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Great8

Brownlow Medallist
Apr 19, 2015
14,585
11,471
AFL Club
Essendon
Other Teams
Manchester United, Juventus,
Groundswell of anger?

Got this from Robbo article? Or Caro on another anti Roos rant ?

Or just made it up.
From speaking to a lot of our employees who live down there. I visit there for work about once every 6 weeks and football is always a topic of conversation. We also have done some research as we were looking at sponsorship/advertising
 

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The 747

Brownlow Medallist
Jan 19, 2008
18,492
21,806
Melbourne
AFL Club
Geelong
“Mr Martine was also questioned about how the government would repay its debt, following revelations in the budget last November the Victorian government had recorded an operating deficit of $6.5bn compared with a forecast surplus of $600m in the last financial year.”


“The state collected $9.7 billion less in revenue than it spent over the second half of last year, meaning the full-year deficit could be as high as $20 billion. Before the pandemic, Treasury expected a small surplus for the year.”

The Government being in debt does not have much impact on day to day life here. They are still building and building and building everywhere, which means lots of people are employed and have money to spend. I don't see the connection between the Vic Government being in debt and football attendances sorry. Happy to look at something else if you have it though.
 

Demonic Ascent

Brownlow Medallist
Feb 21, 2006
16,189
12,387
Muckertal
AFL Club
Melbourne
Other Teams
Turtles, NYJets, Celtics, Tottenham
Saturday night wasn't a sellout.
I think the point was though that RFC members couldn't get access with the GA ticket they have already paid for as part of their membership because the allocation was "exhausted" and could only select an "upgrade" at a significant price only to see half the ground empty. Not a sellout but GA members allocation was exhausted which is clearly BS and just profiteering by the AFL and/or club's. Some transparency around this would be great because seems like an absolute racket at the moment and just a way for the AFL/club's to recoup some of the losses suffered last year at the expense of their loyal supporters.
 

HPKS

Club Legend
Apr 6, 2012
1,250
1,191
Perth
AFL Club
Sydney
The Government being in debt does not have much impact on day to day life here. They are still building and building and building everywhere, which means lots of people are employed and have money to spend. I don't see the connection between the Vic Government being in debt and football attendances sorry. Happy to look at something else if you have it though.
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Bill Haverchuck

Team Captain
Sep 30, 2019
520
1,135
AFL Club
Richmond
Top of the Olympic looked pretty empty. Wouldn't surprise if they stopped selling those tickets to try and force people into the expensive seats
Yep , on friday and saturday no top level seats availible on ticketek

Fri nights game looks like 70 level 1 wing and 65 for level 1 goal , pretty disappointing..
On the plus side there are some general reserved seats on the bottom of ponsford at least..
 
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Consolaçao

All Australian
May 22, 2007
723
495
Melbourne Town
AFL Club
Adelaide
Other Teams
Phnom Penh Utd (curling)
In Adelaide, you still need to walk around the ground with a face mask. Only at the AO, mind you... shopping centres, bars, the SANFL, you can be packed in with complete and utter strangers, and it’s all ok (Im told it’s sumfink to do wiv da science). Then obviously there’s the QR code BS and the crowd cap which is apparently serving some public health purpose in the context of zero community transmissions.

Some seem to get a kick out of being made to engage in these sorts of performances. Whether it’s individual pathologies around cleanliness and safety or a lust for authoritarian control, I dunno... but either way it makes me and plenty of others despair and would at least partly explain why crowds are down.

I’ve got a lot of other stuff going on, so I’m the type of fan who might attend 2-3 games in a normal year (with my kids). Not on my radar for 2021 though.
 

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TENACIOUS

All Australian
Aug 16, 2008
862
2,811
AFL Club
Carlton
Just had a look at ticket prices, couldn't believe it.

A day out for a family of 4 -

2 Adults + 2 Junior $130 at MCG
+ Fuel
+ Parking
+ Food
+ Getting the kids a present
= Huge $$ for low income families

The footy is becoming out of reach for the common family..

My Saturdays are now at the local footy, because I have kids - in U18 and senior..
Have noticed the crowds are getting bigger and the atmosphere is much better
 
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Punt Road Feral

Club Legend
Aug 23, 2007
2,963
2,157
Punt Road's Manure Pit
AFL Club
Richmond
Tbh both games I've gone to this season haven't exactly been great experiences and as such I'm definitely happy to stay home and watch it on tv Friday night.

