Crows V Norwood

[Gets!]

One thing I can say, Bonaddio is HUGE!!!

And can take a good grab thats for sure, very agile as well.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

One thing I can say, Bonaddio is HUGE!!!

And can take a good grab thats for sure, very agile as well.

I thought the same when I saw him. Looks a likely type in the future.

Thought it was a good oppoertunity for our 2nd string midfield last night, but no one really starred. Over-used the ball, particularly given it was crowded around stoppages. Too many loose panic disposals, but is only early.

Some quick random thoughts:
- Burton was great in the air.
- Mattner damn quick over the 1st few metres & clean.
- Douglas looks a smooth mover in the small bits I saw.
- Hentschel all class & looks in for a good year & along with Kenny gives us a good forward structure (Perrie struggled to get into the game) ... though we lacked a forward crumber again.

 

[macca23]

I thought the same when I saw him. Looks a likely type in the future.

Thought it was a good oppoertunity for our 2nd string midfield last night, but no one really starred. Over-used the ball, particularly given it was crowded around stoppages. Too many loose panic disposals, but is only early.

Some quick random thoughts:
- Burton was great in the air.
- Mattner damn quick over the 1st few metres & clean.
- Douglas looks a smooth mover in the small bits I saw.
- Hentschel all class & looks in for a good year & along with Kenny gives us a good forward structure (Perrie struggled to get into the game) ... though we lacked a forward crumber again.

Agree with all the above Kane, with the exception of Perrie.

My impression was that he has become the roaming forward in place of Hentschel, with his prime fuction being to open the forward lines up for Hentschel and McGregor.

I'll watch it again next week against Port, but that's how I saw it.

I thought Perrie worked very hard for the sake of the team.

 

[mnmz]

i thought that john hinge played a steller game!!

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

i thought that john hinge played a steller game!!

Is that you Springy?

 

[Stiffy_18]

Is that you Springy?

Quality

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Quality

Refer my questions on the other thread. If you could play all of them, who would you play from the group of younsters next week Stiff? Who deserves a game based on Friday nights performance?

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Agree with all the above Kane, with the exception of Perrie.

My impression was that he has become the roaming forward in place of Hentschel, with his prime fuction being to open the forward lines up for Hentschel and McGregor.

I'll watch it again next week against Port, but that's how I saw it.

I thought Perrie worked very hard for the sake of the team.

Perrie always works hard for the sake of the team. If Welshy is back for round 1, where and how would you use Trent and Kenny?

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

One thing I can say, Bonaddio is HUGE!!!

And can take a good grab thats for sure, very agile as well.

if you compare him to someone who would you compare himt too. Please don't say Ryan Willitts.

 

[Stiffy_18]

if you compare him to someone who would you compare himt too. Please don't say Ryan Willitts.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

One thing I can say, Bonaddio is HUGE!!!

And can take a good grab thats for sure, very agile as well.

Yep - nad a 90% chance of being delisted at years end

Do not get carried away because he's tall - so is my next door neighbour and he's not playing AFL either

 

[Gets!]

if you compare him to someone who would you compare himt too. Please don't say Ryan Willitts.

A gorilla on steroids.

He is huge.

A more footy smart Quinten Lynch.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

A gorilla on steroids.

He is huge.

A more footy smart Quinten Lynch.

Footy smarts and Quentin Lynch should never be used in the same sentense.

Thanks mate.

 

[macca23]

Perrie always works hard for the sake of the team. If Welshy is back for round 1, where and how would you use Trent and Kenny?

It's more how I'd use Welshy really.

Perrie, McGregor and Hentschel to play the same roles as they did Friday night with Welsh being a combo between a leading forward and an opportunist (plus keeping the ball in the area).

Chuck in the resting on-ballers, Knights and Skippy and it's a pretty good forward line.

 

[snakebite01]

It's more how I'd use Welshy really.

Perrie, McGregor and Hentschel to play the same roles as they did Friday night with Welsh being a combo between a leading forward and an opportunist (plus keeping the ball in the area).

Chuck in the resting on-ballers, Knights and Skippy and it's a pretty good forward line.

With Perrie, McGregor and Hentschel looking good to fill the tall forward options, I'd play Welsh this year across the half-forward line as a roaming forward. He plays his best footy in this role, his form in early '02 before he got OP was brilliant. Obviously he filled a void for us last year as a leading FF and did it well kicking 50-odd goals, but now with Hentschel looking ready to step up at FF and Kenny and Perrie finding their niche as forwards, I think unless we can find a major mis-match in our favour by playing Welsh out of the goalsquare, he should be starting further up the field in '06.

