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  1. Wheatbelt

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    From what I can gather, the younger brother would've been born 1973.
     

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  2. BomberThom

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    Yep, I believe he went to Huntingdale primary. With EE wife lived 100 metres from the primary school where may have been involved with little athletics.

    House with wife up street 8 houses from athletics ground at Huntingdale

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  3. miggs

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    also i dont know if its been mentioned but there a lake called tomato lake thats literally a 2 min walk from his address which is pitch black at night and quite a popular jogging/walking spot. Which i use quite often. I wonder if any incidents have occured there since his time in the area. Probably too close for him to risk but its like having a loaded needle infront of a junkie.
     
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    Possibly, but he would be far more comfortable ( initially) committing a crime in a place he is comfortable in, that is why the initial assault was in the suburb he lived in, i reckon it is 100% he knew this girl in 1988 in Huntingdale and i reckon after a lapse in time and it obviously being on her mind she thought it was his brother that had assaulted her.

    Then i guess as he thought about committing murders he obviously thought to commit them a long way from home, but still from a place he knew well and was able to get around comfortably.
     
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    He was involved with LA because of VG. I doubt he would have been involved with LA before having kids.
    January 25
     
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    bullet points only:

    - will be pleading not guilty
    - DNA evidence conclusive
    - defence is limited due to the conclusive DNA but will focus on police incompetence and how the DNA was collected and stored
    - police have been paranoid post Rayney and as such been very thorough
    - 2 year journey in the courts (pessimistic view)
     
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    Julie Cutler will be found to not be a victim of BRE.
     
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    Are we certain about BRE? There are a couple of POIs posting in this thread
     
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    Yeah she seems to do this often, don't think it helps anyone but her, she just doesn't want to have to read it for a day or so.
     
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    I don't know. I will say BRE did not.
     
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    Have you read anything I said. There certainly were mobile phones. It appears one in the video.
    I explained the net when hackers like Assange were using modems to get into defence.
    Australian kids dialing into banks.
    Sheesh
     

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  12. BomberThom

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    No doubt the telcos managed the packet streams down the 'phone' lines
     
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    Based on what?

    Did you do it?
     
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    He was only 20 in 1988. He was still breaking into houses and touching sleeping women. To do what he did to Julie Cutler ie drive behind and in front is a different mindset. It took 7 years from this assault to a rape and release.

    Back to JC. Her father reported a car cutting her off after following her. That seems more likely the actions of an ex. The reports say her car ended up in the sea. The other 2/3 were pick-ups. To overpower her, drive her car, then find a way to return home, suggests a completely different MO, it also suggests more than 1 person.

    And no ;)
     
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    Cutler didnt recognise the driver or the boyfriend.
    Cutler was last seen at Mill st Parmelia hotel police state.
    She did the Stirling hwy run to her home in Freo.

    Kerry Turner? Gone from the Vic Park.

    Dont know what year Birnies arrested. Similar habits.

     
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    Now that's a better one. I don't know.

    I wonder if there is a connection to BRE. Only 1 thing really concerns me is the make of car. Actually the year worries me as well but I can accept it with reservations.

    Police hunted for the vehicle, described by witnesses as a dark blue car, similar to a Datsun 260C, which had spoked wheels, but came up empty-handed.

    It was also mentioned it seemed the driver knew her. Was there more than 1 person in the car?

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    I have concerns over the year of the Turner attack based on the fact the girl at Karakatta survived. I like the idea put forward that he went off tap after his wife left him. This was his trigger. The Karakatta attack fuelled his resolve to not leave a witness.

    I guess we are all amateur psychologists :)
     
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    Well it's completely possible, but obviously purely speculative at this point.

    As many nuts as there are on here and WS, there has also been some terrific work done. Most of that work focuses on what, when and who. The how and why are the ones that require too much guesswork and often aren't even found out after court proceedings.
     
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    Is this correct? I haven't seen any reference to Ancestry, apart from the link on Usry from America who was found through his fathers use of a genealogical website.

    Unless you have a supporting link I am unaware of, I suspect Ancestry might have legal recourse ;)
     
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    I don't think it matters. You find the family, then test the suspect? No doubt we will hear that from the obscenely priced silk defence
    No doubt police have sough legal council to ensure it is all by the book. It is then up to defence to find the flaw in the prosecution procedures.

     
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    Of course it matters. Ancestry were widely condemmed by the Genealogical Community and tightened up their privacy rules. You have slandered them.
     
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    Slandered Ancestry? Need to be a bit clearer who you are talking about.
    Police would have sought council to ensure they could do what they did legally. Family offer DNA, then familial finds the family. Then it is a matter of drilling down via a database of licence holders till a suspect is found and DNA tested.
    Police have DNA tested the entire Conti pub in the video. You don't think they carried familial DNA after testing the whole pub? Not sure about staff?
    I think it was more than LWs behaviour that had investigators of the time that they had their man.
    Maybe police are go to pin the whole thing on the current POI in the hope he spills his gizzards for a deal.
    No doubt the current POI is going to face barrage of questions from the DPP.

     
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    I think its funny you come here high and mighty about slander and defamation , yet when shown that you yourself are guilty of it you assume some pedantic point.
     
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    I think you are just playing games. If you make accusation of slander, then you need describe what you are talking about, not generalise.
    No one is high and might here. Enough playing games. If anyone is being pedantic, its you right now.
     
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    I told you. Ancestry were accused of this in the Usry case. They then tightened their rules on allowing police to use their samples. You accused Ancestry of doing that.

    Who do you think you were talking about? Its why I asked you to provide a link.
     
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    Then delete your post that said they did.
     
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