Crows plan Walker talks!

[StuPendus]

In reference to the poor standard of living in Western Sydney for any potential recruit to have to deal with, Is there a stipulation in their contract that they must reside in the western part of Sydney?

I would hardly think that GWS would be compelling their star players to live in the confines of their boundary.

More likely they would be rubbing shoulders with Russell and Nichole somewhere on the harbour.

This is a load of old crock. I recently went up to Sydney for a concert at the Acer Arena and stayed in a two story apartment of a friend of mine right in the heart of Parramatta. This apartment looked over the river right where the catamaran ferry comes in. Whilst it was busy outside in the street, there was very little noise in and around the whole complex.

The 'matta is just like a smaller scale of the city so it's modern and vibrant.
Just looking around the area is becoming more and more up market.
Dont confuse all areas of Western Sydney the same, it's no Rooty Hill.

 

[cmndstab]

I've known a fair few professional athletes, even represented a couple.

its business.

And business only?

I haven't represented any professional athletes or anything so I'm commenting from a point of ignorance, but I doubt that. Perhaps they were all business in the areas of their life you were representing them in, but I would wager the majority of athletes view their work as much more than simply a business.

 

[amer]

I've known a fair few professional athletes, even represented a couple.

its business.

But you're not an athlete.

 

[Huntercrow]

I've known a fair few professional athletes, even represented a couple.

its business.

Nah, not many shareholders of BHP Billiton run around with the directors names on their backs while they line up for tickets to the AGM.

 

[Huntercrow]

This is a load of old crock. I recently went up to Sydney for a concert at the Acer Arena and stayed in a two story apartment of a friend of mine right in the heart of Parramatta. This apartment looked over the river right where the catamaran ferry comes in. Whilst it was busy outside in the street, there was very little noise in and around the whole complex.

The 'matta is just like a smaller scale of the city so it's modern and vibrant.
Just looking around the area is becoming more and more up market.
Dont confuse all areas of Western Sydney the same, it's no Rooty Hill.

I agree with this, but my point was that the perception that "Western Sydney is no Gold Coast" is irrelevant.
If anything WS is more attractive as a destination due to it's proximity to the harbor and it's royalty.

Parramatta is no Redfern and I wouldn't have a problem living there.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

My evidence is a text I got from someone in the know (and I'm talking someone in the middle of it all) that told me Ablett, Bock and Rischitelli were already signed. I reported it in here if you want to look for it. It was weeks before Bock came out and said he wanted to be a one Club man. I was sceptical at first, then when he came out and made the one club statement, I thought it (the text) was probably incorrect. But of course we all know now that all three had, in fact, been signed by the Suns. Once Bock was announced, I was very confident the other two would follow. My source later confirmed that all three had made an in principle agreement with the Club at the end of last year.

That's not evidence, that's a lucky guess. You got a good tip and that tip became true. It was pure luck. Bloody hell Jenny, as you posted, you were not even sure of the facts yourself. To quote you, you were sceptical at first", you didn't trust your source.

If you had any hard hitting evidence, you would have stood by that and not deviated. It was luck.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

a heads of agreement is not binding, and all evidence is that Bock signed a binding committment.

This is my point, he may have agreed in principal to the GC back in November 2009 but he didn't sign any legal biding documents until 1st of November 2010 after his current AFC contract had expired.

Who know what happened. The AFC may have been working on a deal with Nathan and his management to meet his demands right up and even past that press conference when he said he wanted to be a crows players for life. However at the end of the day the AFC may have fallen short with their offer and Nathan took the GC deal. His contract with the Adelaide Football Club would have ran out on the 31st of October.

As CM said, heads of agreement are not biding, therefore agreement he gave to the GC17 would/could not stand up in a court of law should he signed an extension with the AFC. like it or not, he had options and unlucky for the AFC, he chose the CG17 option.

 

[jenny61_99]

That's not evidence, that's a lucky guess. You got a good tip and that tip became true. It was pure luck. Bloody hell Jenny, as you posted, you were not even sure of the facts yourself. To quote you, you were sceptical at first", you didn't trust your source.

If you had any hard hitting evidence, you would have stood by that and not deviated. It was luck.

I have to say, I was sceptical at first because I didn't believe Bock would leave in a million years. It was that simple - because, like you, I trusted what he said (rather naively it appears).

It wasn't a lucky guess at all. This came from someone who works within the orginisation. I just wasn't sure if they were telling porky pies or not (and I think when I first reported the text in here I said "I'm not sure if this is correct"). It's a source I trust implicitly now.

 

[jenny61_99]

no such thing. he committed or he didn't.

a heads of agreement is not binding, and all evidence is that Bock signed a binding committment.

So are you agreeing with me?

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

So are you agreeing with me?

It's a bit like when your 15 and you ask a girl out and she says yes and then you go and ask someone hotter out and she also says yes, then all of a sudden...its cya latter first date.

Nathan Bock may have said yes but at that time, he had zero commitment or obligation to stay with the GC17.

 

[footy4ever]

In reference to the poor standard of living in Western Sydney for any potential recruit to have to deal with, Is there a stipulation in their contract that they must reside in the western part of Sydney?

I would hardly think that GWS would be compelling their star players to live in the confines of their boundary.

More likely they would be rubbing shoulders with Russell and Nichole somewhere on the harbour.

I Have just recently come from this area of Sydney and was sucked in by the GPS that Parramatta Rd was the quickest route to my destination. It all started out fine, but then, one and a quarter hours to inch 3-4 Kms!!?? What a joke - no joke! (ok it was a Saturday arvo...is there more, or is there less traffic on a Sat than on a week day?) Now I don't know where GWS will be situated exactly, but I expect these traffic conditions exist everywhere in Syd.

