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swingdog

Norm Smith Medallist
Aug 3, 2007
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Let's not get carried away.

Australian scores in Windies tests at the WACA in the glory years:

1984: 78 & 223
1988: 395/8d & 234
1993: 119 & 178
1997: 243 & 194

They were a fantastic side but batsmen still scored runs. It's not like every series was a 5-0 whitewash. Plenty of times we scored 300 or 400 at other venues.
Not saying they didn't make runs just that it was tougher. Had to go back and look at that Perth test from 1988. Had forgotten, a century from Graeme Wood a two-inning hat trick from mere and we still lost after scoring almost 400!
 

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I like the way we think pitches are now all roads and just completely ignore the fact that a draw as a result has never been less frequent than it is right now.

As much as a lot of you don't want to admit it there is a heap of selective thinking when it comes to cricket "back in the day". Particularly in the 80s some of the pitches that were played on were similar to what Karen Rolton Oval has been like in the Shield recently. Just flat, slow nothingness.
 

Gethelred

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I like the way we think pitches are now all roads and just completely ignore the fact that a draw as a result has never been less frequent than it is right now.

As much as a lot of you don't want to admit it there is a heap of selective thinking when it comes to cricket "back in the day". Particularly in the 80s some of the pitches that were played on were similar to what Karen Rolton Oval has been like in the Shield recently. Just flat, slow nothingness.
Not really talking about the women's game so much, but I think we need to make a distinction between people complaining about a pitch being flat, and people complaining about a pitch being flat due to a drop-in wicket.

For the former complaint, you're absolutely right; there have been stinkers in the past due to flat surfaces, and we don't remember the bad bits as much as the good. But the latter complaint is as much taking issue with the loss of character in the wickets due to the proliferation of AFL and their preference for drop-ins, and I'd argue that a colossal part of why the Shield isn't all that and a bag of chips at the moment is due to the loss of each state's distinctive pitches. Shield bats don't have to diversify as much to make runs all over the country, where once they'd need to be able to play low and slow (Melbourne), spinning and roads (Adelaide and Sydney), bouncy and fast (Brisbane and Perth).

I'm not a groundsman so I don't know nearly enough about the evolving technology there, but they desperately need to figure out a way to produce these regional differences in wicket again. The only reason the Shield isn't considered a viable option for the broadcasters if the Ashes didn't go ahead is because the product is perceptably less of an arena, and that would change if the pitches provided the spectacle of day 1 vicious turn or the ball whistling past the grill off a length.
 

swingdog

Norm Smith Medallist
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Not really talking about the women's game so much, but I think we need to make a distinction between people complaining about a pitch being flat, and people complaining about a pitch being flat due to a drop-in wicket.

For the former complaint, you're absolutely right; there have been stinkers in the past due to flat surfaces, and we don't remember the bad bits as much as the good. But the latter complaint is as much taking issue with the loss of character in the wickets due to the proliferation of AFL and their preference for drop-ins, and I'd argue that a colossal part of why the Shield isn't all that and a bag of chips at the moment is due to the loss of each state's distinctive pitches. Shield bats don't have to diversify as much to make runs all over the country, where once they'd need to be able to play low and slow (Melbourne), spinning and roads (Adelaide and Sydney), bouncy and fast (Brisbane and Perth).

I'm not a groundsman so I don't know nearly enough about the evolving technology there, but they desperately need to figure out a way to produce these regional differences in wicket again. The only reason the Shield isn't considered a viable option for the broadcasters if the Ashes didn't go ahead is because the product is perceptably less of an arena, and that would change if the pitches provided the spectacle of day 1 vicious turn or the ball whistling past the grill off a length.
Yep, the MCG used to have (still has?) different pitches for players to test their abilities on the different Australian pitches. Probably don't need to do that anymore. Cost saving for CA!
 

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Smith must be a nightmare for coaches trying to explain to a bunch of kids that while it works for him it probably won't for them.
The slow mo of Smith playing an orthodox stroke is quite fascinating. I think Mike Atherton broke it down during the Ashes. Everything about it looks wrong, but at the point of contact his head, feet and body weight are in the right place.
 

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