Crows squad V Essendon

[Mad Dog]

Well done to Knights and Douglas for forcing the selctors to pick them with the weight of form.

yep..

these 2 need to get games under the belt.....both will be stars

 

[Crow-mo]

Yeah I know it isnt an exact science and thats the whole point. We made a judgement that Bode was better than any player that was going to be available after pick 13 and IMO it was wrong.

and it was SEVEN YEARS AGO!!!!!

Of course it does, you are talking about the fact that he might have xxx amount of votes in the b&f so he should play, my point is that he will obviously have more votes than some of our younger players because he played more games last year than they did.

but you ignore how many senior players he out polled. he finished 7th!


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A defensive forward? isnt that an oxymoron ? Shouldnt we be focussing on a forwards offensive capabilities rather than the fact that he lays more tackles than other half forwards ?

I do understand what you are saying, but I just find it interesting that we are talking about his defensive skills in an offensive role and using that as justification for his selection.

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not at all. he kicked 30+ goals as well. the team is not kicking goals if the forwards allow the ball to be run out easily. defensive pressure is incredibly important for a forward, and for example is one of the reasons a Damien Cupido is not in the league today.

But you were implying that he should be a certainty each week to play. You have your view and I have mine on that.

no, I didn't. I implied anyone who finishes top 10 in the B&F last season, should start in round 1.
now this hasn't happened, so I will be curious to see what plays out here. particularly as neithers Porps or Bode were selected.

Bode had a good year last year, but his form in the preason was average at best and in 2004 and 2005 only played 11 matches combined for the whole two seasons. That is why I do feel (again my opinion) is that he is a fringe player.

no, too many assumptions here.. he had injury that he carried, wrongly. he's played most games where he's been fully fit, and was one of our most important players last season. so what we have is pre-season, and I think that is entirely random as a guide.

If he remains on the list then it is still relevant again your opinion vs mine. Lets not bring this into a my opinion means more than yours senario.

no, you keep missing the point. an opinion on whether we should have traded for a player SEVEN YEARS ago is NOT valid as an opinion on the player today. it has nothing to do with whether he is still on the list. daft thinking.

I am not saying that Bode is useless, just that IMO I think that his space may be more suited in certain instances to use to bring one of our younger players through.

to be fair, that may well be what is happening.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

I can't see how you can call Bock inconsistent ....

Apart from injury he has been one of the stand outs since Craig took over

Your right that was a tough call my me. However, I think Bock is somewhat overrated on this board. This year will tell us whether he is going to be a better than average tall or will we be stuck with yet another very average, inconcistent kpp.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

no, you keep missing the point. an opinion on whether we should have traded for a player SEVEN YEARS ago is NOT valid as an opinion on the player today. it has nothing to do with whether he is still on the list. daft thinking.

Must be catching.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It's an interesting dilemma that the selectors face - too many mid-fielders and small forwards while tall players are scarcer than rocking horse manure

The 25 that are named were and are absolutely predictable given those not available.

If we go by pre-season form Vince won't be there - back to 24.

So it's 2 out of Bode, Porplyzia , Douglas and Knights to miss.

Bode's pre-season form has been by far the worst so while the selectors may not agree with me he would miss if I was the sole selector. As Nikki said, he's been told that he must be more consistent to get picked every week, and for my money he hasn't.

Douglas and Knights have done everything right and deserve to be selected. Again the selectors may not agree with me, but Porps has had an interrupted pre-season and IMO needs a run or two in the SANFL to find maximum fitness and form.

So for mine the outs would be Vince, Bode and Porplyzia if the team is picked on form.

Was all very soundly thought out and that's how it turned out

I also agree the ONLY reason Porps didn't get a game was because he may be short of a run due to the interupted PS

 

[jenny61_99]

well it was a simple point this time

Actually no, it was logical and not long winded.

 

[Crow-mo]

Actually no, it was logical and not long winded.

just because you understood it... lol

 

[Crow-mo]

Must be catching.

it's ok, I am sure that hug is only just round the corner