Crows Mock/Hope Drafts

[IddyBiddy]

Ok, Saying Schoenmakers at pick 28 is a pretty big stretch; but then saying pick 44 for him? Thats pretty unreasonable.
When I post my 'dream draft' I will put Ryan pick 28.. but I highly doubt it.
Ash Smith at pick 60.. thats gotta be a joke
He is one of the most promicing players in the draft.. have you seen his kick? Pretty amazing!
Besides that, if that happened I would probably cry

Pick 10 - Hamish Hartlett; I think he will get picked up by either Essendon, Brisbane or NM.

Steele Sidebottom; Bet your excited VC Steele could slip out of the top 10 (wont get futher than Collingwood) but wouldnt be supriced if he is picked up by the same teams I have mentioned above. Also there is a strong word going around he will get picked up by Essendon as they need goal kicking midfielders.
And why like him VC!? Hes a Port Fan

Steve Hill; Talented player with a recent article that one of the WA teams might take him ahead of Rich (which I doubt..). One I would like to see get picked up.

Jackson Trengove; As you all know, I am a fan.. Dont think I want him as much now..

Pick 28 - Ryan Schoenmakers; Once again I will say this is a stretch. Dont be supriced if he is picked up in the PP's. As you probably all know I am a HUGE fan of him.

Rhys O'Keefe; Awesome player who can play midfield / back.. depends who we really get with pick 10.

Aaron Cornelious; Again, I am dreaming. Future star FF/HF of the AFL. If he gets some meat on him, he will be amazing.

Ash Smith; Loving this guy. Plays excelent back and midfield with a HUGE kick on him. I guess he plays well up forward too.

Nick Suban; Tough defender who is very skillfull. Let down is his speed but very strong arund the hips which helps him alot in tackeling situations.

Pick 44 - Matt DeBour; Pretty good talent for a midfielder. Can play as a flanker.

Tom Rockliff; Highly doubt it. Late 2nd rounder for him.. but if he does drop will add some skill up in the forward line.

David Zaharakis; Earlier this year, rated as high as pick 16 or so.. Fantastic speed and will be supriced if he drops this low although there is a chance.

Tom Allright; Can you tell me your thoughts on him VC? I have only seen about 2 games of him and liked the looks of him in the backline/midfield. Strong player with excelent hands.

Mitch Brown; If we dont get a KP before hand, Brown might be the way to go.

Pick 60 - Phil Davis; Everyone here seems to like him. Havent seen much but might be handy down back.

Adam Cockie; Only have seen a bit but seriously looks good to me.

....

Dont really mind who we get now, no-one really stands out for me

Nice post. Phil Davis at 60 seems a stretch though.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

Nice post. Phil Davis at 60 seems a stretch though.

Thanks
Yeah I havent seen much of him so dont really know where approximantly he will go.

 

[dylan123]

mmm i forgot about Matt DeBour he seemed to be able to find a lot of the ball in the NAB under 18's. be interesting to see where he goes

 

[dplggr47]

Thanks
Yeah I havent seen much of him so dont really know where approximantly he will go.

an even bigger stretch; Emma Quayle had Davis as Crows possible first pick. who knows where he will go.

Steele Sidebottom; Bet your excited VC Steele could slip out of the top 10 (wont get futher than Collingwood) but wouldnt be supriced if he is picked up by the same teams I have mentioned above. Also there is a strong word going around he will get picked up by Essendon as they need goal kicking midfielders.
And why like him VC!? Hes a Port Fan

Jackson Trengove; As you all know, I am a fan.. Dont think I want him as much now..

don't really care who the boys support before entering the AFL themselves. would be stoked to get Sidebottom, as i seriously doubt Hartlett would slide and Steele seems the best bet of a slide to our pick (other than McKernan if the crows are interested in him, because i doubt he'd go top 9). then there's the vic metro boy who thinks he's too good for Adelaide...wonder who that is; i bet we might have an idea after the draft is over.

i see you're no longer a big Trengove fan...fads come and go. don't get too attached to any of these recruits until any of them are actually picked up by the crows (and only 5 of them will). a months time, you'll have an avatar of the crows latest pick 10.

btw, it's spelt 'surprise', and not 'suprice'.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

an even bigger stretch; Emma Quayle had Davis as Crows possible first pick. who knows where he will go.

Very strange... hmm.

don't really care who the boys support before entering the AFL themselves. would be stoked to get Sidebottom, as i seriously doubt Hartlett would slide and Steele seems the best bet of a slide to our pick (other than McKernan if the crows are interested in him, because i doubt he'd go top 9). then there's the vic metro boy who thinks he's too good for Adelaide...wonder who that is; i bet we might have an idea after the draft is over.

i see you're no longer a big Trengove fan...fads come and go. don't get too attached to any of these recruits until any of them are actually picked up by the crows (and only 5 of them will). a months time, you'll have an avatar of the crows latest pick 10.

btw, it's spelt 'surprise', and not 'suprice'.

