News Crows eye Walker, Jacobs

[GoBlues!]

I wouldn't lose any sleep if Carlton refused to send the 3rd rounder back to Adelaide.

Jacobs & Walker for Sellar + Adelaide's 2nd + Bock compensation pick is still close enough to fair.

Htf is trading a struggling Sellar + 2 late picks in a compromised draft for Jacobs and AW fair??

If Jacobs and AW are considered good enough to be in your best 22 then fairness suggests you need to give up a decent tall. Otherwise I'd expect (and hope) the Blues to just say no deal - keep your 2nd round + Bock picks and try your luck getting a quality ruckman and midfielder in the draft.

Re: Best team for 2011
Sellar vs McKernan is neither here nor there, as neither have really shown much at this level yet. I suspect that the 2nd ruck slot will go to Jacobs if the trade goes through. More to the point, I suspect the 1st slot will go to Jacobs and the 2nd to Maric, forcing McKernan back to the emergency list.

Assuming we land Jacobs & Walker, our team would become:
FB: Johncock Rutten Stevens
HB: Otten Davis Doughty
C: Mackay Thompson A. Walker
HF: Knights T. Walker Henderson
FF: Porplyzia Tippett Dangerfield
R: Jacobs Vince van Berlo (c)
Int: Maric Reilly Douglas Sloane

Emerg: McKernan, Symes, Jaensch

 

[AFC979810]

Htf is trading a struggling Sellar + 2 late picks in a compromised draft for Jacobs and AW fair??

If Jacobs and AW are considered good enough to be in your best 22 then fairness suggests you need to give up a decent tall. Otherwise I'd expect (and hope) the Blues to just say no deal - keep your 2nd round + Bock picks and try your luck getting a quality ruckman and midfielder in the draft.

To be honest, I don't think trading Sellar + 2 late picks is equal to Jacobs and AW is fair.

However, I think that many people are being a little harsh on Jimmy Sellar.

Both players were drafted in 2006 with James Sellar being 11months younger.

Both have played around 15 games in their career. I do agree that Jacobs looked very good against Sydney, but everyone must remember that these players are still very very very young. Whilst I think Jacobs has showed a few more glimpses of potential - it is not enough to say 'Sellar is a spud and Jacobs is the next Dean Cox'....

Will be very interesting to see what the people who actually know within the clubs of Adelaide and Carlton come up with during trade week.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

Htf is trading a struggling Sellar + 2 late picks in a compromised draft for Jacobs and AW fair??

If Jacobs and AW are considered good enough to be in your best 22 then fairness suggests you need to give up a decent tall. Otherwise I'd expect (and hope) the Blues to just say no deal - keep your 2nd round + Bock picks and try your luck getting a quality ruckman and midfielder in the draft.

if Ratten is actually keen on Sellar this will suggest that he may and well be in your best 22 given your need for a KP Defender

it is horses for courses, Sellar struggles to make our best 22 given our depth in KPP's however he has greater opportunity at your club to play in his best position which is simply not available at Adelaide

 

[Sin City]

Sellar struggles to make our best 22 given our depth in KPP's

That and he's been shit so far.

 

[Juddys_navy_blues]

That and he's been shit so far.

Agree, its ot asy break into a team if you are shit. Trade board should go into meltdown after today when its all people have left to comment on, then actual trade week itself will be its normal 20 threads on 1 trade and all saying the same thing. Bring on 2011..

 

[Azul]

if Ratten is actually keen on Sellar this will suggest that he may and well be in your best 22 given your need for a KP Defender

Do we have ANY evidence Ratten is keen on Sellar?

In any case he'd be no walk up start for round 1. For much of the year Ratts has played only 2 tall defenders back. Sellar wouldn't displace Jamison or Bower at this stage. He'd be competing for a spot with Austin and White, who spent much of the year injured.

 

[GoBlues!]

To be honest, I don't think trading Sellar + 2 late picks is equal to Jacobs and AW is fair.

However, I think that many people are being a little harsh on Jimmy Sellar.

Both players were drafted in 2006 with James Sellar being 11months younger.

Both have played around 15 games in their career. I do agree that Jacobs looked very good against Sydney, but everyone must remember that these players are still very very very young. Whilst I think Jacobs has showed a few more glimpses of potential - it is not enough to say 'Sellar is a spud and Jacobs is the next Dean Cox'....

Will be very interesting to see what the people who actually know within the clubs of Adelaide and Carlton come up with during trade week.

Actually I was quoting an Adelaide poster (Vader) who had Jacobs and A.Walker in your Best 22 for 2011, and surprisingly rated Jacobs ahead of Maric in the first ruck.

Not sure if Sellar is a spud or not, he just hasn't played enough games or any of note - I haven't seen him play in the SAFL. On the other hand some of your posters, like Vader, clearly know a lot more about the ability/potential of Jacobs and AW to the point of rating them highly enough to have them in your best 22.

If Jacobs and AW are considered good enough to be in your best 22 then surely its not unreasonable to ask for at least 1 decent quality KPP who can step into our best 22 side and perform from day 1 (ie. someone who's shown something in the seniors) rather than a potential maybe who hasn't shown much yet.

 

[parrot]

To be honest, I don't think trading Sellar + 2 late picks is equal to Jacobs and AW is fair.
.....

I think you know pick 14 and your 2nd round pick will be headed to Carlton IF both Jacobs and Walker go. The area of debate is what more will the Crows need to throw in to get the deal through. The bidding war hasn't started yet. There'll be other Clubs involved.

 

[Paladin]

Do we have ANY evidence Ratten is keen on Sellar?

