Game Day Crows v Hawks 7:10 AO

[Interloperer]

1983 VFL records mean nothing to me, that's irrelevant, couldn't care less. That's not the headline.

Thats a fair attitude.

Unfortunately it makes it even worse here. It changes it from "very rare" to "unprecedented"

 

[Greenfinger]

Smith needed to be delisted last year. A quality club would have traded him when he had value about 6 years ago.

Edwards could be 20 games into his career

 

[MsTopG]

The structural changes for next year in the middle are get draper there and just play him. Get edwards into the group this preseason and maybe get dan curtin in at the start of preseason

The best structural change is a new coach.

 

[cleanhands]

The best structural change is a new coach.

Get used to more of the same next year

 

[PCORF]

I expected Hawthorn in a tight game as they have a good record here vs us, but I expected us to play better. We simply did not show up. TV was off at 3 quarter time.

It was a pretty pathetic effort tonight. We were afraid to take the game on and deserve to cop it from others.

We'll learn or not learn from this.

 

[Crow till I die]

The best structural change is a new coach.

And get van berlo out of there

 

[rocket18]

I expected Hawthorn in a tight game as they have a good record here vs us, but I expected us to play better. We simply did not show up. TV was off at 3 quarter time.

It was a pretty pathetic effort tonight. We were afraid to take the game on and deserve to cop it from others.

We'll learn or not learn from this.

We failed to learn from last week, this week was j6st as bad.

Nicks has shown across 6 years he is extremely slow to learn anything.

The evidence is right in front of us.

 

[Greenfinger]

We failed to learn from last week, this week was j6st as bad.

Nicks has shown across 6 years he is extremely slow to learn anything.

The evidence is right in front of us.

I’m not sure he learns much at all . Murphy was first emergency for last night ffs

 

[MsTopG]

I’m not sure he learns much at all . Murphy was first emergency for last night ffs

Nicks would be playing Sloane if he was still in our squad

 

[1970crow]

It would be disingenuous to suggest that we could have lost it at selection. It is as good a team as we can name excluding Izak Rankine (yes, Butts/Murray and Smith/Dowling are 50/50 calls).

A key issue last week was the match-ups. I felt this prior to the match (Max in attack) and McRae exploited this.

The second problem was our use of the extra man in defence. Collingwood placed their extra (often Moore) behind all the other defenders and he ran forward to intercept when we turned the ball over or won a stoppage. Our spare was often between the stoppage and the other forwards/defenders and he watched the ball sail over his head. I don’t expect Hawthorn to use a plus one but Mitchell is a good tactical coach so who knows.

The success of our coaches will be determined by the match-ups we make. Hawthorn use Impey and Amon to run the ball out of the D50 and can create opportunities for their forwards. They also have three good intercept defenders (Barrass, Battle and Sicily). They will try to play Sicily off his man so we need to use Tex if/when he is free. Hawthorn have dangerous forwards but the one to lock down is old man Gunston and to minimise the influence of the pests (Ginnivan and Watson).

Neither midfield is outstanding. ROB has to at least break even and our outside mids (Cumming, Curtin) have to produce more. Hawthorn had a lot of drive from their wings when they were on top of GWS so it’s time to shine boys.

The final wildcard is Weddle. He can play back, midfield or high half forward so he will ask some questions.

Crows by 8 points.

It’s not this week’s selection that is the problem. It’s that our selection philosophy has limited the selectable field by wasting games on spuds or past it players when opportunity to uncover better players has arisen. And it would be unfair to pin this on Nicks, it predates him by many years. It’s an ingrained club philosophy.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

I expected Hawthorn in a tight game as they have a good record here vs us, but I expected us to play better. We simply did not show up. TV was off at 3 quarter time.

It was a pretty pathetic effort tonight. We were afraid to take the game on and deserve to cop it from others.

We'll learn or not learn from this.

I'll wager that the club will not learn from this.

 

[skam85]

Smith won’t play for us again and shouldn’t have played tonight. Was deplorable with his disposal.

How many times have we said that about our senior players before only to be proven wrong by our brains trust selection committee

 

[Rank]

Nicks would be playing Sloane if he was still in our squad

Hahaha and he'd still give more than Berry.
But yeah Nick's is a C grader and needs to go, Nathan Buckley would be an upgrade.