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Brownlow Medallist
Jun 8, 2008
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16,095
Victoria
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Collingwood
The most annoying part is that we're now just getting "available" or "unavailable" from the club. Langdon may have even been listed as Indefinite which made me think he was about to undergo surgery and it'd be season over? Next minute he's on the track running for the first time.

If they don't want to tell us of the reoccurences, the headliners, etc. just leave them out of the injury report. Like if Adams goes too hard on a fitness test or Elliott re-tears his hammy, just don't give them a segment if you don't want it to become a story.

But if someone is making good progress I'd like to know about it.
 

Maggie5

Moderator
Apr 3, 2010
40,033
39,859
Victoria
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Collingwood
Here I was thinking the club managed the players, apparently they are self-managed? Wouldbetter explain the current state of affairs at least I guess.
Player says I am okay, medical staff ask questions, nothing is apparent on xrays or under normal testing. Player goes out and pushes himself too much, re-injures. Blame medical staff? LOL.

I have twice discharged myself from hospital before time as I thought I could recuperate better at home. I had to sign documentation stating I was leaving without doctors permission. If something had gone wrong, I couldn't blame medical staff for mismanagement. The onus would have been on me.
 

jackcass

Brownlow Medallist
Oct 8, 2007
20,042
17,561
Bendigo
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Collingwood
I bother because they are our depth, Murphy especially was set to make inroads this year, you can't polish this turd, it's destroyed another season and will keep on destroying seasons til they admit they've got the training surface wrong
Haven't most of the injuries to senior 22 players occurred in game on the G? Reid at Marvel, Aish at training?, Stevo at the TAB the exception.
 

Thatsmyname

Plausible deniability
Apr 16, 2019
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Haven't most of the injuries to senior 22 players occurred in game on the G? Reid at Marvel, Aish at training?, Stevo at the TAB the exception.
That would be where you are putting the most extreme forces on your body and if all your training has been done on a piece of carpet over a concrete slab, then that's where and when I'd expect most of them to occur... and yes Stevo pulled a gambly kicking that huge torp
 

jackcass

Brownlow Medallist
Oct 8, 2007
20,042
17,561
Bendigo
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Collingwood
The most annoying part is that we're now just getting "available" or "unavailable" from the club. Langdon may have even been listed as Indefinite which made me think he was about to undergo surgery and it'd be season over? Next minute he's on the track running for the first time.

If they don't want to tell us of the reoccurences, the headliners, etc. just leave them out of the injury report. Like if Adams goes too hard on a fitness test or Elliott re-tears his hammy, just don't give them a segment if you don't want it to become a story.

But if someone is making good progress I'd like to know about it.
Specialists apparently recommended rest to see if that fixes Langdon's problem. I gues we'll find out soon enough if it's worked now he's back training. He'll be in for surgery if it hasn't.
 

Pragmatic Shill

Premiership Player
Jul 2, 2017
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7,159
AFL Club
Collingwood
Just because someone has a degree in a STEM field doesn't mean they're qualified medical specialists, so I'd prefer to trust the word of specialists who aren't even officially connected to the club but are still used to consult

As Jen mentioned, there seems to be a lack of awareness that many of our injuries this year are contact injuries, and the soft tissue injuries we have seen are to the usual suspects.
 

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Aishole

Premiership Player
Oct 18, 2015
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Here I was thinking the club managed the players, apparently they are self-managed? Wouldbetter explain the current state of affairs at least I guess.
You really need it to be spelt out for you hey?
Taylor Adams is a fully grown adult. He is a big boy. The doctors would advise him etc etc, but it comes down to Adams and how he goes about it. Knowing when to pull back training intensity etc.

The Medicos/Physios can write you up a 4 week program, but they aren’t going to hold your hand and watch your every move during it. Im sure there is plenty of stuff Adams has to do at home, stuff of his own volition, because once again he is an ADULT.

If Adams decides hes further ahead in the program, because he feels better then expected and goes a bit harder (against the doctors orders), he can do that. Is it smart? No, but its on Adams. Because, i’ll say it again ... you guessed it... he is an ADULT. The Doctors do not and Can not completely control everything a patient does. They simply advise best practice based off whatever information is presented to them.
 

The Royal Sampler

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Nov 26, 2006
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You really need it to be spelt out for you hey?
Taylor Adams is a fully grown adult. He is a big boy. The doctors would advise him etc etc, but it comes down to Adams and how he goes about it. Knowing when to pull back training intensity etc.

The Medicos/Physios can write you up a 4 week program, but they aren’t going to hold your hand and watch your every move during it. Im sure there is plenty of stuff Adams has to do at home, stuff of his own volition, because once again he is an ADULT.

If Adams decides hes further ahead in the program, because he feels better then expected and goes a bit harder (against the doctors orders), he can do that. Is it smart? No, but its on Adams. Because, i’ll say it again ... you guessed it... he is an ADULT. The Doctors do not and Can not completely control everything a patient does. They simply advise best practice based off whatever information is presented to them.
He understands, he’s just being obstinate.
 

Scodog10

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Jul 25, 2008
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I get the feeling there’ll be no more softly softly after dropping last weeks match with the month ahead we have. I’m tipping we’re going to start seeing a finals type selection policy so basically if you’re best 22 and put your hand up your in.
 

Yidaki

AFL Behavioural Awareness Officer
Jul 24, 2010
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Looking at the unavailable, we really only have 3 that were best 22 last year (Adams, Howe, Langdon). So, we aren't in that much of an injury crisis in my mind. If Sier and Aish don't pull up it will be 5 missing players from the best 22 last year. Not bad, but not good either. We need either Aish or Sier in this week.
 

jackcass

Brownlow Medallist
Oct 8, 2007
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Bendigo
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Collingwood
Looking at the unavailable, we really only have 3 that were best 22 last year (Adams, Howe, Langdon). So, we aren't in that much of an injury crisis in my mind. If Sier and Aish don't pull up it will be 5 missing players from the best 22 last year. Not bad, but not good either. We need either Aish or Sier in this week.
Does that logic work? Weren't we missing a heap of "best 22" players last year which then allowed others to stake claims within that group? Shouldn't others who were unavailable last year (Wells, Reid, Beams) also earn consideration? I appreciate you're focusing on the unavailable group but shouldn't Dunny still merit inclusion given he was clearly best 22 when he did his knee the 1st time?
 

Yidaki

AFL Behavioural Awareness Officer
Jul 24, 2010
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Does that logic work? Weren't we missing a heap of "best 22" players last year which then allowed others to stake claims within that group? Shouldn't others who were unavailable last year (Wells, Reid, Beams) also earn consideration? I appreciate you're focusing on the unavailable group but shouldn't Dunny still merit inclusion given he was clearly best 22 when he did his knee the 1st time?
They can be considered, but I'm basing this year on what happened last year. We made a GF without Dunn, Wells, Reid, and Beams. So technically we can do it again. Hence why they aren't best 22 (this year). Of course Beams is an immediate in, but we are yet to see what he can really bring to our side. And Dunn would be valuable no doubt.
 

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