Cricket Discussion - Part 3

[Duck Farmer]

My point is that it will not be long before the calls go out for Inglis to replace Carey, it is all so predictable.

SA parochialism aside, is this a problem?

 

[raptalia]

SA parochialism aside, is this a problem?

Not really, simply countering the bias we get from the Eastern States. Carey is doing the job and there is room for both Carey and Inglis in the side but that will not stop the calls for Inglis to replace Carey. Inglis is possibly a better batsman but Carey is a better keeper.

 

[philreich]

I think Carey has done nothing wrong, so replacing him as keeper while he's still at the top of his game would be unjust.

 

[philreich]

LOL someone just wrote on the main thread, "Can we enforce a second follow on?"

Well done to both our teams, after registering massive innings victories.

 

[Grave Danger]

Today I learnt that Melbourne and Galle are "on opposite sides of the globe" - I heard this on two different television networks, so that's confirmed.

 

[VineValerian]

Pommie media blasting our men's cricketers for "stats padding" against a minnow cricketing country in the Sri Lankans.

Of course they are 100% correct. And of course they've never done that before themselves either!

I actually think our women's cricket side is more blatant than the men at this. The brazen hussies

Been stats padding to the extreme against the worst sporting team I've ever seen - the English women's cricketers

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Pommie media blasting our men's cricketers for "stats padding" against a minnow cricketing country in the Sri Lankans.

Of course they are 100% correct. And of course they've never done that before themselves either!

I actually think our women's cricket side is more blatant than the men at this. The brazen hussies

Been stats padding to the extreme against the worst sporting team I've ever seen - the English women's cricketers

God I can't wait for the Lankans to next beat them.

 

[philreich]

Pommie media blasting our men's cricketers for "stats padding" against a minnow cricketing country in the Sri Lankans.

Of course they are 100% correct. And of course they've never done that before themselves either!

I actually think our women's cricket side is more blatant than the men at this. The brazen hussies

Been stats padding to the extreme against the worst sporting team I've ever seen - the English women's cricketers

They should be blasting their own girls for their fielding at the MCG!!!

 

[Duck Farmer]

Pommie media blasting our men's cricketers for "stats padding" against a minnow cricketing country in the Sri Lankans.

It's just a bit of minnow-on-minnow rivalry.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Women's Ashes

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Bring Konstas in for the second Test, Head at 3.

Have a mental health rest Marnus.

Boland for Murphy.

 

[raptalia]

I am bemused that Shane Warne never won an Alan Border Medal yet Shane Watson won twice and Mitchell Marsh won last year. No justice in that.

 

[RangaInTeal]

I am bemused that Shane Warne never won an Alan Border Medal yet Shane Watson won twice and Mitchell Marsh won last year. No justice in that.

The Medal came into vein ‘late’ or recently, Warne didn’t play much ODI cricket in the back half of his career, injury and that pesky pill mum gave him saw to that. There was ‘always’ a rift between him and the rest of the playing group, possibly driven by S.Waugh if rumours are to be believed, and you question the politics behind the voting.

In Watson and Marsh’s cases their T20 cricket was pretty good from memory in those years. One is not like the other.

Warnes respect was built from the eye test and statistics, like Bradman. As time moves forward, it is up to us as nuffs of game to educate the next generation of the immense talent that was S.K.Warne.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

2025 Allan Border Medal Top 10:
Travis Head 208
Josh Hazlewood 158 Pat Cummins 147 Steve Smith 105 Mitchell Starc 87
Alex Carey 84 Adam Zampa 82 Cameron Green 75 Xavier Bartlett 55 Marcus Stoinis 50 Mitch Marsh 50

 

[raptalia]

A Port Adelaide Football Club Ambassador to boot. Well done Travis.

 

[Grave Danger]

Despite the feverous speculation, Marnus has avoided the chop and Cooper Connolly will replace Todd Murphy instead..

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/marnus-labuschagnes-fate-locked-in-as-debutant-looms-for-second-test/news-story/195e5cba8a2620d7ba6ca821080f7a28

 

[Rising Power]

Stoinis retiring from ODI cricket. Gonna miss those once in a blue moon scores of 20+

 

[philreich]

Surely this innings puts paid to any thought of Carey losing his spot!!!