Rnd 1 - Despite multiple reassurances on the radio about extra train services getting fans home and social distancing yarda yarda I missed my train by a minute and had to wait half an hour and got home after midnight. Felt like sh*t getting up the next day basically like i was hungover.

Anzac Eve - Couldn't sit with mates who weren't members or meet up with them at a bar so wasn't great. Had good seats but got wet when it starting raining and basically missed the 2 qtr waiting in line to get food.

For a 25 year member it's probably not a great sign that I'm not overly enjoying live games anymore and could have a better experience at home let alone save some $$$
 

fpm84

Brownlow Medallist
Sep 7, 2005
11,653
27,523
Melbourne
AFL Club
Geelong
Other Teams
Dallas Mavs, West Ham
Have posted this before but the zones at the MCG are becoming very frustrating. I sit in the AFL reserve and under the current system, can't walk around to other parts of the ground.

Was there on ANZAC Day and the AFL reserve was packed. Facilities for thousands of people were: 1x sit down bar with capacity for 140 people, 1x sit down cafe with seating for about 25 people (queues for a coffee were 30+ mins during the game), 2x take away outlets selling hot dogs and pies, 1x take away bar and 1x coffee cart.

That's simply ridiculous for the amount of people that were there, leading to queues and frustration.
 

Rusty Brookes

Norm Smith Medallist
Aug 9, 2001
5,520
6,175
Preston
AFL Club
Hawthorn
Other Teams
Hawthorn, Manningham Cobras
Changed my mind and decided to get tickets for this Saturday's game against St Kilda. Really happy with the allocation this week - the last row on L3.

The AFL is f’ed.
I got third row from the front on Level 3 without any additional charge. I doubt they've sold out the top deck of Marvel Stadium for Hawthorn v St Kilda. I reckon they're just allocating bays to visiting members and shoving us all in the one place.
 

Pakenhamsaint

Premium Platinum
Jan 5, 2011
36,795
25,736
AFL Club
St Kilda
Have posted this before but the zones at the MCG are becoming very frustrating. I sit in the AFL reserve and under the current system, can't walk around to other parts of the ground.

Was there on ANZAC Day and the AFL reserve was packed. Facilities for thousands of people were: 1x sit down bar with capacity for 140 people, 1x sit down cafe with seating for about 25 people (queues for a coffee were 30+ mins during the game), 2x take away outlets selling hot dogs and pies, 1x take away bar and 1x coffee cart.

That's simply ridiculous for the amount of people that were there, leading to queues and frustration.
The Barassi Cafe is always full. Even for a small crowd the line is big
 

lumpinee

MK ULTRA
Jul 18, 2019
1,374
1,560
across the park from commission flats
AFL Club
Richmond
Just had a look at ticket prices, couldn't believe it.

A day out for a family of 4 -

2 Adults + 2 Junior $130 at MCG
+ Fuel
+ Parking
+ Food
+ Getting the kids a present
= Huge $$ for low income families

The footy is becoming out of reach for the common family..

My Saturdays are now at the local footy, because I have kids - in U18 and senior..
Have noticed the crowds are getting bigger and the atmosphere is much better
surely $130 thats when theres no game on ? loads of complaints on BF $60-$70 just 1 adult
 

Ron The Bear

Come on Sydney, come on!
Jul 4, 2006
34,371
34,564
Melbourne
AFL Club
Richmond
Crowdwatch Round 7

Year
2021
2020
2019
2018
2017
2016
2015
2014
2013
2012
Round 7 average
30,584​
9,297​
38,124​
33,620​
33,064​
32,497​
32,707​
33,095​
29,424​
31,321​
Round 7 2021 - % above or below
+229%​
-20%​
-9%​
-8%​
-6%​
-6%​
-8%​
+4%​
-2%​
Round 7 - lowest since (excluding 2020)
2013​
1942​
2018​
2017​
2016​
2013​
2013​
2013​
2011​
2011​
Round 7 - highest since
2019​
2019​
2000​
2010​
2014​
2015​
2014​
2010​
2012​
2010​
Season average to Round 7
28,902​
4,177​
38,794​
38,009​
36,214​
35,457​
33,919​
33,825​
34,278​
33,345​
Season to Round 7 2021 - % above or below
+592%​
-25%​
-24%​
-20%​
-18%​
-15%​
-15%​
-16%​
-13%​
Season to Round 7 - lowest since (excluding 2020)
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1920​
2018​
2017​
2016​
2015​
2014​
2012​
2012​
2003​
Season to Round 7 - highest since
2019​
2019​
2010​
2010​
2011​
2011​
2013​
2013​
2011​
2011​
 

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