McLeod/Johncock and Knights/Ricciuto filling the other two vacancies in the forward line, like you say, completes a pretty good forward line.

 

[*PAF]

if you compare him to someone who would you compare himt too. Please don't say Ryan Willitts.

What's wrong with Willits Springy?
Genuine question. Never seen him play, never seen reports that suggest one way or the other.
If anyone has an honest opinion whichever way, it'll be good to hear it.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

McLeod/Johncock and Knights/Ricciuto filling the other two vacancies in the forward line, like you say, completes a pretty good forward line.

Where do you see Edwards & Goodwin in the rotations?

I would prefer McLeod to be rotating through the midfield off a HBF, as that is where he got back to his best last year. Goody going by the Norwood game looks like may be involved in rotations forward this year, but I would prefer to rotate him also off a HBF. Could be a 3-way with Macca & Reilly.

Roo, Thompson & Knights better suited to forward/midfeild rotations.

Edwards can play anywhere!

Not sure how to best use Stiffy. Best suited to a HBF, but we may need him more as a forward crumber.

 

[macca23]

Where do you see Edwards & Goodwin in the rotations?

I would prefer McLeod to be rotating through the midfield off a HBF, as that is where he got back to his best last year. Goody going by the Norwood game looks like may be involved in rotations forward this year, but I would prefer to rotate him also off a HBF. Could be a 3-way with Macca & Reilly.

Roo, Thompson & Knights better suited to forward/midfeild rotations.

Edwards can play anywhere!

Not sure how to best use Stiffy. Best suited to a HBF, but we may need him more as a forward crumber.

Kane, I think you have summed it up pretty well in respect to the on-ballers and where they might play when off the ball.

Stiffy is a very special footballer because he's damaging at both ends of the ground, and for that reason Craigy will use him as needed on a game by game basis IMO.

With every player fit and available, plus the need for plenty of game time this year for both Knights and Van Berlo, it's going to be damn hard to fit them all in - a good position to be in.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Kane, I think you have summed it up pretty well in respect to the on-ballers and where they might play when off the ball.

Stiffy is a very special footballer because he's damaging at both ends of the ground, and for that reason Craigy will use him as needed on a game by game basis IMO.

With every player fit and available, plus the need for plenty of game time this year for both Knights and Van Berlo, it's going to be damn hard to fit them all in - a good position to be in.

Ain't that the truth.

Seriously, I am a big fan of playing both Johncock in defence. I think it gives us an enourmous advantage and attack from the backline. We have a pair of accountable Wirrpunda type players. Thats is just bloody hard to stop. On the other hand we need to give someone like Van Berlo an extended playing time across HBF. How the hell do you manage that when you have Hart, Torney and Bassett to fill out the rest of the spots in pockets and flanks at the defensive end.

Its going to be a VERY hard juggling act for Craig. He is well aware that Knights and Van Berlo should be given plenty of game time this year and they both have deserved it. At the same time there is a lot of other players that simply have to play because they are the cornerstones of this club.

It will be a very tough job for Craig and I am sure he would rather be in this position that the one where he doesn't have players pushing for selection.

Interesting times ahead.

 

[crowsarethebest]

It's more how I'd use Welshy really.

Perrie, McGregor and Hentschel to play the same roles as they did Friday night with Welsh being a combo between a leading forward and an opportunist (plus keeping the ball in the area).

Chuck in the resting on-ballers, Knights and Skippy and it's a pretty good forward line.

I don't think that will work... It will be way too crowded there. It will be a tough decision who to leave out.

 

[snakebite01]

Where do you see Edwards & Goodwin in the rotations?

I would prefer McLeod to be rotating through the midfield off a HBF, as that is where he got back to his best last year. Goody going by the Norwood game looks like may be involved in rotations forward this year, but I would prefer to rotate him also off a HBF. Could be a 3-way with Macca & Reilly.

Roo, Thompson & Knights better suited to forward/midfeild rotations.

Edwards can play anywhere!

Not sure how to best use Stiffy. Best suited to a HBF, but we may need him more as a forward crumber.

I would play Edwards permanently in the midfield, provided his body holds up. He plays his best footy there, and seeing as he has spent quite a few years playing around the pockets and flanks, he should be able to handle it. Goodwin, I don't think works too well as a forward, would rather rotate him off the HBF, but IMO, his midfield role should be similar to last year's.

