Opinion Cricket thread

[Nate7]

Klinger has "stepped down" from his position at the Renegades and will take up position as head of men's cricket NSW.

 

[D23D]

Klinger has "stepped down" from his position at the Renegades and will take up position as head of men's cricket NSW.

For a second I thought you meant the NSW premier had stood down

 

[ChoppyGun]

I reckon your mate is a rubbish umpire and hope he doesn't get either of the remaining games. Then gets dropped from the umpiring panel for good.

That's my opinion. I'm entitled to state it and to continually state it. I'll just say it more forcefully each time.

I am absolutely unwilling to listen to the views of other posters now that I've made up my mind, even if other posters have better knowledge of the facts and history.

In conclusion, that umpire is crap and a disgrace to Australian cricket. Has to go.

It's a shame you feel that way about Sam..

But that's fine.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

It's a shame you feel that way about Sam..

But that's fine.

If it was a true reflection of what I think of him, yes, it definitely would be a shame. Imagine criticising someone unmercifully (and continually) based on a narrow perception of his performance, then not listening to others who attempt to provide more information and context.

i.e. I'm hoping you got the sub-text.

 

[ChoppyGun]

If it was a true reflection of what I think of him, yes, it definitely would be a shame. Imagine criticising someone unmercifully (and continually) based on a narrow perception of his performance, then not listening to others who attempt to provide more information and context.

i.e. I'm hoping you got the sub-text.

I'm very aware of what you were trying to achieve.

Problem is it's blatantly wrong and a completely unsuitable comparison.

Making a rare mistake is different to continually failing to deliver.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I'm very aware of what you were trying to achieve.

Problem is it's blatantly wrong and a completely unsuitable comparison.

Making a rare mistake is different to continually failing to deliver.

See, you still haven't taken the point.

You have a habit of making big ultra-critical calls on sports people and your opinion is almost always based on not processing a full set of facts. Just make up your mind, ignore the inconvenient facts that would bring your opinion into question, and then also argue with other people who use facts to demonstrate you're not right.

It is crap to state JZ "continually" fails to deliver. You don't want to admit that, of course, so your next argument will be "I'm right, he never delivers". And that argument is also crap, but you'll just push it harder. Rinse and repeat. Ad nauseum.

If JZ has a good season now, you'll say "I'm glad he proved me wrong". But guess what, you're already wrong about him, no matter what he does in 2021 and beyond.

 

[ChoppyGun]

See, you still haven't taken the point.

You have a habit of making big ultra-critical calls on sports people and your opinion is almost always based on not processing a full set of facts. Just make up your mind, ignore the inconvenient facts that would bring your opinion into question, and then also argue with other people who use facts to demonstrate you're not right.

It is crap to state JZ "continually" fails to deliver. You don't want to admit that, of course, so your next argument will be "I'm right, he never delivers". And that argument is also crap, but you'll just push it harder. Rinse and repeat. Ad nauseum.

If JZ has a good season now, you'll say "I'm glad he proved me wrong". But guess what, you're already wrong about him, no matter what he does in 2021 and beyond.

I'm wrong because you disagree.

Brilliant attitude to discussion mate.....haha

ps; you have a habit of defending players despite all evidence to the contrary. It's admirable sure but basically means anything you write (including Jack) can't be considered as legitimate.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I'm wrong because you disagree.

Brilliant attitude to discussion mate.....haha

ps; you have a habit of defending players despite all evidence to the contrary. It's admirable sure but basically means anything you write (including Jack) can't be considered as legitimate.

No, you're wrong because you're wrong. Look up JZ's career stats and then come back and support your rubbish assertion that he continually fails to deliver.

Assessing his whole career on a very poor season - the most recent - is completely narrow-minded. It's like crucifying a cricket umpire for one pathetically ridiculous howler.

 

[ChoppyGun]

No, you're wrong because you're wrong. Look up JZ's career stats and then come back and support your rubbish assertion that he continually fails to deliver.

Assessing his whole career on a very poor season - the most recent - is completely narrow-minded. It's like crucifying a cricket umpire for one pathetically ridiculous howler.

Yeah his stats suggest he's the most losing Captain we've had for quite a while. Which stats are you looking at or are we following a different team?

It wasn't pathetically ridiculous as it sounded out on TV as a noise as ball passed bat which was well away from his body. It was wrong after replays but certainly an understandable decision.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Yeah his stats suggest he's the most losing Captain we've had for quite a while. Which stats are you looking at or are we following a different team?

It wasn't pathetically ridiculous as it sounded out on TV as a noise as ball passed bat which was well away from his body. It was wrong after replays but certainly an understandable decision.

