Opinion Cricket thread

[Marstermind]

I do like Swepson.

Even though he bowled a bucket of sh*t in his 2 overs.

Probably #2 behind Lyon for Test selection? Probably would have preferred Agar if this game meant much.

 

[Lomas]

Nup. Don't agree.

I respect him massively as a gun yes but I've seen more talented batsman. Most disciplined and style may be.

Lara for one, Ponting the other etc.

He can't dominate like the very best, he regularly is beaten by good bowling.

Agree. He is a gun, but smaller, roped off, grounds, flat pitches and bat technology has led to overinflated rankings. It's always hard to compare players across eras, but I have a few above him.

 

[ChoppyGun]

Agree. He is a gun, but smaller, roped off, grounds, flat pitches and bat technology has led to overinflated rankings. It's always hard to compare players across eras, but I have a few above him.

Totally agree mate.

 

[shinboner magic]

I've watched the better part of an hour watching in Hindi on Kayo. Just realized I could switch to English, will likely switch back after the recent commentary.

You should of stuck to the chips thread

 

[ChoppyGun]

It's interesting as I have Jacques Kallis in my top 3.

Gun batsmen.
Handy bowler.
Gun slip fielder.

At their best I take Kallis over Kohli if picking first for my team.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

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Probably #2 behind Lyon for Test selection? Probably would have preferred Agar if this game meant much.

Yeah, think so. Looks like he's matured. Can spin his regulation leggie, unlike Zampa. But of a weird selection still, rewarding his good Sheffield Shield form with a spot in the T20 squad.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

It's interesting as I have Jacques Kallis in my top 3.

Gun batsmen.
Handy bowler.
Gun slip fielder.

At their best I take Kallis over Kohli if picking first for my team.

Kallis is the most underated cricketer of all time.

 

[ChoppyGun]

I do like Swepson.

Even though he bowled a bucket of sh*t in his 2 overs.

Has talent.

I'd rather see that than guys at end of their careers.

 

[Lomas]

You should of stuck to the chips thread

Was clearly more in my wheelhouse.

 

[ChoppyGun]

Kallis is the most underated cricketer of all time.

Haha......where were you when I needed you years ago mate?!?

Mates used to say Watson better and drove me near crazy. (or they succeeded : )

To me Kallis is one of the best players ever.

 

[Lomas]

Kallis is the most underated cricketer of all time.

Yep. During the Aus dominated era I maintained he would be the first picked in any international side, or for us.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Haha......where were you when I needed you years ago mate?!?

Mates used to say Watson better and drove me near crazy. (or they succeeded : )

To me Kallis is one of the best players ever.

Suffered because he could be quite robotic in everything he did, boringly good.

 

[shinboner magic]

Was clearly more in my wheelhouse.

You hide it well mate

 

[ChoppyGun]

Do you remember Kallis v Roach SpiderBurton22?

 

[ChoppyGun]

Suffered because he could be quite robotic in everything he did, boringly good.

Yeah a bit robotic but I loved his no fuss attitude to be honest.

Much rather watch him bat, than Smith gesturing every stroke and carrying on like a tool every ball.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Do you remember Kallis v Roach SpiderBurton22?

Nah, not off the top of my head. I've got a shit memory for stuff like that, but if I saw a replay it would come back to me.

 

[ChoppyGun]

Nah, not off the top of my head. I've got a sh*t memory for stuff like that, but if I saw a replay it would come back to me.

 

[Marstermind]

Agree. He is a gun, but smaller, roped off, grounds, flat pitches and bat technology has led to overinflated rankings. It's always hard to compare players across eras, but I have a few above him.

Who, from the era of smaller roped off grounds, flat pitches and bat technology is above him in all 3 formats? I'll call that the era from the advent of T20 so let's say 2005-2020.

I'd say Smith for sure. ABdeV yes. Williamson? Warner??? He's better than Root or any other from England. Again, in really good company there though. From the 90s onward then he's behind Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting for mine. Sangakkara is under-rated. Kallis was better as an all-round cricketer.

It's a good debate. Was Dravid better? Certainly better at Test level for mine given the conditions he played under. Could you argue that in Test cricket Pujara is better? If a batsman getting out would cost you your life, would you rather Pujara batting for you or Kohli?

 

[ChoppyGun]

Roach hit Kallis with a beauty.

Kallis just got on with it whilst Roach lost the plot.

 

[Marstermind]

Roach hit Kallis with a beauty.

Kallis just got on with it whilst Roach lost the plot.

Roach also got Ponting and I reckon took half a season off his career.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

That's awesome.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Who, from the era of smaller roped off grounds, flat pitches and bat technology is above him in all 3 formats? I'll call that the era from the advent of T20 so let's say 2005-2020.

I'd say Smith for sure. ABdeV yes. Williamson? Warner??? He's better than Root or any other from England. Again, in really good company there though. From the 90s onward then he's behind Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting for mine. Sangakkara is under-rated. Kallis was better as an all-round cricketer.

It's a good debate. Was Dravid better? Certainly better at Test level for mine given the conditions he played under. Could you argue that in Test cricket Pujara is better? If a batsman getting out would cost you your life, would you rather Pujara batting for you or Kohli?

White ball cricket, Kholi is king.

Red ball cricket, he is very good but not top echelon.

 

[Lomas]

Who, from the era of smaller roped off grounds, flat pitches and bat technology is above him in all 3 formats? I'll call that the era from the advent of T20 so let's say 2005-2020.

I'd say Smith for sure. ABdeV yes. Williamson? Warner??? He's better than Root or any other from England. Again, in really good company there though. From the 90s onward then he's behind Tendulkar, Lara and Ponting for mine. Sangakkara is under-rated. Kallis was better as an all-round cricketer.

It's a good debate. Was Dravid better? Certainly better at Test level for mine given the conditions he played under. Could you argue that in Test cricket Pujara is better? If a batsman getting out would cost you your life, would you rather Pujara batting for you or Kohli?

I'm a bit of a test tragic, so will admit to undervaluing him in white ball cricket. I'd put him behind all the 90's guys you mentioned, loved Sangkarkrara as well. Just feel that the limited overs game overvalues his talent.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

I'm a bit of a test tragic, so will admit to undervaluing him in white ball cricket. I'd put him behind all the 90's guys you mentioned, loved Sangkarkrara as well. Just feel that the limited overs game overvalues his talent.

Yeah, you have to separate the red and white ball. Unfortunately with the volume of Indians fans, the narrative becomes Kholi is King at everthing.

 

[Nate7]

King Corey - thoughts on "on-reekes" ?