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as for Warner
we'll it just looks so much like a typical can give it but can't take it situation

You either sledge and accept the consequences or you don't sledge. Don't think you can be halfway with this

Personally I think sledging is for people worried about the size of their appendages anyway..

ps sledging is mindless abuse. Don't mind banter or a frustrated swear word. That's different in my book

anyway that's my opinion FWIW
 
KiwiRoo said:
as for Warner
we'll it just looks so much like a typical can give it but can't take it situation

You either sledge and accept the consequences or you don't sledge. Don't think you can be halfway with this

Personally I think sledging is for people worried about the size of their appendages anyway..

ps sledging is mindless abuse. Don't mind banter or a frustrated swear word. That's different in my book

anyway that's my opinion FWIW
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whats the difference between sledging and banter? Telling a new batsmen thats just played and missed that the bowler is bowling so fast he can't see it, is aimed at getting under the batsmens skin. Putting some doubt in their mind. It's simple banter but the media portray it as sledging. Calling a batsmen Tinder cause all he does is push for singles is sledging... or is it banter?

The Aussies have come out and said they didn't get personal, the umpires have backed this up. De Kock not only got personal he also did it off the ground. Its so different to what the Aussies were doing. You shouldn't have to accept that as a consequence for the banter that goes out on the ground.
 

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sledge1
slɛdʒ/
BRITISH
noun
  1. 1.
    a term reserved exclusively for when an Australian cricketer participates in a verbal exchange in the context of sportsmanship
    "the Australian captain aggressively sledged Harbhajan Singh after Singh made an innocent harmless friendly good-natured racially based observation"
 
kangatime said:
whats the difference between sledging and banter? Telling a new batsmen thats just played and missed that the bowler is bowling so fast he can't see it, is aimed at getting under the batsmens skin. Putting some doubt in their mind. It's simple banter but the media portray it as sledging. Calling a batsmen Tinder cause all he does is push for singles is sledging... or is it banter?

The Aussies have come out and said they didn't get personal, the umpires have backed this up. De Kock not only got personal he also did it off the ground. Its so different to what the Aussies were doing. You shouldn't have to accept that as a consequence for the banter that goes out on the ground.
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Banter
Rod Marsh: "How's the wife and my kids ?
Ian Botham : "The wifes fine the kids are *ed"

Sledging
I F%$*ed your wife last night



as for your last point. this is why I don't like sledging, as it turns into a he said , they said situation. Did the umpires hear everything on the field ? probably not. Has Warner got previous form ? yes.
Are Australia paying currently for past sins ? probably

And as for De Kock well he's certainly living up to his name


ps Liked your Tinder one
 
giantroo said:
Warner is facing suspension from the ICC of a level 2 charge for bringing the game into disrepute while De Kock is facing a level 1 charge for the same offence.
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The fact De Kock is being punished at a lower level when he was the one who drew the reaction is a joke.
 
DarkPhoenix said:
The fact De Kock is being punished at a lower level when he was the one who drew the reaction is a joke.
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Regardless of what was said, and to my mind Warner’s excessive and aggressive sledges brought that reaction you don’t go at someone with physical intent in the pavilion, Warner is over the top and needs the ICC to step in because CA has no balls
 
Le Grille said:
Regardless of what was said, and to my mind Warner’s excessive and aggressive sledges brought that reaction you don’t go at someone with physical intent in the pavilion, Warner is over the top and needs the ICC to step in because CA has no balls
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The onfield sledging has apparently been signed off on by the umpires, so I don't see how it is excessive or aggressive.

Have you watched the video? The aggressiveness and physicality is incredibly overstated by the media.

It was more that he was trying to get a visual on De Kock who was much further down the stairs, to have words with him, there seemed no intent at all to get physical.
 
DarkPhoenix said:
The onfield sledging has apparently been signed off on by the umpires, so I don't see how it is excessive or aggressive.

Have you watched the video? The aggressiveness and physicality is incredibly overstated by the media.

It was more that he was trying to get a visual on De Kock who was much further down the stairs, to have words with him, there seemed no intent at all to get physical.
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Respectfully disagree, he was being held back.

How many matches have umpired ever stated that sledging was too much, maybe individual events but not sledging as a whole. Keep in mind most umps wouldn't hear a lot of what's said. As poor as DeKocks sledge was, you can be as aggressive as Warner was (in his career) and crack the shits when it goes bad against him is a pretty good gauge of the quality of the man. His post match carry on was ******* stupid.
 
Will agree to disagree.

I'm not saying Warner is a saint, but De Kock is getting off way too lightly in all of this, especially with the line of sledging he chose to take.
 
well apparently Warner said Da Kocko has a face like a bush pig......


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Now I put into google bush pig plus Kocko, TBH am not sure who's who.
 

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Hmmmm, hard to say which is worse.

"You look like a bush pig"

or

"your wife's a whore".

Tough one
 
kangatime said:
whats the difference between sledging and banter? Telling a new batsmen thats just played and missed that the bowler is bowling so fast he can't see it, is aimed at getting under the batsmens skin. Putting some doubt in their mind. It's simple banter but the media portray it as sledging. Calling a batsmen Tinder cause all he does is push for singles is sledging... or is it banter?

The Aussies have come out and said they didn't get personal, the umpires have backed this up. De Kock not only got personal he also did it off the ground. Its so different to what the Aussies were doing. You shouldn't have to accept that as a consequence for the banter that goes out on the ground.
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Good post.

You made me lol on the Tinder reference. That’s the first time I’ve heard that one.
 
Australia 1-98 at lunch. Not bad. Warner doing well
 
Rabada's destroying us.
 
Yeah 250 may be a brilliant score
 
Can't wait to see if the powers that be have the balls to charge Rabada, shouldered Smith and screamed in his face after getting his wicket.

Far worse than anything De Kock, Lyon or Warner did.

Has priors for shoulder bumping as well, so it seems like his go to move.
 
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