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Which adult vaccines have you had?
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Not that it’s any of your business… but off the top of my head, Tetanus, Hep A, Typhoid… There’s probably others I’ve forgotten about prior to travel etc.
None of which were mandatory btw. They didn’t need to be. I weighed up the risks myself and decided to have them.
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We were way down the charts not long ago, weren’t we?
I think what you’re asking is, the more people that have the vaccine the less people that will die and take up hospital beds for people with other illnesses?
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Given our huge covax uptake now we have vaccine supply, we are catching up.... but we are still only just inside the top-100 for fully vaccinated.
Currently 56.7% of all population (69.2% of age 16+). Top-20 all above 73% or 30% ahead of us. Given our current rate, we will be well placed by early December.
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Good on you. I'm sure you'll agree the benefits of vaccination outweigh the minuscule risks, all of which would happen in the first 2 months not 20 years later as some say.
I've had all those as well, and am contemplating having the shingles vaccine as that's a bastard of a disease. Costs around $200 though
To be fair, we have no idea what the 20 year risk is. We don't even know what the 12 month risks are. We don't even know how long these vaccines remain effective, and/or how often we'll require booster shots.Good on you. I'm sure you'll agree the benefits of vaccination outweigh the minuscule risks, all of which would happen in the first 2 months not 20 years later as some say.
I've had all those as well, and am contemplating having the shingles vaccine as that's a bastard of a disease. Costs around $200 though
I've had my shots of Pfizer - but I can only hope that these vaccines don't have long-term side effects, which haven't shown up yet due to the haste with which they were approved.
Certainly the vaccines' short term risk is lower than that of COVID, once COVID became active in the community. As to the long term risks? We have NFI.
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The arguments for not making it mandatory are endless — including everything you’ve just posted.
But people can’t seem to grasp that opposing vaccines mandates is not equivalent to opposing vaccines.
watched close friends suffer shingles. Went to doc and asked for vax! $197 from memory about a year ago. Money well spent IMOGood on you. I'm sure you'll agree the benefits of vaccination outweigh the minuscule risks, all of which would happen in the first 2 months not 20 years later as some say.
I've had all those as well, and am contemplating having the shingles vaccine as that's a bastard of a disease. Costs around $200 though
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Dano's Viktoriastan still galloping headlong at a great rate 1,841 new cases and 12 deaths.
Concern vaccine protection starting to wane
As Victoria emerges from lockdown, health experts remain concerned vaccine protection among some of the population may have already begun to wane.
CSIRO health director Dr Rob Grenfell said booster doses have been suggested for people who have severe immune system issues.
"They've already started doing those for particular people, people who have got leukaemia or cancer treatment or people on immunosuppressive drugs," he told Today.
"It has been demonstrated many of those will require that.
"We have seen a number of admissions of people who have had vaccines across Victoria and NSW and they are almost all invariably people who have compromised immune systems."
Third doses are not recommended yet for the rest of the population.
Meanwhile in Dom's NSW numbers continue to drop 283 new cases and 7 deaths
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Concern vaccine protection starting to wane
As Victoria emerges from lockdown, health experts remain concerned vaccine protection among some of the population may have already begun to wane.
CSIRO health director Dr Rob Grenfell said booster doses have been suggested for people who have severe immune system issues.
"They've already started doing those for particular people, people who have got leukaemia or cancer treatment or people on immunosuppressive drugs," he told Today.
"It has been demonstrated many of those will require that.
"We have seen a number of admissions of people who have had vaccines across Victoria and NSW and they are almost all invariably people who have compromised immune systems."
Third doses are not recommended yet for the rest of the population.
Meanwhile in Dom's NSW numbers continue to drop 283 new cases and 7 deaths
COVID-19 hospitalisations continue to drop as NSW records 283 cases, seven deaths
The NSW government announces a $530 million package to revitalise the pandemic-ravaged tourism industry as the state records 283 COVID-19 cases and seven deaths.
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Dano's Viktoriastan still galloping headlong at a great rate 1,841 new cases and 12 deaths.
Concern vaccine protection starting to wane
As Victoria emerges from lockdown, health experts remain concerned vaccine protection among some of the population may have already begun to wane.
CSIRO health director Dr Rob Grenfell said booster doses have been suggested for people who have severe immune system issues.
"They've already started doing those for particular people, people who have got leukaemia or cancer treatment or people on immunosuppressive drugs," he told Today.
"It has been demonstrated many of those will require that.
"We have seen a number of admissions of people who have had vaccines across Victoria and NSW and they are almost all invariably people who have compromised immune systems."
Third doses are not recommended yet for the rest of the population.
Meanwhile in Dom's NSW numbers continue to drop 283 new cases and 7 deaths
COVID-19 hospitalisations continue to drop as NSW records 283 cases, seven deaths
The NSW government announces a $530 million package to revitalise the pandemic-ravaged tourism industry as the state records 283 COVID-19 cases and seven deaths.
