 share the shoes of Big Ears, my silver hair would be tripping me as I attempted to walk, a skill I fear I may lose from years of lockdown. Until the death of the 'last-anti-or-unable-to-waxxer' has been averted, the final covid hospital patient discharged and the one remaining speck of covid destroyed and deep cleaned, jb and jm may never allow us to emerge from this purgatory of restricted existence. They make Big Ears appear by comparison a revolutionary, a man of radical thought, impulsively driving Victorians to an early death through his reckless actions.You might need another bowl.
I just re-read the whole thing, due to JB1975 deciding to play the man and claim that I was enacting an agenda of contrariness, which I can be fond of, as it's my job to play devils advocate to get students to think - a job I play well, but I wasn't doing that at all on this occasion.
I posted a positive post. My original response to his Dan worshipping stuff that was laden with dire results of opening up, was just that NSW underestimated the efficacy of the vaccine and thus overestimated the case numbers and the consequences that are likely to ensue. Therefore it's likely that Vics did the same and thus current modelling is probably more positive than that which was published a couple of months ago. I thought it was a positive post with nothing contrary about it at all.
Then JB responded with a whole lot of patronising stuff about people crying freedom with no cost to themselves - and then seemed to think I was just being contrary when I disagreed.
Not to mention his pass that setup the first goal.