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...your rucks are shit!...
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Our rucks are at such an elite level that all top 3 (Kreuze, 206 and Sauce) would easily be no. 1 ruck at Crows :thumbsu:

Guys, you might want to check a couple of things just to put this into perspective.

Here are the last 5 games Crows/Carlton.


Ad Stat Carl
41 Hitouts 33


Ad Stat Carl
33 Hitouts 44


Ad Stat Carl
46 Hitouts 34


Ad Stat Carl
42 Hitouts 21


Ad Stat Carl
55 Hitouts 17

I think you're wrong.
 
Guys, you might want to check a couple of things just to put this into perspective.

Here are the last 5 games Crows/Carlton.


Ad Stat Carl
41 Hitouts 33


Ad Stat Carl
33 Hitouts 44


Ad Stat Carl
46 Hitouts 34


Ad Stat Carl
42 Hitouts 21


Ad Stat Carl
55 Hitouts 17

I think you're wrong.

The last 5 games probably goes back the last 3 or 4 years. At that stage, Kruezer was just entering AFL, Jacobs was still developing, we didn't have Warnock and Hampson was also still developing. Who was your ruckman 5 games ago BTW?
 
Guys, you might want to check a couple of things just to put this into perspective.

Here are the last 5 games Crows/Carlton.


Ad Stat Carl
41 Hitouts 33


Ad Stat Carl
33 Hitouts 44


Ad Stat Carl
46 Hitouts 34


Ad Stat Carl
42 Hitouts 21


Ad Stat Carl
55 Hitouts 17

I think you're wrong.

I could pull out stats for the last 10 years and have it in our favour....What's that got to do with the ability of Jacobs and co. who have only started to really shine midway this season.

Jacobs and Warnock had a HUGE influence in the final this year and all in footy can see it, despite their immense hate for Carlton :thumbsu:
 
Guys, you might want to check a couple of things just to put this into perspective.

Here are the last 5 games Crows/Carlton.


Ad Stat Carl
41 Hitouts 33


Ad Stat Carl
33 Hitouts 44


Ad Stat Carl
46 Hitouts 34


Ad Stat Carl
42 Hitouts 21


Ad Stat Carl
55 Hitouts 17

I think you're wrong.
hahaha what a stupid comparison...

only the last couple of games are needed...

We had the worst ruck stock 2 years ago... but guess what... they developed...

Last year you had about 20 players going up for ruck contests... disadvantaging you on the ground... hence us killing you in the contest

the year before we had still under-developed ruckmans out rucking you

anything before that is not required as our rucks were little skinny kids...

Our ruck stocks right now will shit all over yours...

Jacobs alone would destroy your ruck stock... all 20 of them that'll go up in the contest...
 
hahaha what a stupid comparison...

only the last couple of games are needed...

We had the worst ruck stock 2 years ago... but guess what... they developed...

Last year you had about 20 players going up for ruck contests... disadvantaging you on the ground... hence us killing you in the contest

the year before we had still under-developed ruckmans out rucking you

anything before that is not required as our rucks were little skinny kids...

Our ruck stocks right now will shit all over yours...

Jacobs alone would destroy your ruck stock... all 20 of them that'll go up in the contest...

bahahaha - look at all the excuses and backpedaling when a few facts are brought to the table. Great work:thumbsu:
 
hahaha what a stupid comparison...

only the last couple of games are needed...

We had the worst ruck stock 2 years ago... but guess what... they developed...

Last year you had about 20 players going up for ruck contests... disadvantaging you on the ground... hence us killing you in the contest

the year before we had still under-developed ruckmans out rucking you

anything before that is not required as our rucks were little skinny kids...

Our ruck stocks right now will shit all over yours...

Jacobs alone would destroy your ruck stock... all 20 of them that'll go up in the contest...

My apologies, I'll never let facts get in the way again....but anyway, if only the last couple of games are needed, then you are still wrong. :)
 
Guys, you might want to check a couple of things just to put this into perspective.

Here are the last 5 games Crows/Carlton.


Ad Stat Carl
41 Hitouts 33


Ad Stat Carl
33 Hitouts 44


Ad Stat Carl
46 Hitouts 34


Ad Stat Carl
42 Hitouts 21


Ad Stat Carl
55 Hitouts 17

I think you're wrong.

