Opinion Cricket thread

[hilly]

Ben Stokes has confirmed what you said that the ball did indeed clip his front pad first and he was convinced it was going down leg side and he cant believe DRS showed 3 reds. He said DRS got it completely wrong so maybe the ump should be given benefit of the doubt. DRS is just as likely to make a mistake as any umpire. People should be looking at the other missed chances that could have been controlled like the run out if they are looking for reasons. But an innings like that has never been played before. It was something else

Turn it up, it was crashing into the stumps.

 

[hilly]

I once had to give a nasty captain's report to one umpire. I was at mid off and the bowler was running in to bowl when I heard someone talking. Turns out the umpire was watching the Cox plate on his phone. I stopped our bowler and have him a blast.

Was also the game one of our batsman grabbed an opposition player by the throat after copping a send off.

The weak prick reported him, but was too gutless to go the tribunal.

Surely a drinks break could have been arranged.

 

[roo blitz]

Turn it up, it was crashing into the stumps.

Only if it was spinning which it wasnt. It hit front pad first not back leg as DRS showed. DRS was taking spin into account and Lyon was not spinning it much so its not as clear cut as first thought. Thats why the umpire gave it not out. Stokes himself has said he thought it was clearly missing and DRS was wrong in its trajectory. DRS can be wrong just like umpires. It is only a prediction at ball tracking. No spin it aint hitting. Watch it in slow motion. Very close either way

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Only if it was spinning which it wasnt. It hit front pad first not back leg as DRS showed. DRS was taking spin into account and Lyon was not spinning it much so its not as clear cut as first thought. Thats why the umpire gave it not out. Stokes himself has said he thought it was clearly missing and DRS was wrong in its trajectory. DRS can be wrong just like umpires. It is only a prediction at ball tracking. No spin it aint hitting. Watch it in slow motion. Very close either way

No again. The ball tracking line is the actual, physical path of the ball to the point of hitting the pad. The extrapolation is from that point.

For clarity, the part of the diagram where the ball pitches and straightens is the actual movement. The only prediction is the straight line from the point of contact.

I've just realised you probably haven't seen the diagram (and that you're English).

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Surely a drinks break could have been arranged.

Nah, we were playing for sheep stations.

In the end our bloke got 2 weeks and the umpire got 3.

 

[EDFL follower]

Nah, we were playing for sheep stations.

In the end our bloke got 2 weeks and the umpire got 3.

Was that the video all over social media a couple of years ago where he got bowled then attacked the bowler after he gobbled off?

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Was that the video all over social media a couple of years ago where he got bowled then attacked the bowler after he gobbled off?

Nah, it happened too fast to video out.

 

[hilly]

Only if it was spinning which it wasnt. It hit front pad first not back leg as DRS showed. DRS was taking spin into account and Lyon was not spinning it much so its not as clear cut as first thought. Thats why the umpire gave it not out. Stokes himself has said he thought it was clearly missing and DRS was wrong in its trajectory. DRS can be wrong just like umpires. It is only a prediction at ball tracking. No spin it aint hitting. Watch it in slow motion. Very close either way

Well if Stokes says he thought it was missing then it must have been missing!

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Now Shane Warne's in a Twitter fight with Matt Prior (who, until today, I had forgotten ever played international cricket, so good on you).

Again, England went into this home series firm favourites and on a high for hitting the most boundaries in the world. Now they have managed to not lose the series inside three days of the third test. Australia was serving for match point and instead this is going to a third/fourth set. And they have a good lot of time to get their equlibriuum back as well as their best player. Way too early for the kind of crowing that is going on. Didn't see any of it after Australia went 1-0 up.

 

[KiwiRoo]

Thought this was interesting .........
you can see why the Aussies struggle without Smith

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Now Shane Warne's in a Twitter fight with Matt Prior (who, until today, I had forgotten ever played international cricket, so good on you).

Again, England went into this home series firm favourites and on a high for hitting the most boundaries in the world. Now they have managed to not lose the series inside three days of the third test. Australia was serving for match point and instead this is going to a third/fourth set. And they have a good lot of time to get their equlibriuum back as well as their best player. Way too early for the kind of crowing that is going on. Didn't see any of it after Australia went 1-0 up.

Ironically, Matt Prior is probably more relevant now, after one twitter battle, than the whole time he played Test cricket.

 

[jimandphilbadge]

Matt Prior is the keyboard warrior dragging up quotes from 5 years ago. Did he get lost from the Sympathy for * thread?

 

[Samsquanch]

Well if Stokes says he thought it was missing then it must have been missing!

When you put it like that it's convincing. More convincing than the umpire who said it was missing at least. Well, about equally as convincing as the umpire who wrongly said it was missing actually, so complete bullsh*t in reality.

 

[giantroo]

Khawaja as captain?

Australia XI to face Derbyshire: Usman Khawaja (c), Cameron Bancroft, Alex Carey (wk), Marcus Harris, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitch Marsh, Michael Neser, Peter Siddle, Steve Smith, Mitch Starc, Matthew Wade

 

[Hearts to hearts]

Khawaja as captain?

Australia XI to face Derbyshire: Usman Khawaja (c), Cameron Bancroft, Alex Carey (wk), Marcus Harris, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitch Marsh, Michael Neser, Peter Siddle, Steve Smith, Mitch Starc, Matthew Wade

Speak to me of Michael Neser. Neser heard of him.

 

[Samsquanch]

Speak to me of Michael Neser. Neser heard of him.

And "Mitch Starc". Is he still in the team?

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Speak to me of Michael Neser. Neser heard of him.

Queensland all rounder that has gone under the radar for the last few seasons. Perfect bowler for English conditions

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Khawaja as captain?

Australia XI to face Derbyshire: Usman Khawaja (c), Cameron Bancroft, Alex Carey (wk), Marcus Harris, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitch Marsh, Michael Neser, Peter Siddle, Steve Smith, Mitch Starc, Matthew Wade

Just a practice match, makes sense as he's the most experienced.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Just a practice match, makes sense as he's the most experienced.

Yeah, I suppose, but it does seem to be rewarding mediocrity.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Yeah, I suppose, but it does seem to be rewarding mediocrity.

It's a B team.

Wouldn't surprise me if this game is a bat off between Harris and Khawaja for the last batting spot in the next Test.

 

[Hojuman]

It's a B team.

Wouldn't surprise me if this game is a bat off between Harris and Khawaja for the last batting spot in the next Test.

Reckon Uzzy has had enough chances Spidey. Time for tough decisions.

 

[Themanbun]

Warner
Harris
Labuschagne
Smith
Head
Wade
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazelwood

That'd be my pick. I'm not a big fan of Starc but feel like the left arm will provide a bit of variety.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Reckon Uzzy has had enough chances Spidey. Time for tough decisions.

Looks like my hunch is correct. It's going to be Harris or Khawaja miss out.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Looks like my hunch is correct. It's going to be Harris or Khawaja miss out.

Harris himself said as much on the wireless this morning.

 

[Nate7]

Derbyshire all out for 172 inside 57 overs.
Starc with 3 and all the other bowlers chipped in.

Harris among the runs, Khawaja barely holding down the other end.