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Carey scores his second test ton with 2 sweeps for 4 in the same over off Jayasuriya.

Deserves it after bloody Cummins robbed him of a ton when he made 98 not out in Christchurch last March when he and Marsh - 80 - saved Oz, when they were 4/34 and 5/80 chasing 279 to win. Cummins could have farmed the strike a bit rather than taking a lot of the strike and smacking 4's.

 

[glitch01]

Surely this innings puts paid to any thought of Carey losing his spot!!!

This has been a class century.
In earlier than normal and batting with an established batter he hasn’t looked like getting out.


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[RussellEbertHandball]

These are the Oz designated wicketkeeper batting stats, when Carey was 102 not out.

Apart from Gilchrist, it looks like Oz long term keepers get 1 hundred for every 4 to 6 fifties they score.

I checked how many 90's Oz keepers have made to see how much disadvantage that 98 not out for Carey might make.

4 Marsh
3 Gilchrist
2 Carey and Haddin
1 Paine, Tallon, Phillips and Healy.

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Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	100	50	0
AC Gilchrist	1999-2008	96	137	20	5570	204*	47.60	17	26	14
IA Healy	1988-1999	119	182	23	4356	161*	27.39	4	22	18
RW Marsh	1970-1984	96	150	13	3633	132	26.51	3	16	12
BJ Haddin	2008-2015	66	112	13	3266	169	32.98	4	18	8
AT Carey	2021-2025	39	57	8	1703	111	34.75	2	9	3
TD Paine	2010-2021	35	57	10	1534	92	32.63	0	9	4
WAS Oldfield	1920-1937	54	80	17	1427	65*	22.65	0	4	9
WB Phillips	1984-1986	18	34	1	961	120	29.12	1	5	1
ATW Grout	1957-1966	51	67	8	890	74	15.08	0	3	11
MS Wade	2012-2017	22	38	7	886	106	28.58	2	4	1

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Carey ends the day on 139 not out.

Only other higher scores by an Oz Keeper.
Gilchrist 6 scores between 144 and 204
Healy's 161 not out v West Indies in Brisbane in 1996-97 series, I went to that test and he smacked it everywhere. Oz won.
Haddin's 169 v NZ in Adelaide November 2008. Oz won by an Innings.

 

[philreich]

Australia now 9 for 984 for the series.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Smith with his 36th century joins Root and Dravid in the top 7. 3 more and he could go past Sangakkara.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Smith with his 36th century joins Root and Dravid in the top 7. 3 more and he could go past Sangakkara.

I knew Tendulkar has 51 and Kallis and Ponting have in the 40's but had to look up where Smith sits in that top 7 and top 10. He has a great conversion rate and is behind Younis Khan and fractionally behind Kallis.

Given the way Smith is batting he could do it in the 3 tests in the Caribbean in June and July, after the World Test Championship final.

Test Cricket - Players with Most 50+ Scores

Test Cricket - Batsmen with most 50+ Plus Scores

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Player	Country	Matches	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	100s	50s	50+	Avg
1	S R Tendulkar​	India​	200​	329​	33​	15921​	248*​	51​	68​	119​	53.79​
2	J H Kallis​	South Africa​	166​	280​	40​	13289​	224​	45​	58​	103​	55.37​
3	R T Ponting​	Australia​	168​	287​	29​	13378​	257​	41​	62​	103​	51.85​
4	K C Sangakkara​	Sri Lanka​	134​	233​	17​	12400​	319​	38​	52​	90​	57.41​
5	R Dravid​	India​	164​	286​	32​	13288​	270​	36​	63​	99​	52.31​
6	S P D Smith*​	Australia​	116​	206​	26​	10260​	239​	36​	41​	77​	57.00​
7	J E Root*​	England​	152​	278​	23​	12972​	262​	36​	65​	101​	50.87​
8	S M Gavaskar​	India​	125​	214​	16​	10122​	236*​	34​	45​	79​	51.12​
9	B C Lara​	West Indies​	131​	232​	6​	11953​	400*​	34​	48​	82​	52.89​
10	D P M D Jayawardene​	Sri Lanka​	149​	252​	15​	11814​	374​	34​	50​	84​	49.85​
11	Younis Khan​	Pakistan​	118​	213​	19​	10099​	313​	34​	33​	67​	52.06​