In the most recent game, 7 of Adelaide's hitouts were shared between Burton, Edwards & Cook, making it virtually break even, despite our 2 rucks (Kreuzer & Warnock) being less experienced/mature than the Adelaide ruck division (Maric & Tippett).
 
The last 5 games probably goes back the last 3 or 4 years. At that stage, Kruezer was just entering AFL, Jacobs was still developing, we didn't have Warnock and Hampson was also still developing. Who was your ruckman 5 games ago BTW?


The crows ruckman 5 games ago was J Griffin.

These five games go back to beginning of 2008...when Maric wasn't playing.
 

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bahahaha - look at all the excuses and backpedaling when a few facts are brought to the table. Great work:thumbsu:
Our rucks are better because John Nicholls shits all over any adelaide player that has ever existed... that is a fact... so do I win?
 
bahahaha - look at all the excuses and backpedaling when a few facts are brought to the table. Great work:thumbsu:

How the f*** does Jacobs ability 4 years ago have anything to do with his ability today? It was a dumb argument and you're even dumber for thinking otherwise.
 
My apologies, I'll never let facts get in the way again....but anyway, if only the last couple of games are needed, then you are still wrong. :)
Lol... Elvis Presley was fat... that is a fact... it also has nothing to do with what we're talking about
 
You're missing the point that Adelaide would give Sauce a spot in your starting 22, or he'd be a waste of $300k p/a.

Crows obviously rate Jacobs and would understand why we are asking for pick 14.

But I understand where Crows are coming from in not wanting to give it up...the pick 18 and Sauce trade for #14/Talia and #33 is the fairest option I can see
 
Guys, they're Crows fans. It's a waste of time trying to talk to them. They want to bring up stats from the past when the ruck in question was a kid on the rookie list. It has nothing to do with how good he is now, and how good the rest of our rucks are, but they seem to want to ignore that.
 
How the f*** does Jacobs ability 4 years ago have anything to do with his ability today? It was a dumb argument and you're even dumber for thinking otherwise.

Now firstly, This has nothing to do with Jacob's ability.

It is countering the fact that Adelaide's 'rucks are shit' and that Carlton's rucks are 'elite' according to the originally quoted posts. Which it does. Rant all you like.
 

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Guys, they're Crows fans. It's a waste of time trying to talk to them. They want to bring up stats from the past when the ruck in question was a kid on the rookie list. It has nothing to do with how good he is now, and how good the rest of our rucks are, but they seem to want to ignore that.

OK fine, Please counter with you own facts and reasoned arguments on how your rucks are elite and ours are shit and we are in desperate need of Jacobs. You seem to forget, he came to us.

Resorting to childish name calling may work in the school yard, but you all look rather silly on a forum.
 
Now firstly, This has nothing to do with Jacob's ability.

It is countering the fact that Adelaide's 'rucks are shit' and that Carlton's rucks are 'elite' according to the originally quoted posts. Which it does. Rant all you like.

Inconceivable! (did you see what I did there? :p)

Firstly, those stats are largely irrelevant considering how young our ruckman are.

Secondly, Jacobs and Warnock barely played last year.

Thirdly, those stats are useless because we are talking about the now, not two years ago when our oldest ruckman would have been 21.

Fourthly, Cloke was tucking for us then. :o
 
You seem to forget, he came to us.
I presume you base this on some deeper knowledge of talks between the Crows and his management which would have started mid year or earlier - knowing exactly who instigated talks, and not just on the media report that "Jacobs requests trade to the Crows".

Right?
 
You seem to forget, he came to us.

Your club rate Jacobs ahead of all it current ruck options. Hence a contract on the table for more money and longer term than any of the existing rucks.

Given this is the case your agrument would be that all your current ruck stocks are to be valued at 50+ picks in the daft?
 
Does anyone know what the compensation pick that Hawthorn received for Campbell Brown was? They are offering that for Hale.

Melbourne have made a better offer for Hale than what we are expected to accept for Sauce.
 
Does anyone know what the compensation pick that Hawthorn received for Campbell Brown was? They are offering that for Hale.

Melbourne have made a better offer for Hale than what we are expected to accept for Sauce.

Case of Hale being contracted & a bidding war between Melb & Hawks. Different scenario for Sauce at the moment. Be interesting to see how it pans out.
 
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