Typical straw man from you. You clearly haven't got an argument if you're sticking to the spurious JZ (the player) "continually fails to deliver" as a direct and logical conclusion to draw from below average team performance.

And disingenuous as usual, too. You can easily find his career stats and when you do, you will be forced to concede that your argument is bullshit.

PS - I don't give a shit about your umpire mate, but it's laughable that you keep jumping to his defence for a clear error yet won't extend the same courtesy to the ones you have in the gun.

We're done here. Don't PM me, FFS.

 

[ChoppyGun]

Typical straw man from you. You clearly haven't got an argument if you're sticking to the spurious JZ (the player) "continually fails to deliver" as a direct and logical conclusion to draw from below average team performance.

And disingenuous as usual, too. You can easily find his career stats and when you do, you will be forced to concede that your argument is bullshit.

PS - I don't give a sh*t about your umpire mate, but it's laughable that you keep jumping to his defence for a clear error yet won't extend the same courtesy to the ones you have in the gun.

We're done here. Don't PM me, FFS.

So in other words you've thrown the toys out of the cot as you didn't get your way?

How unusual for you!

Thanks for the discussion and yeah, Sam is a great umpire which hopefully we get a great Captain in future too.

Cheers.

 

[Hojuman]

S.A. tour in some doubt. Probably a good idea. Risk too great.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

S.A. tour in some doubt. Probably a good idea. Risk too great.

Officially called off now.

 

[Hojuman]

Officially called off now.

" Postponed " quote / unquote Spidey. But reckon you're right.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

" Postponed " quote / unquote Spidey. But reckon you're right.

South African minnows, if this was a tour to India or England it would have went ahead.

 

[giantroo]

 

[D23D]

Starc drops off markedly the longer a series goes. Strike rate of 44 in tests one and two, up to 55 in tests three and four. Average also goes from 24 to 32.

Best you don't look at his record in fifth tests.

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Good post big_e
I sent your table here to a couple of mates who sent it on as well and now the courier mail and news . com are running with it!

Damning statistic seals Starc’s fate

On Boxing Day in 2012, cameras repeatedly panned towards a seething Mitchell Starc, the tall left-armer who was visibly fuming on the sidelines at the MCG.

www.news.com.au

 

[KiwiRoo]

Good post big_e
I sent your table here to a couple of mates who sent it on as well and now the courier mail and news . com are running with it!

Damning statistic seals Starc’s fate

On Boxing Day in 2012, cameras repeatedly panned towards a seething Mitchell Starc, the tall left-armer who was visibly fuming on the sidelines at the MCG.

www.news.com.au

Yeah it was pretty obvious that a lot of petrol tickets had been spent in the last innings in Sydney. They should have made at least one change

 

[Samsquanch]

Yeah it was pretty obvious that a lot of petrol tickets had been spent in the last innings in Sydney. They should have made at least one change

Two.

 

[Usayed Givashe]

England were decent value at $5 for the Test and $9 for the series.

I hear it can be very hard to get up for Sanchez-Vicario after you’ve spent the evening with Margot Robbie, which is kinda like playing England at home in front of no one after belting us away under enormous duress.

 

[Marstermind]

England were decent value at $5 for the Test and $9 for the series.

I hear it can be very hard to get up for Sanchez-Vicario after you’ve spent the evening with Margot Robbie, which is kinda like playing England at home in front of no one after belting us away under enormous duress.

Root's just about getting into my World XI. But who's spot does he take from 3-5? Kohli, Williamson or Smith? His record is Australia is ordinary, but he's in hot form - been a while since an Australian batsman has been as dominant in Sri Lanka or India.

 

[Marstermind]

England were decent value at $5 for the Test and $9 for the series.

I hear it can be very hard to get up for Sanchez-Vicario after you’ve spent the evening with Margot Robbie, which is kinda like playing England at home in front of no one after belting us away under enormous duress.

I hear that as soon as you turn the lights out and close your eyes, it's all the same.

 

[Usayed Givashe]

Root's just about getting into my World XI. But who's spot does he take from 3-5? Kohli, Williamson or Smith? His record is Australia is ordinary, but he's in hot form - been a while since an Australian batsman has been as dominant in Sri Lanka or India.

He could open with Labuschagne!

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Do India's bowlers prefer hard, bouncy tracks?

The pitch looks dead flat, but their spinners look ordinary.

 

[king rising]

That is a superb skippers knock from Root. His sweep shot in particular a thing of beauty. Maybe India in a trough after the high of the Australia tour, some of their fielding ‘efforts’ if you could even label them that have been appalling. Take nothing away from Root though, there’s no doubt he’s the form batsman in world cricket at the moment.