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They also had to call on four sub fielders. They're extremely depleted bud.

True, I haven't denied that for a second.

However, today proved that Pant could have been on the field yesterday. Conveniently, they had an excuse to sub in the (significantly) better keeper and they took it. If the injury was debilitating enough for that to be a genuine substitution, the (significantly) better batsman wouldn't have been able to make a brilliant 97.

Pant. wasn't. hampered.
 
True, I haven't denied that for a second.

However, today proved that Pant could have been on the field yesterday. Conveniently, they had an excuse to sub in the (significantly) better keeper and they took it. If the injury was debilitating enough for that to be a genuine substitution, the (significantly) better batsman wouldn't have been able to make a brilliant 97.

Pant. wasn't. hampered.

Do you think that 24 hours rest and some nice pain injections would change a person's perception of pain from an impact injury?

I think it's plausible :) he looked in legitimate pain when he first got injured and probably got a hit of the good stuff and a day of icing to reduce swelling. When Jadeja did his finger I imagine those efforts would have doubled.
 
Do others find our sledging not at all funny?

I think it's just stupid and makes the players appear foolish.
sledging is looking to distract to get an advantage, if foolish works, then it works.

I don't think we need to be turning up stump mic to just hear every different angle they try with it. But then I don't even like player interviews.
 

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Do others find our sledging not at all funny?

I think it's just stupid and makes the players appear foolish.

Yeah not a big fan of it whenever I do hear some sledging in the stump mic. Seems to me that they want to be jerks but obviously have been told to reign it in since...the incident.
 
sledging is looking to distract to get an advantage, if foolish works, then it works.

I don't think we need to be turning up stump mic to just hear every different angle they try with it. But then I don't even like player interviews.

I just think the constant talk is not really sledging though, just stupid.

I'm all for a fast bowler giving a few words but what Wade and Marnus crap on about I just find irritating.
 
I just think the constant talk is not really sledging though, just stupid.

I'm all for a fast bowler giving a few words but what Wade and Marnus crap on about I just find irritating.

I've always thought that something beats saying nothing though...nothing worse than when it's dead quiet in the field on a 35 degree day.
 
Do you think that 24 hours rest and some nice pain injections would change a person's perception of pain from an impact injury?

Yes, of course, but not to the extent we saw. Doing what he did today clearly indicates that Pant shouldn't have been off for the entire Australian innings.

Worked out well for them. Saha took heaps of catches. Marnus would probably have made a ton if Pant was keeping.

Look, I'm not overly fussed about it, I'm just not willing to entertain justification of the clearly opportunistic application of the sub rule.
 
I think our bowlers seem a great group of blokes.

Some of our batsman are simply hard to like imo.
 
I've always thought that something beats saying nothing though...nothing worse than when it's dead quiet in the field on a 35 degree day.

Oh yeah I'm not saying be quiet. But use sledging properly don't do the kindergarten stuff these clowns go on about.

Support the bowler and occasionally have a dig at the batsman.
 
Yes, of course, but not to the extent we saw. Doing what he did today clearly indicates that Pant shouldn't have been off for the entire Australian innings.

Worked out well for them. Saha took heaps of catches. Marnus would probably have made a ton if Pant was keeping.

Look, I'm not overly fussed about it, I'm just not willing to entertain justification of the clearly opportunistic application of the sub rule.

I've seen it happen IRL a few times (one of them myself - cracked wrist in the first week, one of our best fielders subbed in and took a few rippers in the slips - I came out to bat the following week and actually hit them pretty well).

I'm not saying that is directly comparable, but just that you'd be surprised what an injured bloke can do when you throw a bat in his hand and some pain killers IMO
 
I've seen it happen IRL a few times (one of them myself - cracked wrist in the first week, one of our best fielders subbed in and took a few rippers in the slips - I came out to bat the following week and actually hit them pretty well).

I'm not saying that is directly comparable, but just that you'd be surprised what an injured bloke can do when you throw a bat in his hand and some pain killers IMO

I wouldn't even be questioning it if Pant came back after a week ...
 
I have no issue with Saha coming in to keep.

However in my view you are out of the match from there and they bat 1 down.

But I can see both sides it's just too easy to exploit imo
 

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I wouldn't even be questioning it if Pant came back after a week ...

Well I can assure you my wrist was sorer after a week than it was at the time, and almost certainly more serious than his injury. You just kind of forget pain for the most part when you're out there batting.

Although Vihari may disagree with me...
 
I have no issue with Saha coming in to keep.

However in my view you are out of the match from there and they bat 1 down.

But I can see both sides it's just too easy to exploit imo

Yeah look if this happened to happen frequently then sure maybe it's worth a look at, but at this stage I just give injured blokes the benefit of the doubt.
 

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3 wickets in 3 sessions of the final innings is deplorable.

And the first came before 10.30. 5 wickets in 4 sessions. Very poor performance. Starc just rolling his arm over and Lyon not getting the job done in the 4th innings again.
 
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