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At least he might meet up with Colin Miller........Selectors wanted someone to bang down the door...then gave G Maxwell the wrong address!
You don’t think it says more about our batsmen than it does about Lyon?Indian spinners showing just how overrated Nathan Lyon is.
He’s closer to the greatest leg spin bowler we’ve had than any other leg spin bower we’ve ever had!^ Well said. Lack of variety has always been my knock on Lyon. I've come around to the view that he is a very good, even great off-spin bowler, but he's still nowhere near the greatest leg-spin bowler.
A little bit of both.
But it doesn’t change my opinion that Lyon is overrated.
Don’t get me wrong the guy is super consistent and doesn’t bowl many bad balls, but my criticism is that he has little variety and once the batsman is comfortable against him, he has no tricks up his sleeve.
I would love to see him bowl the wrongun more often, the one that straightens, a skidder etc.
It’s like Lyon is on repeat and the batsman can get easily settled against him. He doesn’t make a batsman think, what’s coming next, they know.
I Don't Agree. Compare his average to the rest of the Great Bowlers we have had. Sure he ain't terrible but he ain't Great either. I'd take Richie and Tiger over Lyon. :stern lookHe’s closer to the greatest leg spin bowler we’ve had than any other leg spin bower we’ve ever had!
I just don’t understand how you can overate the 4th highest test wicket taker we’ve ever had.
Indian spinners showing just how overrated Nathan Lyon is.
^ Well said. Lack of variety has always been my knock on Lyon. I've come around to the view that he is a very good, even great off-spin bowler, but he's still nowhere near the greatest leg-spin bowler.
I think you will find over his career he has taken more wickets against India had more 5 wicket hauls and his best ever match figures against India 8-50 not to shabby.I wouldn’t call it subtle at all. Lyon seems more intent on not being scored off than trying to get wickets.
Don’t get me wrong technically he is great, I just feel he doesn’t think the batsman out. He seems to operate on a theory that if he can land the call in the right spot enough they will make a mistake. A good theory against poor players of spin, but not very effective against a batting line up that is used to facing quality spin.
I just feel to be that g reat b owler he needs to learn some new tricks and make the batsman think, not prey purely on mistakes.
Squad for SL Test Series:
T.Paine (c), J.Hazelwood (vc), J.Burns, P.Cummins, M.Harris, T.Head, U.Khawaja, M.Labuschagne, N.Lyon, W.Pucovski, M.Renshaw, M.Starc & P.Siddle.
My 1st test team prediction:
1. M.Harris
2. M.Renshaw
3. U.Khawaja
4. J.Burns
5. W.Pucovski
6. T.Head
7. T.Paine (c)
8. P.Cummins
9. M.Starc
10. N. Lyon
11. J.Hazelwood (vc)
Siddle and Labuschagne miss out. Burns and Pucovski could swap batting spots.
I know very little about Pucovski but good luck to him, his surname isn't Marsh so I won't be feeling the impending sense of doom as he walks out to bat.
Would love to know what Glenn Maxwell has done wrong though.
As for Lyon, he's not unlike our quicks - as soon as the wicket isn't bouncing he isn't nearly as effective.
Have you actually seen much of him, mate? I've seen a lot of people say that he's possibly our biggest talent since the golden generation, and iirc the hype around him has been big since the u19 WC, I think it was, but I've never seen him play, myself.Pucovski is a hugely talented 20 year old Vic who made 250 against W.A last season. Unfortunately for him he keeps getting hit in the head and has had concussion issues. Made another ton earlier this season but then took time off for mental health issues. Came back and played 1 shield game and made a half century in the 2nd innings.
Looks good. I don't mind Burns but he's always looked more of a 4/5 type than an opener to me.Squad for SL Test Series:
T.Paine (c), J.Hazelwood (vc), J.Burns, P.Cummins, M.Harris, T.Head, U.Khawaja, M.Labuschagne, N.Lyon, W.Pucovski, M.Renshaw, M.Starc & P.Siddle.
My 1st test team prediction:
1. M.Harris
2. M.Renshaw
3. U.Khawaja
4. J.Burns
5. W.Pucovski
6. T.Head
7. T.Paine (c)
8. P.Cummins
9. M.Starc
10. N. Lyon
11. J.Hazelwood (vc)
Siddle and Labuschagne miss out. Burns and Pucovski could swap batting spots.