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As I said before quotas are far more spoken of than existent. But absolutely those barriers should be removed, a quota is not really an effective remedy.
I'm not sure what you want in terms of a round of football celebrating the contribution of the working class. Not many people self-identify along class lines any more. But I think it's a great idea, no doubt there's a rich history to explore there.

It's unworkable mate. Laws based upon across the board equality is about as level as you can make things. Then it's up to merit. Anything else introduces prejudice.
 

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There are laws to protect these people. Prejudice based upon sexuality, gender and race has been outlawed for decades.

This ongoing crap is a ridiculous power play, utilised by select groups of neurotics, or straight up political extremists, facilitated by political and "academic" opportunists and their feeble minded minions.
Have you got daughters?
 

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Every North game has become the same, every BF thread has become the same.
And the person derailing the footy talk with their views on society is the very same person that tells us that society issues should not be addressed in the world of footy.
Ya gotta laugh.
It's representative of your bias to point the finger at one side of the argument.

Ya gotta laugh.
 

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Aren’t we proposing a play for the adjoining block to our ground before it is snapped up by developers?


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Cos thats just what the country needs, more houses people can't afford to meet population surges we can't sustain.

You'd think the housing market crash would invite an easing off period for developers.
 
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Okay, apologies.

Women having children is a personal choice, which has some statutory protection anyway.

Wheelchairs of course are not a choice and require very careful consideration.

The truly puzzling thing for me is that the folks with the mindset I am in opposition with on this stuff, have not acknowledged that they are in fact exhibiting condescension towards the same people they believe need special privileges. How can you have quotas based upon race or gender and NOT be racist and sexist in the process? The automatic application of victimhood based upon these grounds MUST attract an aspect of condescencion in order for them to have any basis! These people ARE sexists and racists!
Quotas are in place (seriously struggle with why this has to be explained, you seem quite articulate) for example, a job, you have 3 candidates with exact same skillset, exact same experience, you have one position, one is anglo confident male, other is a confident women and the third is a confident m/f with indigenous background! All identical in skillset and will provide the same service to the company.. WITHOUT a quota who do you think gets the job? The male will get the job almost all the time, female maybe and the indigenous candidate be lucky if they are even considered! This is an actual reality! And why quotas of such are introduced in companies.. If you honestly believe that prejudice does not exist in women or the indigenous then you are further behind than where progression needs to be.

Im not having a dig at you, a lot of people have the same hard right views as yourself, but you’ll have to accept you are now the minority!
 

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Ha come on Darls....throw us another "virtual signaling."
LOL, you swagger in here with your alt. account and hand pick anything to which you can apply a canned response. This is the extent of your intellect, chirpy little snide remarks. You're literally a child.
 

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Quotas are in place (seriously struggle with why this has to be explained, you seem quite articulate) for example, a job, you have 3 candidates with exact same skillset, exact same experience, you have one position, one is anglo confident male, other is a confident women and the third is a confident m/f with indigenous background! All identical in skillset and will provide the same service to the company.. WITHOUT a quota who do you think gets the job? The male will get the job almost all the time, female maybe and the indigenous candidate be lucky if they are even considered!
That is a baseless assumption.

This is an actual reality! And why quotas of such are introduced in companies.. If you honestly believe that prejudice does not exist in women or the indigenous then you are further behind than where progression needs to be.
No mate, it's your assumption.

Im not having a dig at you, a lot of people have the same hard right views as yourself, but you’ll have to accept you are now the minority!
There's not a "hard right" bone in my body. That's just another assumption which is a result of an all too common narrow world view.
 
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Now Kingy chimes in.

North Melbourne has lost the Shinboner spirit, writes David King
David King, Herald Sun
April 24, 2019 4:04pm
There are too many “visitors” at Arden St.