In any case he'd be no walk up start for round 1. For much of the year Ratts has played only 2 tall defenders back. Sellar wouldn't displace Jamison or Bower at this stage. He'd be competing for a spot with Austin and White, who spent much of the year injured.

Possibly the fact big Jimmy has been at Carlton getting checked out would suggest Ratten is interested dont u think?

 

[stabface]

Possibly the fact big Jimmy has been at Carlton getting checked out would suggest Ratten is interested dont u think?

That's a rumour, for all you know he was sitting at home pondering about his career in the SANFL.

 

[Azul]

Possibly the fact big Jimmy has been at Carlton getting checked out would suggest Ratten is interested dont u think?

As a courtesy to his U18 Glenelg teammates, sure. But remember we had Bradshaw, Rischitelli and Maguire visit us last year too and nothing came of it.

 

[PooMonkey]

and all of the above had fitness tests also!

 

[macca23]

I think you know pick 14 and your 2nd round pick will be headed to Carlton IF both Jacobs and Walker go. The area of debate is what more will the Crows need to throw in to get the deal through. The bidding war hasn't started yet. There'll be other Clubs involved.

Not for Jacobs there won't.

His manager has been talking to Adelaide for some time, and now has been quoted publicly as saying that Jacobs will only be at an Adelaide club if he leaves Carlton.

Port Adelaide have stated that they won't be pursuing Jacobs.

Jacobs has now requested his manager to meet with Adelaide this week to discuss what's in it for Jacobs both playing wise and financially.

Given that Adelaide are chasing Jacobs, I have no doubt he'll be well satisfied on both those fronts. On top of that there is the go home factor.

Walker is a different proposition altogether, being Victorian and under contract. It'd be no surprise for Adelaide to have to compete with other clubs for his services.

 

[Sekaj]

Adelaide's main advantage on Walker over the other clubs will be the money we have to throw around after some big retirements and Bock's departure.

 

[GoBlues!]

Adelaide's main advantage on Walker over the other clubs will be the money we have to throw around after some big retirements and Bock's departure.

You need more than just money to throw at Walker to get - he is under contract sport.

 

[KennyHunter9]

Not for Jacobs there won't.

His manager has been talking to Adelaide for some time, and now has been quoted publicly as saying that Jacobs will only be at an Adelaide club if he leaves Carlton.

Port Adelaide have stated that they won't be pursuing Jacobs.

Jacobs has now requested his manager to meet with Adelaide this week to discuss what's in it for Jacobs both playing wise and financially.

Given that Adelaide are chasing Jacobs, I have no doubt he'll be well satisfied on both those fronts. On top of that there is the go home factor.

Walker is a different proposition altogether, being Victorian and under contract. It'd be no surprise for Adelaide to have to compete with other clubs for his services.

Jacobs' main objective will be to secure a #1 ruck position, so he can play every game in 2010.

He could be #1 ruck at Adelaide, Geelong or Richmond, and at least #2 at Port, Melbourne and Hawthorn.

To get to Adelaide, Adelaide need to do a reasonable deal (whatever that is). You won't get him for unders, even though he is uncontracted, because of the demand for a player like him. There's no way he'd get past Richmond in a PSD. Richmond also have plenty of cap room with a young list.

So we'll get a fair deal for Jacobs and perhaps be slightly ahead for Walker given that he is contracted.

 

[Silvagnis]

Thank God we've got another week of footy to complement this thread.

The AFL will go straight into trade week and not delay it by a week.

 

[Sekaj]

You need more than just money to throw at Walker to get - he is under contract sport.

And so would the other clubs we are competing with for his services.

I was just saying our advantage in terms of Walker's personal preference as to where he would like to go. His manager has already publicly indicated the Crows as his preference.

 

[WALL-e]

Thank God we've got another week of footy to complement this thread.

The AFL will go straight into trade week and not delay it by a week.

How good is one less week of rubbish BF speculation.

Best thing to happen to trade week. Now we just need one more point to St. Kilda.

 

[Kramer1]

And so would the other clubs we are competing with for his services.

I was just saying our advantage in terms of Walker's personal preference as to where he would like to go. His manager has already publicly indicated the Crows as his preference.

He has?

I remain doubtful AW is going anywhere, if he does I think Everitt looks more appealing than anything that has been raised on the Crows board.

 

[Sekaj]

He has?

I remain doubtful AW is going anywhere, if he does I think Everitt looks more appealing than anything that has been raised on the Crows board.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a.../story-e6frf9jf-1225923992200?from=public_rss

Walker's manager on Wednesday confirmed the highly-rated defender is "genuinely interested" in moving to the Crows.

The fact that he is still contracted to Carlton does make it more difficult, I agree.

 

[Ryan Dixon Webb]

Do people think that Everitt could hold down a key position?

 

[Stamos]

Do people think that Everitt could hold down a key position?

No. He is a tall flanker, not at CHB.

 

[PooMonkey]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a.../story-e6frf9jf-1225923992200?from=public_rss



The fact that he is still contracted to Carlton does make it more difficult, I agree.

That article is quite old now.....
Not very relevent.
The fact is we were into Everitt big time last year and the dogs wouldnt take a second rounder for him. This year is different.
Dogs like the idea of Walker and the Blues are still keen on Everitt.

Everitt also is a much better proposition than anything the Crows look like throwing up at this stage.

As far as I can tell, it only is a good thing for Carlton and what we can get from a Walker trade.

 

[thylacine60]

Wasn't overly sold on Everitt's finals campaign in the VFL but yeah, I've always liked the rangy versatile flanker - think he has fair upside.