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Eh, CA would have got of the tour one way or another. 6 years and counting since the last time CA willingly had a series against them. Hopefully this might put some pressure on CA to treat them with some respect
If the players all go on strike, there is no need for a CA, and Sutherland has to resign.
Then all the players come back, and we all live happily ever after.
#goawaysutherland.
 
Is Sutherland really refusing to get involved, or is that a misquoting or misrepresentation of what he's said?

I haven't followed everything forensically, so it's a genuine question.

But to me, the idea that the freakin' boss of CA would not get intimately involved in a mess like this is completely preposterous.
 

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CA/CA board made a decision a long time ago that former board member Kevin Roberts would be the lead negotiator of this whole thing, and they're not backing down on that. I suspect Sutherland won't intervene unless the board tells him to do so. Clearly that's not happening anytime soon because there's no reason for the board to start backing down from what they're aiming for. The things that are being lost right now (Aus A tour, wages) are only affecting the players.
 
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Is Sutherland really refusing to get involved, or is that a misquoting or misrepresentation of what he's said?

I haven't followed everything forensically, so it's a genuine question.

But to me, the idea that the freakin' boss of CA would not get intimately involved in a mess like this is completely preposterous.

Not really.

Its the Chairman's appointed man doing the negotiations. How many CEOs go against the Chairman?
 
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Is it only the revenue sharing that's the sticking point, or is there something else?
yeah basically. The other big one is that the players are owed a fair bit of money from the revenue sharing that CA are trying like hell to include in the next MOU, which seems deeply unfair to the retired players from the 2012-2017 period. It's not really an issue, because both sides agree on it for the next MOU, but the fact that the women players weren't in the previous MOU is coming up a bit. Clarke had the perfectly valid idea that they should again just roll over the MOU for the next year but that's slightly not ideal because the women aren't included in it, while Chip Le Grand had a weird hit piece on the male players in the Australian today about the owed money

Given CA always underestimate how much the players will get, I think you can perhaps understand why the players don't want to move to a "fixed" amount....
 

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Statement by the ACA regarding the Australia A Tour

06 Jul 2017

It is with great frustration that with no progress towards resolving the current dispute, Australia A players confirm they will not tour South Africa.

This decision is made in support of more than 200 male and female players who are now unemployed, and is consistent with Sunday’s ACA Executive meeting resolutions.

By making this call, the Australia A players have sacrificed their own ambitions for the collective; an incredibly selfless act that shows their strength and overall commitment to the group.

All players are deeply disappointed at the behaviour of CA which forces this course of action, given the players would rather be playing for their country.

CA refuse to attend mediation or offer any genuine flexibility in the MOU negotiations.

And without mediation it’s hard to see how there can be the progress necessary to reach agreement.

The players want to make sure all men and women who play the game are treated fairly, and that grassroots funding is not drained by a top-heavy bureaucracy.

The ACA again calls on common sense to prevail and for the CA CEO to attend mediation.

The ACA sits at the table awaiting CA’s genuine participation.

Sunday’s resolutions are:

4. The players have resolved that, unless contractually obliged, no male or female players intend to play for a Cricket Australia (CA) team whilst fellow players remain unemployed due to the absence of an MOU.

5. All Australian professional cricketers are not obliged to and are unavailable to Tour South Africa as a part of the Australia A team without an agreed MOU.

This decision has been made consistent with resolution 4 above that, unless contractually obliged, no player intends to Tour for a Cricket Australia team whilst others are unemployed courtesy of the expired MOU.

http://www.auscricket.com.au/news-m...ent-by-the-aca-regarding-the-australia-a-tour
 

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Cricket Australia's David Peever is living in Narnia

by Joe Aston Jul 2 2017 at 5:34 PM Updated Jul 2 2017 at 8:50 PM

How did Australian cricket get here? Thanks to the truly unique individuals populating Cricket Australia's headquarters at 60 Jolimont Street. They're all straight out of Narnia.

James Sutherland, chief executive of 17 years, has been overtly absent from negotiations with the players. And given his bargaining team's performance, he'll be grateful for the free pass handed to him by chairman David Peever, who wanted this to be the great audition for CEO-in-waiting Kevin Roberts. Pity the former Adidas executive has played this one like Victor Trumper on debut at Nottingham.

On Sunday the Australian Cricketers' Association effectively called off this month's Australia A tour of South Africa (valuable preparation for the Test team's tour there in March). Only an English schoolboy in the back of a wardrobe feasting on psychotropic Turkish delight would expect this to pan out differently.

So is Peever and his board (including a key architect of the current revenue sharing model, Mark Taylor) hallucinating or are they all just waiting for Aslan?

CA wants to decouple players' pay from the growth in the sports revenue pie, and link it instead to surplus revenue. In plain English, Mr Tumnus and friends want the sport's current and future stars (its only real assets) not to get a share of the cash cricket actually generates (tax-free, as a not-for-profit), but what's left over after Jolimont Street spends however much of it they want to. And on what? Well, in 2016, of the $340 million pie: $34.9 million on "media, marketing and communications" (because they're just so stellar at that), $56.7 million on "operations" and $32.2 million on "administration". Oh, and $5.6 million on executive salaries, the distribution of which is audaciously murky. See, Cricket Australia's eight non-executive directors are unpaid (AFL Commissioners, comparatively, are paid $20,000 but most donate their stipend to game development). Which means only Peever, Sutherland and an unspecified number of senior CA employees "with the authority for the strategic direction and management of" CA, share the loot. CA, true to form, refuses to identify or number them. But, for example, at the accounting body CPA Australia (pie: $180 million), its $5.5 million remuneration pool was shared between 12 paid directors and just three executives. If, say, CA's KMP pool is shared between Peever and three execs, that would be, well, hard to swallow for the so-called greedy players holding out on them.

