Cox v Gawn

[Partridge]

Matty Lloyd is on team Cox.

I would still take prime Cox over prime Gawn, probably because i'm an Eagles fan, but Gawn's longevity is telling now. Cox. Dean Cox

Dean Cox

Age

44

Ht

203cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.0

1star

playing a third of his career with Nic Nat impacts on his total stats/AA's etc.,

Would have been good to see Gawn have a Nic Nat type come through 4 or 5 years ago and see what he could do up forward more. Imagine would have seen him kick 25 goals plus in a few seasons.

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Separate to the discussion, don't necessarily agree with the order of the players, but overall it's pretty good.

 

[theprospector]

Clicked on this out of shock because I thought it was about Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

35

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

. Carry on

 

[danster168]

He had 69 turnovers this year and 237 kicks, considering very few handballs would result in turnovers, he's averaging almost 1 turnover for every 3 kicks he takes.

I said he turns the ball over directly 1 in every 4 kicks he has, and another 1 in every 4 kicks results in a 50/ 50 ball (33% chance it goes to a teammate, 33% chance it goes to the opposition, 33% it's a drawn ball that goes to the umpire for a restart in play).

Chat GPT tells me this means I predicted he has a 33.25% chance of generating a turnover per kick in total, so I was on.

I don't care if he turns it over a little bit less than other ruckmen per kick they have.

As a ruckmen, all the kicks he takes are easy kicks, and yet he has diabolical turnovers galore.

What I am trying to say is that it's in any teams best interest to have their ruckmen kicking the ball as little as possible as they all have zero skill and turn the ball over when attempting basic kicks 1 in every 3 times.

Gawn might be "elite" in the context of ruckmen, but it's only because the standard is so low.

People are going to laugh in 50 years time when they see highlights of the supposed "great" Max Gawn who kicks the ball worse than people who have barely kicked a ball in their life.

He is not an elite player, only because ruckmen are so shit, is he able to make an All Australian team where he is so out of his depth standing next to the other players.

Ruckmen are terrible, they are all failed key-position players.

If you are actually good at football and 208cm, you are playing key-forward like Sam Darcy and winning games off your own foot every second week.

Instead, Max, like pretty much all the other ruckmen, have zero mobility, zero coordination, zero skill, and get put in a position where the only requirements are being 'big' and being able to run.

Dean Cox from what I can remember could actually use the ball well by foot, and had success when used as a deep forward target, something Max can't do with his embarrassing ability to routinely miss set shots 15 metres out directly in front.

lol. gotta be up there with the dumbest post I've ever read on the internet in 20 years. Zero coordination says one of the greatest contested marks in the league for the past decade. Team literally change their whole game plan around not kicking it to Gawn. No-one was doing that for Dean Cox.

If you like good foot skills, put Tim English against Max Gawn and watch him get rag dolled all bloody day.

Why you're saying is equivalent to saying Cyril Rioli is only good because he is fast. Yes, Max Gawn is good because he's a giant and is an elite runner, elite ruck craft, elite mark, and finds the ball around the ground. He's also a big game performer and an amazing leader of men. Go back to school.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Clicked on this out of shock because I thought it was about Mason Cox. Carry on

Had to give Gawn a chance!

 

[KanesBurner]

Voted Gawn but this is actually a really good one for the polls board.

Cox would be a menace in the modern transition style of game play as an extra mid.

 

[Mighty Eagles]

This is genuinely a good BigFooty debate. Bravo

 

[Trav 20]

Gawn BOG against a worthy younger opponent (TDK) at 34 in 2026.

You might not like it but he really is the greatest ruckman of all time.

 

[omgfridge]

Think i casted my vote years ago but have now changed. Dean Cox

Dean Cox

Age

44

Ht

203cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.0

1star

did some amazing things but think Gawn clears.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Gawn BOG against a worthy younger opponent (TDK) at 34 in 2026.

You might not like it but he really is the greatest ruckman of all time.

A note of caution.

1. Gawn has "only" played 248 games despite being 34. Cox played 290 dispute his last game being at 33 years 22 days. The WA travel tax is real and certainly impacted on the back ~70 odd games of Cox's career.

2. I hate best of all time, but Gawn certainly has argument for best of the modern era.

 

[Bluelegs]

A note of caution.

1. Gawn has "only" played 248 games despite being 34. Cox played 290 dispute his last game being at 33 years 22 days. The WA travel tax is real and certainly impacted on the back ~70 odd games of Cox's career.

2. I hate best of all time, but Gawn certainly has argument for best of the modern era.

Max really had a rough start to his career. Two ACLs and the darts wouldn't have helped didn't break out until mid 2015 when he finally cemented his spot in the side. Hadn't even played 30 games five years in.

 

[Blackas87]

A note of caution.

1. Gawn has "only" played 248 games despite being 34. Cox played 290 dispute his last game being at 33 years 22 days. The WA travel tax is real and certainly impacted on the back ~70 odd games of Cox's career.

2. I hate best of all time, but Gawn certainly has argument for best of the modern era.

David Mundy played 373 games, Pavlich played 353 games. Sandilands was 36 years 254 days when he last played.

The WA travel tax is a myth.

People are built different, some peoples bodies just wear down at a younger age, although Cox I think could have kept playing.