Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymars assault charges dropped (Separate incidents)

glenferry23

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Getting some more traction finally within the mainstream media. Simply googling “ronaldo rape case” yields a host of results.

The BBC even have a “ronaldo rape allegation” section listing the various articles in sequence over the last few months.

https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c12jzjr2m73t/ronaldo-rape-allegation

It’s not going away anytime soon and it s**t will hit the fan if he is to stand trial.
 

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Getting some more traction finally within the mainstream media. Simply googling “ronaldo rape case” yields a host of results.

The BBC even have a “ronaldo rape allegation” section listing the various articles in sequence over the last few months.

https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/c12jzjr2m73t/ronaldo-rape-allegation

It’s not going away anytime soon and it s**t will hit the fan if he is to stand trial.
What are the chances of that actually happening? Would her accepting money in exchange for not pursuing a criminal complaint affect the ability of the police to have him charged?
 

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What are the chances of that actually happening? Would her accepting money in exchange for not pursuing a criminal complaint affect the ability of the police to have him charged?
A civil complaint and a criminal case are very different things, so I don’t believe one impedes the other. I don’t know the chances of him actually standing trial though, especially when it comes to extradition agreements with Portuguese citizen and the USA etc.

From what I’ve read, her legal team are arguing the arrangement she signed is null and void, given the circumstances around it. The intimidation tactics, her very fragile mental health, the promise of Ronaldo being at mediation to lure her in (but he never really was intended to be there).

So I believe that’s why they’re moving foreword via the criminal system. I don’t claim to know what would happen though if a warrant was issued for Ronaldo’s arrest etc, no idea how that would actually work if it proceeds to that stage.
 

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Neymar responds to rape allegations by releasing WhatsApp messages between him and his accuser:

https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2019/06/02/5cf38cb622601dfe618b458e.html


Running google translate one of the messages roughly translates to "that was amazing let's shag again!"


The incident was alleged to have occurred May 15th in a hotel in Paris. No complaint was made to French police - the accuser made allegations to Brazillian police after travelling back to Brazil.


For me, if these messages really are genuine and did occur after the supposed incident I do not see how Neymar could possibly be guilty of sexual assault.



If all of this is true I can see it negatively affecting the Ronaldo sexual assault case which is a shame.
 

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Neymar responds to rape allegations by releasing WhatsApp messages between him and his accuser:

https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2019/06/02/5cf38cb622601dfe618b458e.html


Running google translate one of the messages roughly translates to "that was amazing let's shag again!"


The incident was alleged to have occurred May 15th in a hotel in Paris. No complaint was made to French police - the accuser made allegations to Brazillian police after travelling back to Brazil.


For me, if these messages really are genuine and did occur after the supposed incident I do not see how Neymar could possibly be guilty of sexual assault.



If all of this is true I can see it negatively affecting the Ronaldo sexual assault case which is a shame.
What is it about Neymar's response that you find convincing? The part where he screenshotted nudes to humiliate the accuser? He's nauseating.
 

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What is it about Neymar's response that you find convincing? The part where he screenshotted nudes to humiliate the accuser? He's nauseating.
I don't like the guy, but saying that he did that to humiliate the accuser? Really? He's been accused of rape and if the messages he showed are true, he was clearly set up. Give the guy a break. All he did was bring up evidence showing he's innocent.
 

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Yeah absolutely no issue with what he did if in fact the women in question is talking s**t. Problem is though he will now be investigated for revenge porn so has kind of f’ed himself over by trying to prove his innocence.
 

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Neymar responds to rape allegations by releasing WhatsApp messages between him and his accuser:

https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2019/06/02/5cf38cb622601dfe618b458e.html


Running google translate one of the messages roughly translates to "that was amazing let's shag again!"


The incident was alleged to have occurred May 15th in a hotel in Paris. No complaint was made to French police - the accuser made allegations to Brazillian police after travelling back to Brazil.


For me, if these messages really are genuine and did occur after the supposed incident I do not see how Neymar could possibly be guilty of sexual assault.



If all of this is true I can see it negatively affecting the Ronaldo sexual assault case which is a shame.
I don’t believe it will have any bearing on the Ronaldo case. The information and material made available for that is poles apart, there’s no comparison.

But were you perhaps referring to the skepticism involved when a woman comes forward alleging assault against players/celebrities of this stature?
 

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Problem with a rape accusation is that a celebrity becomes guilty by default in public opinion. I guess there was no other way for Neymar to express his innocence other than show evidence that proves his innocence.

It would be better if both the victim and the accused remain anonymous until the decision is made to charge the accused. That way we wouldn't have this stuff play out in the public domain. When a celebrity like Neymar is involved I imagine that's easier said than done
 

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I don’t believe it will have any bearing on the Ronaldo case. The information and material made available for that is poles apart, there’s no comparison.

But were you perhaps referring to the skepticism involved when a woman comes forward alleging assault against players/celebrities of this stature?

Yes, that is what I was getting at. I don't think it is fair if that is the default position when a celebrity is accused of rape. Cases like the Neymar one (if the facts we are getting are real) will not do anything to help the position of genuine victims.
 

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Problem with a rape accusation is that a celebrity becomes guilty by default in public opinion. I guess there was no other way for Neymar to express his innocence other than show evidence that proves his innocence.

It would be better if both the victim and the accused remain anonymous until the decision is made to charge the accused. That way we wouldn't have this stuff play out in the public domain. When a celebrity like Neymar is involved I imagine that's easier said than done
If Neymar’s evidence is the real thing and it confirms his innocence, I don’t have a problem with this being released at the expense of the accusers anonymity. If the accuser is blatantly lying, anonymity should never be a right.
 
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