I would play Johncock in the backline and McLeod in the forward line. McLeod is still our best genuine crumber, and although he excelled last year in the back half, he really only went there out of necessity when Johncock broke his leg. Johncock is immense off the HBF/BP. I don't think the backline can accomodate both of them when Bassett, Torney and Hart are first choice flankers/pockets and we want to see Van Berlo given more time too. McLeod will no doubt kick 40 goals in a season if he is played as a forward regularly, and seeing as we are missing a crumbing option up there, it is a no-brainer IMO.

Roo is obviously going to play forward a lot more. I'd just swap his and Thompson's roles from the 2005 season. Knights to swap in the forward line and on the ball with McLeod, as he gives us another crumbing option up forward.

To put it simply I'd have our forward set-up as follows.

FF: Perrie Hentschel McLeod (Knights)
HF: Welsh McGregor Ricciuto (Thompson)

with the backline,

FB: Hart Rutten Bassett
HB: Johncock Bock Torney

and the A team midfielders for '06 being Edwards, Goodwin, Thompson, Reilly, Knights, Mattner, Burton.

If we keep everyone fit and healthy it is going to be an f-ing strong line-up.

 

[cro_Magnum]

It's more how I'd use Welshy really.

Perrie, McGregor and Hentschel to play the same roles as they did Friday night with Welsh being a combo between a leading forward and an opportunist (plus keeping the ball in the area).

Chuck in the resting on-ballers, Knights and Skippy and it's a pretty good forward line.

Forward line looks pretty full. Perhaps its just as well Fergus spat the dummy and went home to mum & dad, he wouldn't be getting much of a go this year either barring injury.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Ain't that the truth.

Seriously, I am a big fan of playing both Johncock in defence. I think it gives us an enourmous advantage and attack from the backline. We have a pair of accountable Wirrpunda type players. Thats is just bloody hard to stop. On the other hand we need to give someone like Van Berlo an extended playing time across HBF. How the hell do you manage that when you have Hart, Torney and Bassett to fill out the rest of the spots in pockets and flanks at the defensive end.

Its going to be a VERY hard juggling act for Craig. He is well aware that Knights and Van Berlo should be given plenty of game time this year and they both have deserved it. At the same time there is a lot of other players that simply have to play because they are the cornerstones of this club.

It will be a very tough job for Craig and I am sure he would rather be in this position that the one where he doesn't have players pushing for selection.

Interesting times ahead.

I agree. I lmuch prefer Stiffy's drive and hardness of half back.

Just on VB I think us Crowies may somewhat overrate him. I have seen a few things he has done which have given me reason for optimism for the future. However, if you were an impartial fan, based on sanfl form, you would have to say Knights is miles ahead of him.

You could say the same could be said of my own wagpon pushing of Hinge, which is true. Both Hinge and VB have IMO shown a little something which gives me hope we could have a couple of quality players on our hands. But if we are being honest, an impartial obeserver, based on form, would be asking "why all the fuss"?

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

What's wrong with Willits Springy?
Genuine question. Never seen him play, never seen reports that suggest one way or the other.
If anyone has an honest opinion whichever way, it'll be good to hear it.

Don't let his 3 goals fool you PAF. I once kicked 8 goals in an inter trial and I was rubbish. Mind you, the guy I was standing was stoned. Was Ryans opponent eating Tim Tams?

I have seen him play in a few games and wasn't impressed. He is a lumbering type with very basic skills. I'll give you a better idea after watching a few more games this year.

 

[*PAF]

Don't let his 3 goals fool you PAF. I once kicked 8 goals in an inter trial and I was rubbish. Mind you, the guy I was standing was stoned. Was Ryans opponent eating Tim Tams?
...

Personally I'd prefer if they quoted how many Kms a player covered and what position they were trialed in rather than how many goals they kicked at these trial games.

Reason I asked, as pointed out, is that no-one on our board has yet said too much about Willits, be it positive or negative. Yours was just about the first definitive comment I have heard about him either way.
Wasn't sure if you used it just as a throw away line (in which case as if nothing asked ) or had genuine reasons behind it, hence the question.
.

... I have seen him play in a few games and wasn't impressed. He is a lumbering type with very basic skills. I'll give you a better idea after watching a few more games this year.

• He has to cement a SANFL spot first,
• then hopefully contribute regularly there,
• then hopefully contribute regularly in the SANFL at a high level,
• then hopefully transfer some of that form to the AFL (this is where many promising players get stumped),
• then hopefully contribute regularly in the AFL (a lot fail at this step),
• then hopefully get to be an AFL average type of player (many reach here),
• then hopefully go beyond that (very few do that).

A long long long way to go yet for the big fella, and gee hopefully gets used a lot but that's all that can really be said with young players.