Hahaha, sorry.. supriSe is always the word I get corrected at at school I have no idea why

Yeah I think I need to change my avatar But seriously I have so many I want (you can brag all you want... as others have before) I dont know who to pick.
Maybe I should just keep Dangerfields up..
But I do see Hartlett slipping if Brisbane get Swift, Hurley falls down to NM and Essendon pick up Trengove/Sidebottom.
I think Sidebottom will suit us best as he can go up forward and is also very effective in the midfield.

 

[dplggr47]

Very strange... hmm.


Hahaha, sorry.. surpriSe is always the word I get corrected at at school I have no idea why

Yeah I think I need to change my avatar But seriously I have so many I want (you can brag all you want... as others have before) I dont know who to pick.
Maybe I should just keep Dangerfields up..
But I do see Hartlett slipping if Brisbane get Swift, Hurley falls down to NM and Essendon pick up Trengove/Sidebottom.
I think Sidebottom will suit us best as he can go up forward and is also very effective in the midfield.

i feel Hartlett slipping to the Crows pick is 2 in a million; so i'm saying there's a chance, but he seems to be ranked so high, it'd be a miracle if he slipped past all those clubs (Carlton, Richmond, Brisbane, North, etc). Sidebottom is more realistic hope or whoever else slips,..is what i'm expecting...or unless the Crows pull out a shock pick.

 

[XztatiK]

Whoever mentioned Cornelius, good call!

I think he could turn out to be the 2nd best KF in this draft. I'm not sure whether to consider him an option at 10 or 28 - most people have him around 20. He would be great though.

I'd be very happy with Broadbent or DeBour at 28 if Schoenmakers isn't there. I'm sure Craigy will be attracted to Broadbents engine.

No comments on Luke Shuey, I would be lovin him at 44. Think he was top 5 in the sprint at the draft camp, which we need in the middle right now.

Annnnnd, what about Tyson Slattery? One of few SAliens to get a league run this year. Seems a bit of a Fevola/Didak character though - wouldn't be suprised if he pissed on a restaurant window or something

 

[-VC-]

Cornelius. I don't reckon I'd even pick him at 44.

Shuey is supremely under-rated by the BigFooty group think. If he's there at 28 we'd be doing well to take him, but IMO he won't be. The only problem is that he busts out this mad 20m sprint at Draft Camp. I've been watching him pretty closely for the past two years and I had no idea he could do that. Doesn't use his pace enough in game situations. Needs to develop more of an outside game to use that weapon. Hard as nails though.

 

[cmndstab]

Scott Thompson was a Port fan before he came to the Crows too. I think you'd very quickly become a fan of whatever club you played against. You'd probably always have a soft spot for your opposition but I doubt very much that Sidebottom or anyone else would be anything other than a rabid Crows supporters after a preseason here.


I keep getting the feeling that Hartlett is going to slide. There just seems to be so many good Victorian and WA players that he could end up coming to us, which would be a dream. Of course, we may not pick him anyway!


I'll keep an eye on Shuey, VC. I don't post in D&T much but I read it a fair bit and it's funny how much of a varied opinion there is on him. Some people rate him as one of the players in the draft, others don't even include him in their full phantom draft.

 

[James23]

Hmmm..i've got a bad feeling that Hartlett will slide to us and we'll pick someone totally out of the blue, just like last year. Resulting in alot of unhappy posters

 

[XztatiK]

Hmmm..i've got a bad feeling that Hartlett will slide to us and we'll pick someone totally out of the blue, just like last year. Resulting in alot of unhappy posters

If that happens I will piss on a Toyota... or a Rendell.

 

[cmndstab]

Hmmm..i've got a bad feeling that Hartlett will slide to us and we'll pick someone totally out of the blue, just like last year. Resulting in alot of unhappy posters

I really hope this does happen, not just because it will be hilarious, but because if there is someone in the draft we rate higher than Hartlett, chances are they're a pretty exceptional player.

 

[dplggr47]

Hmmm..i've got a bad feeling that Hartlett will slide to us and we'll pick someone totally out of the blue, just like last year. Resulting in alot of unhappy posters

i would think Hartlett is rated higher than pick 10...so if he slides, i'm thinking the Crows would pounce. (but i doubt he'll slide).

 

[cmndstab]

i would think Hartlett is rated higher than pick 10...so if he slides, i'm thinking the Crows would pounce. (but i doubt he'll slide).

Ebert was rated (by us) higher than 10 as well. But then there was another player we rated even higher still available.

Assuming we trust our recruiting staff to rate everyone in order, if they pass on Hartlett they obviously have someone they consider damn special in mind.

 

[DJ75]

I have it on pretty good authority that we have narrowed our pick 10 wish list to 3 players.
I understand we are waiting to see if a gun mid slides to us (maybe Sidebottom or Hartlett). If they don't we will pick McKernan with pick 10 (which worries me). If he is gone it will be Phil Davis.
Make no mistake, Davis will be gone by pick 20. Hawthorn are very keen to take Davis with their first pick.
My tip is pick 10 will either be McKernan or Davis (and I hope it is Davis).

