Opinion Cricket thread

[archereleven]

OMG... For a test to end like that!!!

LOLOLOL

 

[archereleven]

I might be old fashioned, but i support the enforced follow on whole heartedly, i heard Ian Chappell saying exactly that too.

Im just guessing, but these days im sure they think about TV/numbers through the gate when deciding...

 

[King Corey]

Im just guessing, but these days im sure they think about TV/numbers through the gate when deciding...

Or 55 overs left our blokes cooked.

 

[D23D]

Have to admire the Pakis - showing more heart here than we did. Question is why we declared? Why give them a sniff? Smith's captaincy might just about be teetering if we lose this. No follow on was more about the crowd and playing an extra day instead of winning a game.

I would have liked to see us make another 50 before declaring personally.
Still, great effort by Pakistan to make 450 in their second innings

 

[archereleven]

Or 55 overs left our blokes cooked.

Yeah we wouldnt want the bowlers to over exert for their 700k a year would we.

Nearly 300 ahead, you should follow on every time imo. The bowlers get their rest when they have an extra day off.

lol at Smith saying he wouldnt follow on if he had his chance again. Way to close for comfort and would of looked like a right knob head if we lost. He would of been belted from pillar to post from the press.

I reckon the day/night factor had a bit to do with it too. Wanting to get quick wickets at night instead of making the lead 500-550 and well out of reach.

 

[Firestarter]

I don't remember the last time we enforced a follow on.

That needs to change in more ways than Scott needs to create a plan B.

 

[King Corey]

I don't remember the last time we enforced a follow on.

That needs to change in more ways than Scott needs to create a plan B.

Kolkata 2001.

I'd like to say it was the biggest choke of the year but North v * took the honours.

 

[Firestarter]

Kolkata 2001.

I'd like to say it was the biggest choke of the year but North v * took the honours.

My eyes. They're bleeding clear blood.

 

[archereleven]

Kolkata 2001.

I'd like to say it was the biggest choke of the year but North v * took the honours.

The last enforced follow on was Michael Clarke V England at Sydney i think.

That Kolkata test match that we lost, Steve Waugh had 7 chances to enforce the follow on after that game and did so all 7 times and won every single game. It is 'trendy' not to enforce these days and will bite someone on the ass soon.

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

Good effort with 5 Batsmen, 3 Bowlers & the shittest Australian Wicket Keeper in history.

Out: Maddinson, Lyon, Wade
In: Head, Sayers, Neville

Em: Cummins Pattinson Patterson

 

[darko]

Head or Patterson need to come in. I'm leaning towards Travis Head.

 

[muttley45]

Good effort with 5 Batsmen, 3 Bowlers & the shittest Australian Wicket Keeper in history.

Out: Maddinson, Lyon, Wade
In: Head, Sayers, Neville

Em: Cummins Pattinson Patterson

At least 2 of those outs will stop the "nice gary's" completely

 

[King Corey]

The last enforced follow on was Michael Clarke V England at Sydney i think.

That Kolkata test match that we lost, Steve Waugh had 7 chances to enforce the follow on after that game and did so all 7 times and won every single game. It is 'trendy' not to enforce these days and will bite someone on the ass soon.

I like the follow on was just posting the equivalent of jamming my head in a vice.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Yea we definitely enforced a follow on in aus under Clarke. I remember the bitching from crick aus and nine about it making the game shorter

 

[Firestarter]

Yea we definitely enforced a follow on in aus under Clarke. I remember the bitching from crick aus and nine about it making the game shorter

Figures.

Bastards got their wish this time anyway but almost at the ultimate cost.

 

[tazaa]

Follow on is based on tv ratings isn't it

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Smith did the right thing not enforcing the follow on. There was so much time left in the game. Give the bowlers some recovery time and takes the game completely away from the Pakistanis. The only thing you could criticize Smith for was declaring an hour early, but being a day/night Test he wanted to bowl in the night conditions with the new ball.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Smith did the right thing. The bowlers almost threw the game away. Starc and Hazlewood should be foils to a better bowler. Individually neither are good enough to lead the attack. Starc lacking consistency and Hazlewood lacking pace.

 

[archereleven]

Smith did the right thing not enforcing the follow on. There was so much time left in the game. Give the bowlers some recovery time and takes the game completely away from the Pakistanis. The only thing you could criticize Smith for was declaring an hour early, but being a day/night Test he wanted to bowl in the night conditions with the new ball.

Completely disagree. Not only did it nearly cost us the game, it has given serious confidence to the Pakistan squad for the upcoming Boxing Day test. They just completed the 4th largest 4th innings total in history when our bowlers could of had an extra days rest all going well. We will never know. Starc, H/Wood and Bird had only bowled 18, 14 and 12 overs respectively- hardly an amount where bowlers need 'recovery'

Great game of test cricket in the end though, as it was looking woeful after Paks first innings.

 

[archereleven]

Smith did the right thing. The bowlers almost threw the game away. Starc and Hazlewood should be foils to a better bowler. Individually neither are good enough to lead the attack. Starc lacking consistency and Hazlewood lacking pace.

??

Is this a piss take?

Starc is one of the best strike bowlers in the world, his last 18 months has been nothing but sensational. Hazelwood is fast becoming one of the better bowlers in the world and Bird is a good change bowler. I reckon our attack is pretty good atm. Pattinson would be the icing though. Great bowler.

 

[gokangas]

Completely disagree. Not only did it nearly cost us the game, it has given serious confidence to the Pakistan squad for the upcoming Boxing Day test. They just completed the 4th largest 4th innings total in history when our bowlers could of had an extra days rest all going well. We will never know. Starc, H/Wood and Bird had only bowled 18, 14 and 12 overs respectively- hardly an amount where bowlers need 'recovery'

Great game of test cricket in the end though, as it was looking woeful after Paks first innings.

Completely agree. The follow on should have been enacted. nine has too much influence. Three and four day tests impact on the ratings and that equates to dollars when rights are negotiated. We almost lost this test when it was unlosable (in the end it was unlosable I suppose) but the only reason the follow on was not called had nothing to do with cricket.

 

[Saintly35]

Fantastic effort from the Pakis.

Fight back didn't succeed but keeps strong interest for Boxing day test.

That was a brilliant knock by Shafiq. Pakis always been an enigmatic team.

 

[Saintly35]

Matthew Wade is a deadset stinker.
How did he end up part of a reset?
Cannot keep and his batting is grossly overrated.

Nevill should never have been dropped to start with.

I agree that continually spewing "bowled Garry" to force TV watchers to press mute should not be enough to earn a test birth.

I'm normally have bias to Tassie players but Wade just pisses me off from his shit keeping to irresponsible batting.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Yet another failure by the GOAT off-spinner to bowl out a team in the 4th innings. How many tests has he played? From memory, it's that many minus one where he hasn't had an impact in a 4th innings. Which is what off-spinners are picked for, isn't it?

Yes, he bowls some good balls, even some good overs. But they are seriously outnumbered by the non-threatening vanilla stuff that he usually produces.

 

[Saintly35]

Yet another failure by the GOAT off-spinner to bowl out a team in the 4th innings. How many tests has he played? From memory, it's that many minus one where he hasn't had an impact in a 4th innings. Which is what off-spinners are picked for, isn't it?

Yes, he bowls some good balls, even some good overs. But they are seriously outnumbered by the non-threatening vanilla stuff that he usually produces.

Lyon is the most overrated "quality" bowler i can remember.

Would love to see how many wickets he's actually earned by fooling a batsman, rather than just shit kickers to finish an innings or purely on weight of so many deliveries.

He'll get smashed in India. Liability as he's always been.