“Visitors” being short-to-medium term occupants who either don’t believe in North Melbourne’s heart and soul — The Shinboner — or have not embraced the club’s beliefs.
The Shinboner is a unifying, overarching ethos that not only embraces the struggles of the past but sets the bare minimum standards that this once great football club demands.
North Melbourne’s culture was born from the Shinboner and has always been about its people, past and present.
Often it was all we had.
So the question need to be asked: Is Brad Scott a visitor?
After 10 years at the helm, if it all finished today, what would his legacy as coach look like?
To my mind, Scott either misinterpreted or simply wasn’t a subscriber to “The Shinboner Spirit” upon arrival at the club.
Perhaps it’s more important for the rusted-on Kangaroos fan and the football club that our ethos remains intact.
But right now it’s significantly more important to Scott and his side than any tactic or moving of player magnets.
Relationships are in fashion, regarding coach to player and coach to staff and so on.
We’ve witnessed Damien Hardwick and Nathan Buckley shift their focus over the past couple of seasons to redefine their priorities, with stunning success.
Has Scott undergone that same transformation?
All great cultures possess tremendous player unity driven by the stars, from Wayne Schimmelbusch to Wayne Carey. Or even further back, as legend has it, by Les Foote and John Dugdale types.
But I can only identify with the Carey model that had all players, trainers and staff on the same equal peg.
Carey was a true cultural driver who stamped a one-in, all-in philosophy.
Does this playing group enjoy the same bond?
The loss of Geoff Walsh as director of football cannot be understated.
His preparedness to engage in difficult conversations and arrest areas of concern, or at bare minimum raise an alarm, are missing right now.
On-field, the game plan is failing.
Opposition sides score against North Melbourne with an uncomfortable ease and it’s been that way for years.
Disturbingly, the much-lauded brutal contested ball asset has dissipated to the point of becoming docile.
When all else is lost clubs retreat to their core foundation, their identity and what they stand for, but what are the current non-negotiables at Arden St?
We don’t want Scott the coach, we want Scott the player.
Ben Cunnington and Scott Thompson have played in the right manner with 100 per cent effort, 100 per cent of the time.
They never throw in the towel and make Kangaroo fans proud, but others must get on board.
When was the last time the captain grabbed a game by the throat?
Jack Ziebell cannot have a repeat of last week’s six disposal, zero tackle stat sheet.
His physical presence has such an emotional influence on this group, but he must spend time at the coalface, in the true midfield on Friday night.
Has the glut of free agency acquisitions of the previous four to five years watered down and diluted the deep-seated passion for the club, over and above the pure financial gain?
Are these “consultants”, who have been selected for a specific needs in the short term, buying in to the total team requirements?
The uncontested nature of how some are playing would suggest there are worrying signs.
Jared Polec, Aaron Hall and this season’s version of Shaun Higgins are swanning around the ground prioritising uncontested football and personal statistical reward over the team needs, which include all defensive actions.
Regardless of all else the spotlight of Friday night football, when the club has its back to the wall, has always been the domain of the “Shinboner”.
Playing Port Adelaide provides the perfect opportunity for North to reignite a season drifting aimlessly into the abyss.
The Power are following the outstanding leadership of Travis Boak, Ollie Wines and Tom Jonas, but still possess much inexperience.
North Melbourne must seek to ambush the Power in the same manner as Richmond only a
fortnight ago.
When these Kangaroos pull on the royal blue and white vertical stripes they must be prepared to fight tooth and nail for victory with a desire that doesn’t settle for near enough is good enough.
It’s season on the line at the Adelaide Oval.
It takes a lot for the North Melbourne faithful to stir, but they are agitated.
I’m convinced there will be an all-club review, from top to bottom, at season’s end and I fear a broom will be swept through Arden St.
But just how long those brushes will be could be determined over the next three months.
I accept that when discussing North Melbourne, I’m accused either of being too supportive, or the contrary, turning on the club that gave me all that I enjoy.
But I write this because I care.
What I’d give to select Glenn Archer, John Law and Jimmy Krakouer at the selection table tonight, not on talent, but effort alone.
‘Fears’ a broom eh’?

I’ve been thinking a chainsaw from the back shed all week

Fwiw he forgot JYD (Player)
 
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