 

[-VC-]

I have it on pretty good authority that we have narrowed our pick 10 wish list to 3 players.
I understand we are waiting to see if a gun mid slides to us (maybe Sidebottom or Hartlett). If they don't we will pick McKernan with pick 10 (which worries me). If he is gone it will be Phil Davis.
Make no mistake, Davis will be gone by pick 20. Hawthorn are very keen to take Davis with their first pick.
My tip is pick 10 will either be McKernan or Davis (and I hope it is Davis).

Davis to Hawthorn makes a lot of sense after the Dew/McKenna debate at the Hawks draft table last year.

Based on this info, for it to be Davis to the Crows that means no gun mid slides AND McKernan goes inside 10. I don't see that happening. If this is true we'd be taking McKernan or a sliding mid.

 

[FAITH]

I have it on pretty good authority that we have narrowed our pick 10 wish list to 3 players.
I understand we are waiting to see if a gun mid slides to us (maybe Sidebottom or Hartlett). If they don't we will pick McKernan with pick 10 (which worries me). If he is gone it will be Phil Davis.
Make no mistake, Davis will be gone by pick 20. Hawthorn are very keen to take Davis with their first pick.
My tip is pick 10 will either be McKernan or Davis (and I hope it is Davis).

Ive been told within crows camp that Hurley, McKernan, Lisle and Trengrove are rated slightly ahead of Davis.
Unless ive been told a porky?

 

[dplggr47]

i honestly don't see McKernan going in the top 9...i mean, i hope North can pick him up, but seriously, they don't need another tall do they... i'm hoping for a gun to slide, but that's wishful thinking.

 

[DJ75]

FAITH, I think what you're saying goes reasonably well with what I have been told.
Hurley will def be gone by our pick, Trengrove possibly as well. I'm pretty convinced we will go with McKernan who seem more suited to the forward lines. Other teams, like Hawthorn, are looking at Davis as a CHB (although I think he could also play forward).

I am worried about McKernan. Vic Crow, what is your take on McKernan? Is he that good? Could he possibly still be available at 28 if we didn't take him at 10?

 

[FAITH]

FAITH, I think what you're saying goes reasonably well with what I have been told.
Hurley will def be gone by our pick, Trengrove possibly as well. I'm pretty convinced we will go with McKernan who seem more suited to the forward lines. Other teams, like Hawthorn, are looking at Davis as a CHB (although I think he could also play forward).

I am worried about McKernan. Vic Crow, what is your take on McKernan? Is he that good? Could he possibly still be available at 28 if we didn't take him at 10?

No Chance!
First rounder.

 

[dplggr47]

No Chance!
First rounder.

agree; no chance! not guaranteed he'll go first round though, as he might slide to early 2nd round...there's just so many picks between 10 and 28.

 

[adelaide_40]

I hope that a gun midfielder slides to pick 10 hartlett or Sidebottom sound like good prospects, I admit only going by what ive heard on BF but from the sounds of it these two will be guns and just what we need.

 

[Ruckman08]

I'll keep an eye on Shuey, VC. I don't post in D&T much but I read it a fair bit and it's funny how much of a varied opinion there is on him. Some people rate him as one of the players in the draft, others don't even include him in their full phantom draft.

mate i can tell ya right now, if shuey doesnt get drafted, will be the biggest joke in draft history. But like vic crow said, he doesnt use his pace enough in games. But i spose at an afl club, they teach that sort of stuff.

 

[-VC-]

I am worried about McKernan. Vic Crow, what is your take on McKernan? Is he that good? Could he possibly still be available at 28 if we didn't take him at 10?

I like him. He's good. But yeah, as much as I'm trying to play down the fears of him being a tweener who mightn't come good, well, I admit that I do have a bit more uncertainty over McKernan than a few of the other guys I rate in the Top 20. Of the guys in my 20 I have the biggest question marks over him and Blease. Upside tremendous, downside could be 0 games.

I agree with the assessment that he needs more confidence to realise his potential. I reckon that sort of thing can be taught to some degree, but the fact that it's sold separately means I'm not so sure he'll ever have the cockiness that I like seeing in big forwards. I know the same thing has been mentioned in relation to Tippett before.

He's got tremendous athletic ability and I rate him at about 11 or 12 at the moment, but it is admittedly more based on upside than sure thing. Then again, there's likely to be bigger question marks over talls the further they drift outside the Top 5 anyway.

 

[cmndstab]

It's definitely hard to imagine both McKernan AND the big-name mids all being gone by pick 10. It's more than a safe bet that Rich, Natanui, Watts, Vickery and Hurley are all gone by our pick. Could Hartlett, Sidebottom, McKernan and Ziebell (I'm assuming they rate Ziebell) all go before our pick? I mean, of course they could, I've listed nine players. But surely ONE of them would slide


Edit: Is Hill now a gun midfielder or is that just BF reading too much into a tabloid article from the western states?