I don't understand the relevance of your vaccine protection quotes to your comparison of VIC and NSW cases.
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You might if you were involved in the Politics thread before it got closed down and the Gladys and Morrison detractors disappeared when their lockdown luvvie Dano's numbers started to hit the fan. They know who they are.I don't understand the relevance of your vaccine protection quotes to your comparison of VIC and NSW cases.
My disappearance had nothing to do with that. It had everything to do with this thread being started by someone on my ignore list, so it took me a long time before I became aware of its existence.
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I don't understand the relevance of your vaccine protection quotes to your comparison of VIC and NSW cases.
In a nutshell it's because one state is Labor and the other is Liberal
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Only in the regard that the previous Dano Andrews and Brett Sutton's Viktoriastan lockdown luvvies that were all over Gladys Berejiklian, Brad Hazzard and Morrison's so called incompetence disappeared off the scene as soon as the brown matter hit the fan in Dano's Viktoriastan, the lockdown Capital of the whole wide World.
Turns out Dano's gone to the head of the class in the incompetence stakes putting Viktoriastan's citizens and businesses through draconian conditions resulting in thousands of small businesses going to the wall, hospitals, ambulance services and staff under severe pressure, the state's economy in tatters but these jokers have gone silent.
And did I mention the 4,000 hospital beds and staff to service them Dano and then (now resigned in disgrace) Health Minister Jenny Mikakos promised 18 or so months ago have not been delivered and when Dano is questioned on this he bristles and dodges and weaves because he knows it's another case of non delivery of a core promise.
And of course Dano instead of manning up throws Minister Mikakos under the proverbial bus. The bloke is evil.
The career of former health minister Jenny Mikakos
The political career of Health Minister Jenny Mikakos came to an end on Saturday after she resigned from parliament over Victoria's disastrous hotel quarantine program that unleashed the state's second wave of COVID-19.
2020: Takes on the role coordinating the health department's response to the COVID-19 pandemic as part of the crisis council of cabinet. Hundreds die and millions are forced into lockdown when the virus escapes hotel quarantine. Later resigns from Parliament after Premier Daniel Andrews tells an inquiry that she is accountable for the system's failures.
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No, Slippery Pete, it's true, I am on his ignore list. It may have been because I continued to remind him that he stated that Gladys was actively trying to kill her fellow NSWelshmen after they'd successfully squashed the previous outbreak.
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I laughed because half of the Adelaide board is on his ignore list.
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There's a chance I overdid mentioning that claim by bringing it up in every post. I'd have put me on ignore too.
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We can't project 20 years into the future for this or any vaccine true, but it would seem very unlikely to cause a problem that far along given its mechanism of action. I doubt that any vaccine has been introduced after waiting 20 years for long term data though.
mRNA technology is not all that new and has been used in phase 1 trials previously for other viruses, which weren't all that effective but at least didn't cause long term problems. The mRNA breaks down after a few weeks anyway and stops making the protein it was designed to do, so isn't in the system for long at all. It certainly doesn't affect DNA as the anti-vax movement is telling us.
For the mRNA waverers, there is still the option of having a conventional virus vector vaccine like AZ or forthcoming Novavax, as that technology is well established for many previous vaccines.
As for booster shots, it would seem that we'll all need them given other countries new Covid spikes but as you say, for how long?
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To be fair, he is good at the list management side of things...but when it came to the politics thread...uuugh god no
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What people don't understand is that no vaccination including Covid is mandatory. No-one is forcing anyone to have it, its not compulsory.
If they choose not to be vaccinated, then fine they can take their chances when Covid inevitably hits us.
The problem for them and everyone else is that the health system and in particular ICU's will be overflowing, and those who can't get in for severe Covid infection or any other serious illness requiring ICU admission will suffer and are more likely to die of whatever affliction they are suffering from.
The waverers, those waiting for their mythical preferred brand of vaccine, and those who previously couldn't be bothered, which is a large group, are now getting the jab. Those who seriously don't want it can still remain unvaccinated.
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Yes, technically correct.Nothing is mandatory including abiding by any law one chooses to break. Having to conform to mandated vaccination in order to be able to earn a living(work) trade(shop), socialise(go out in public)is pretty much as close as it comes though as far as participating in society is concerned,so I don't know why people put this semantics based argument out there as if its some point of principle.
To your second point, arent you assuming everyone of the overwhelming small minority who opt against vaccination are likely to not only catch covid, but also require hospitalisation contrary to all statistics?
Why, or how do you think this small minority represent any greater a strain on the healthcare system than that which it has already gone through and survived quite easily pre-vaccine?
Why do people consider non-vaccinated covid admissions as lesser deserving of hospital beds than people suffering any ailment bought about through "non-ideal" lifestyle choices, or vaccinated covid admissions?
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