In any campaign for change, you establish a burning platform. That's communications 101. CA's top brass, no doubt still figuring out how to cook their own breakfasts, has utterly failed to do so. There is no impetus to change cricket's existing revenue model because nobody thinks it is broken. There is no howling public pressure to divert professional athletes' pay into grassroots cricket because not even the clubs themselves are saying they're currently underfunded (and if they were, what was CA doing with their 74 per cent of the growing pie? Spending it on indentured chefs?).

Despite CA's attempts, the players cannot be divided and conquered. If anything, this situation is ripe for a broadcaster (like Nine, or indeed a private equity shop – we hear TPG is looking for a new media deal) to sweep in and licence the players directly. Nine and Ten will start auctioning their advertising for this summer any week now. Why not deal directly with those who'll be on screen? What's the ECB going to do? Not come?

After sitting at the feet of the union-busting Leigh Clifford at Rio Tinto (interestingly enough Jacqueline Hey is both a member of Big Leigh's Qantas board and Peever's at CA), Peever might romanticise industrial disputation. But it's one thing replacing some numbskull on a forklift at a Hunter coal mine and another entirely treating Steve Smith or Mitchell Starc, not only elite athletes but national heroes, like numbers on a spreadsheet. Does Peever have Roberts on the phone to Chris Corrigan's old mates Fynwest in Dubai? "Listen I need half a dozen boys fit enough to sprint the Nullarbor. Nothing too prescriptive – just 190 centimetres tall and can bowl late in-swinging Yorkers at 150 clicks all day into the wind. Be good if they could bat too. Oh, and I need them yesterday." Fantasy. Straight from the back of a wardrobe, where it's always winter and never Christmas.

http://www.afr.com/brand/rear-windo...id-peever-is-living-in-narnia-20170702-gx330q
 

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i guess one thing he could have added to that article, given his stance, is to bring across some of the details from Paul Marsh's interview.

Like, CA are trying to get the players to switch from a "you get 25% of the pie" method to a "you get 150 million of the pie" (which is meant to reflect 25% but hey if we undershoot on the figure, like we always do, you don't get anything) method (numbers are not meant to be accurate) but if the ACA tries to understand how CA have come to that number figure, CA says they can't provide detailed financial numbers because a lot of their revenue steams (TV rights, etc) are about to re-negotiated.....thereby basically showing why the 25% of the pie method is suitable! (I think CA have started providing numbers, but it's a bit late...)

I'll be interested to see how long the MOU goes when it is signed...
 
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Good article.

**** CA - the ******s hit the gold mine with the BBL, apart from that, their performance over the last decade has been terrible.

Good on the players, if that article is correct, you can't question their stance.

According to CA's figures provided to the ACA, accrued losses of $33m. And rising.
 
England to retain the Ashes for a long time if this keeps going!

Good article.

**** CA - the ******s hit the gold mine with the BBL, apart from that, their performance over the last decade has been terrible.

I've been saying Cricket Australia have been poor for 15+ years

Now everyone is jumping on the bandwagon!
 

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I don't know why anyone would choose playing for a franchise over your own country, personally I think it a disgrace.
 
I don't know why anyone would choose playing for a franchise over your own country, personally I think it a disgrace.
I don't know why anyone would think it's about that. Of course they'd prefer to play for Australia. They're just electing to help the domestic players get a well earned pay rise
 
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I don't know why anyone would think it's about that. Of course they'd prefer to play for Australia. They're just electing to help the domestic players get a well earned pay rise

Much as I like Shield cricket if average wages of 240k a year that is been thrown about are true, shield cricketers are financially very well compensated.
 

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From last December:

CA claims the average state player receives a $99,000 retainer while BBL players average $78,000. If a player is involved in 10 Sheffield Shield matches and six one-day games they can earn another $58,000 on average, based on figures in the organisation’s submission.

The minimum state retainer is $61,800 and the BBL retainer is $20,000, according to figures from the Australian Cricketers Association’s submission.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...k=115f62917e009bc4a978950099b099c6-1499531723
 
The longer this stalemate goes on the worse the consequences for the game in Australia, as the cricketing public will start dropping off their interest levels.

Neither side are covering themselves in any glory the way they are conducting themselves and going about the process.

ACA rolling out guys like Warner and Watson to speak is counter productive, as IMO , they come across as total knobs.
Warner has always been a flippant disrespectful anti establishment guys and Watson has form being a long time serial whinging sook.

Just as CA's seemingly intransigent attitude is also putting the public off side.

At the moment its resembling a spiteful school yard name calling , finger pointing fracas.

From my perspective it would be nice if both parties just STFU in the war in the media and got themselves behind closed doors, as a matter of urgency, and thrashed this thing out.
 

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