My guess is you'd have to live in the general vicinity of the club or players will spend half their lives trying to get to training on time....unless GWS buys a few of helicopters.

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

I have to say, I was sceptical at first because I didn't believe Bock would leave in a million years. It was that simple - because, like you, I trusted what he said (rather naively it appears).

It wasn't a lucky guess at all. This came from someone who works within the orginisation. I just wasn't sure if they were telling porky pies or not (and I think when I first reported the text in here I said "I'm not sure if this is correct"). It's a source I trust implicitly now.

Ok, fair enough. I'm happy to say he may have agreed to sign a heads of agreement but that still doesn't mean he's legally obligated to go there. Ethically, yes, legally no.

I still believe he was courting offers from the AFC and seeing what they could put together. Call me naive but i believe his management would have been silly to close the AFC door.

 

[Vader]

I agree with this, but my point was that the perception that "Western Sydney is no Gold Coast" is irrelevant.
If anything WS is more attractive as a destination due to it's proximity to the harbor and it's royalty.

Parramatta is no Redfern and I wouldn't have a problem living there.

GWS aren't based at Parramatta, they're based at Bankstown - which is only marginally more appealing than Redfern - and Parramatta is about as appealing as a mild case of herpes, which puts things into perspective.

 

[madstar]

GWS aren't based at Parramatta, they're based at Bankstown - which is only marginally more appealing than Redfern - and Parramatta is about as appealing as a mild case of herpes, which puts things into perspective.

Have lived in Parramatta and worked in Bankstown and agree with this. However, haven't been back for awhile (obvious reasons) so don't know if there have been major changes. I definitely didn't get the vibe of Sydney by living that far out. The issues with transport would be very real as far as getting to training and being 'around' the club are concerned.

 

[Ticktak]

GWS aren't based at Parramatta, they're based at Bankstown - which is only marginally more appealing than Redfern - and Parramatta is about as appealing as a mild case of herpes, which puts things into perspective.

They are actually based in Blacktown which is worse than all of the above!

However if you were given the choice to live anywhere in one of these suburbs you would choose Redfern every day of the week.

 

[Huntercrow]

I can't see Sheeds residing in Redfern or Blacktown!

There must be a helicopter pad in Blacktown for commuting.

 

[Allefgib]

did a project for integral energy up in blacktown in 2000. think Elizabeth with a greater population. esp a greater population of 13yo single mums pushing prams and not wearing shoes.

 

[Mego Red]

there is no real evidence that lifestyle played any part whatsoever.

no player offered GC a discount, they all left for big, big cash offers far in excess of their current clubs means.

when players start signing for less, rather than way over the odds, then we can consider the odds.

Lifestyle always plays a part in any career decision. As does salary, and comfort, and a range of things.

You don't know that they didn't offer GC a discount because you don't know what it would have cost another club to lure them away from their current team.

 

[Mego Red]

I've known a fair few professional athletes, even represented a couple.

its business.

C'mon - I know the athletes you represented. And even you would admit that they never made purely business decisions - or, often, even smart business decisions.

 

[The Sloane Ranger]

I moved from Adelaide to Sydney almost a decade ago and even though I live in the Sydney CBD area and ignoring some of the geographic and social challenges connected with the western suburbs, Sydney is a challenging city to live in and it took me about 5 years to adjust to the city.

A positive for Sydney is that there is plenty to do however high cost of living, poor infrastructure and a dog eat dog culture makes Sydney a challenging living environment.

In terms of Sport, Sydney folks are very fickle, they will jump of their teams as quickly as they would jump off, Sydney Kings and Sydney United are great examples of this.

Back to Tex, the money on offer by GWS would be attractive however the opportunity to play with mates in a successful team and to be a one team player for the club you supported as a kid in a true footy environment should be enough of a lure to keep him in Adelaide.

With this day and age of the draft, how many lads these days get the opportunity to fullfill their boyhood dreams and play for the club they supported while growing up

 

[AFC979810]

I've known a fair few professional athletes, even represented a couple.

its business.

Playing AFL is so much more than just a business to the players... Yes, to a point it is about the money and you will get players who leave to chase huge amounts.... But at the same time, you will have many more players who turn back bigger money to be a one club player....

Have a look at the players who lose a grand final and tell me that its a business...

I still love the Chris Grant (i think it was him) story - where a letter from a 6 year old boy offering his pocket money to stay with the Bulldogs kept him at Footscray....

 

[StuPendus]

I can't see Sheeds residing in Redfern or Blacktown!

There must be a helicopter pad in Blacktown for commuting.

He lives in a place called Rhodes Park. He mentioned that on an interview with dumb and dumber.
Just looked it up and it's further from Blacktown than Parra so if it's good enough for the coach everyone else has to get on with it.

 

[Crow-mo]

And business only?

I haven't represented any professional athletes or anything so I'm commenting from a point of ignorance, but I doubt that. Perhaps they were all business in the areas of their life you were representing them in, but I would wager the majority of athletes view their work as much more than simply a business.

no, its not business only. they all prefer to win.

 

[Crow-mo]

Parramatta is about as appealing as a mild case of herpes, which puts things into perspective.

nonsense.

and on that scale, if Parramatta is herpes Canberra is ebola.

 

[Crow-mo]

C'mon - I know the athletes you represented. And even you would admit that they never made purely business decisions - or, often, even smart business decisions.

there is a difference between "would take less cash" and "did take less cash".

a lot of talking about the former, and very little of the latter.