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sellar is 21 mate, sauce is 22, where has he been for the last 5 years? has he been injured or just not getting a game

Sellar is utterly useless.

Kicked 4 in an under 17's state game and was sold on that.

Used to watch him when Gibbs was on sale.

Barely scrapes a game in the Bays Magoos.
 
its obvious they need a ruckman, and jacobs has reportedly said he would like to stay in vic.. why can't it be a possibilty?
 

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and who did brisbane get for him again, not a fringe player thats for sure.
would love to know how walker would be rated if he wasnt a number 2 pick and didnt get 27 touches in his first match way back in 2004 i think it was.

How is that turning out for Brisbane :D
 
Geelong would only have picks to trade.

Hawkins, Taylor, Brown, Gillies, Mackie, Selwood, Menzel, Duncan and Varcoe would obviously be untouchable.

I'd consider trading Jacobs for Taylor Hunt and a draft pick.

Hunt is quick, powerful and a good kick.

Podsiadly will be nothing but a trivia question.

They need to develop Hawkins forward in tandem with their Mitch Brown.
 
If Cameron Wood was worth pick 14 then Sauce is worth a first round pick.

Cameron Wood wasn't worth pick #14 though, was he?

Collingwood overpaid massively because they thought (with a lot of accuracy) that a good ruckman was the missing link in a genuine flag tilt.

Wood wasn't the answer, but he was all that was available.

Warnock and Mummy are better points of comparison.

As for Sellar, he'd really just be a sweetener; say Bock pick was undervalued, first rounder overvalued, Sellar would be a good equaliser to the Bock pick as he's exactly what you need, and could still be a potentially very good player (especially with Gibbs in his ear); but it is clearly a gamble.
 

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Cameron Wood wasn't worth pick #14 though, was he?

Collingwood overpaid massively because they thought (with a lot of accuracy) that a good ruckman was the missing link in a genuine flag tilt.

Wood wasn't the answer, but he was all that was available.

Warnock and Mummy are better points of comparison.

As for Sellar, he'd really just be a sweetener; say Bock pick was undervalued, first rounder overvalued, Sellar would be a good equaliser to the Bock pick as he's exactly what you need, and could still be a potentially very good player (especially with Gibbs in his ear); but it is clearly a gamble.

how about Anderson for Sellar - thats more equitable than Jacobs
 
Warnock and Mummy are better points of comparison.

No they're not because both clubs were forced into letting them go for a lot less than what they're worth, We won't have that problem.

As for Sellar, he'd really just be a sweetener; say Bock pick was undervalued, first rounder overvalued

Except the first rounder is not overvalued because it's really worth about pick 22 thanks to the GC taking players last year.
 
Mackie is incredibly overrated. Yet another decent player made to look far better than he is by the team around him. Compare West Coast 05-07 to West Coast 08-10.

Terribly overrated.

The fact is that it is not possible for any team to get 22 stars out onto the paddock.
Some can look better than they are for the ability to fulfil a specific role within their enviroment.
Take them out from what they know and their deficiencies become glaringly obvious.
 
Geelong would only have picks to trade.

Hawkins, Taylor, Brown, Gillies, Mackie, Selwood, Menzel, Duncan and Varcoe would obviously be untouchable.

Do you really think Hawkins is so untouchable?
I doubt Geelong would have the balls to throw his name up, but one in five reasonable games in such a professional outfit is just not good enough, and Mackie: You must be kidding, right?
 
Mackie might be a player they could trade, but you'd think they'd want to hang onto him with Milburn, Ling, Rooke and a couple of other veterans nearly gone.

Hawkins wouldn't be traded with Podsiadly and Brown their next best options.

Hawkins has kicked 21 goals with bags of 3, 4 and 3 this year.

Shouldn't be judged harshly because his coach plays him as their second ruck.
 

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Terribly overrated.

The fact is that it is not possible for any team to get 22 stars out onto the paddock.
Some can look better than they are for the ability to fulfil a specific role within their enviroment.
Take them out from what they know and their deficiencies become glaringly obvious.


and it often happens with defenders, they play in a well drilled, well oiled defensive unit, the same system week in week out and are made to look better than what they are. mackie is a classic case of this. throw jason blake into that aswell
 
Hawkins wouldn't be traded with Podsiadly and Brown their next best options.

Hawkins has kicked 21 goals with bags of 3, 4 and 3 this year.

Shouldn't be judged harshly because his coach plays him as their second ruck.

Granted, I may have been a little harsh on Hawkins, but boy does he tend to look lost at times and not for only last nights game.
Geelong people still love him and see the upside, but I'm sure even they would like to see things move along a little quicker with him, in consideration of the touted potential.

Ruck is not his go and if anyone tells me again that Geelong don't need ruckmen, I'll..........:rolleyes:
 
Walker would probably be rated as the guy who made the AFL team of the week three times in four weeks this year, was BOG as a CHB until he broke his collarbone in another game (vs Geelong) and played a very good game as a medium forward in the finals. You guys seem to have forgotten the reaming he gave you in round four.
Oh please in the 1st 6 weeks of the season everyone gave us a reaming! We kicked 10 goals only once in those 6 weeks and were clearly all over the shop. Any half decent player was tearing us a new one.

I find it hypocritical that people have to resort to bringing other players down top pump up your boys!

Since you lot are so ademant that you will be getting the likes of Talia, McKernan, Davis, Taylor Walker, Knights, Otten, Pick 14 et al.....which one if you is game enough to put a wager on it?!

I am willing to pay up $100 if I am wrong but I am clamining that you will NOT be getting ANY of Talia, Taylor Walker, Davis, Knights, Otten, McKernan! I will go one further and say that the only way you will get pick 14 is if pick 18 (or another 1st rounder) or another key player (read NOT Sam Jacobs) is coming Adelaide's way.

Who is game enough to put their money where their mouth is?!
 
Oh please in the 1st 6 weeks of the season everyone gave us a reaming! We kicked 10 goals only once in those 6 weeks and were clearly all over the shop. Any half decent player was tearing us a new one.

I find it hypocritical that people have to resort to bringing other players down top pump up your boys!

Since you lot are so ademant that you will be getting the likes of Talia, McKernan, Davis, Taylor Walker, Knights, Otten, Pick 14 et al.....which one if you is game enough to put a wager on it?!

I am willing to pay up $100 if I am wrong but I am clamining that you will NOT be getting ANY of Talia, Taylor Walker, Davis, Knights, Otten, McKernan! I will go one further and say that the only way you will get pick 14 is if pick 18 (or another 1st rounder) or another key player (read NOT Sam Jacobs) is coming Adelaide's way.

Who is game enough to put their money where their mouth is?!

Knights has just re-signed for 2 years, so no we won't be getting Knights :rolleyes:
 
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