Analysis Current values for each player on the Carlton List

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100% corect and is why I have prefaced everything I say about Kennedy with IF he wants to stay....

anyway (IMO) under a coaching regime that will no doubt value genuine competitors over skinny runt bludgers and half steppers Kennedy will do just fine.

This is my concern for Fisher ...
 

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too may 'potentials' think they are still playing touch football...

I just don't think Fisher has the mental toughness to make it. He certainly isn't a starting mid .. his forward craft is getting better BUT ... he isn't a stand alone HFF ... so really unsure where he sits moving forward.
 

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I just don't think Fisher has the mental toughness to make it. He certainly isn't a starting mid .. his forward craft is getting better BUT ... he isn't a stand alone HFF ... so really unsure where he sits moving forward.
he is not in my starting 22 - I'll leave it at that ..
 

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On the open market, this year. Despite the low value on many of the players, that's not indicative of whether I would keep them or not

Late 3rd 1. Jack Silvagni - Carlton paid: #53 - Current worth: Late 2nd rounder - Trending up
Late 3rd 2. Paddy Dow - Carlton paid: #3 - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Trending Up
No Value 4. Lochie O'Brien - Carlton paid: #10 - Current worth: 4th round - Nil - Trending up
Mid 2nd 6. Zac Williams - Carlton paid: Expensive free agent - Current worth: 2nd rounder - Trending Up
Mid 3rd 7. Matt Kennedy - Carlton paid: #28 - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up
No Value 8. Lachie Fogarty - Carlton paid: 3rd round* - Current worth: 3rd round - Not trending
Mid 1st & 2nd 9. Patrick Cripps - Carlton paid: #13 - Current worth: Top 10 pick - Trending Down
Two mid 1st rounders 10. Harry McKay - Carlton paid: #10 - Current worth: 2 1st round picks - Trending Up
Mid 4th 11. Mitch McGovern - Carlton paid: 2 2nd round picks- Current worth: Late 2nd round/early 3rd - Trending Down
Late 1st 12. Tom De Koning - Carlton paid: #30 - Current worth: Late 1st/Early 2nd round - Trending Up
Latish 1st 13. Liam Stocker - Carlton paid: #19 - Current worth: Mid 2nd round - Trending Up
Late 2nd 15. Sam Docherty - Carlton paid: #33 - Current worth: Not Applicable - No trend
Mid 3rd 16. Jack Carroll - Carlton paid: #41 - Current worth: 3rd rounder - Trending Up
Latish 1st 17. Brodie Kemp - Carlton paid: #16 - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Trending Up
Two 1st rounders inside top 8 18. Sam Walsh - Carlton paid: #1 - Current worth: Top 5 pick and Top 10 pick - Trending Up
Late 3rd 20. Lachie Plowman - Carlton paid: #28* - Current worth: Early 3rd round - Trending Down
Mid 2nd 21. Jack Martin - Carlton paid: PSD Expensive salary - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Not trending
No Value 22. Caleb Marchbank - Carlton paid: #19* - Current worth: Nil - Trending down
See Harry 23. Jacob Weitering - Carlton paid: #1 - Current worth: 2 top 10 picks - Trending Up
Late 4th 24. Nic Newman - Carlton paid: Future 4th round - Current worth: Late 3rd round - Not trending
Mid 3rd 25. Zac Fisher - Carlton paid: #27 - Current worth: Late 2nd/Early 3rd round - Trending Down
No value 26. Luke Parks - Carlton paid: Rookie pick - Current worth - Nil - Not trending
Mid 4th 27. Marc Pittonet - Carlton paid: #54* - Current worth: 3rd round - Not trending
Late 3rd 28. David Cuningham - Carlton paid #23 - Current worth: 4th rounder - Not trending
Mid 3rd 29. Corey Durdin - Carlton paid #37 - Current worth: 3rd rounder - Trending up
Early 2nd 30. Charlie Curnow - Carlton paid #8 - Current worth: Early 2nd rounder - Trending Up
Late 3rd 31. Tom Williamson - Carlton paid #61 - Current worth: late 3rd rounder - Not trending
No value 32. Jack Newnes - Carlton paid: Delisted free agent - Current worth: Nil - Trending Down
Mid 3rd 34. Sam Philp - Carlton paid: #20 - Current worth - 4th round - Trending Down
No Value 35. Ed Curnow - Carlton paid: Rookie Pick - Current worth: Nil - Trending Down
Early 3rd 36. Josh Honey - Carlton paid: Rookie Pick - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up
No Value 37. Jordan Boyd - Carlton paid: SSP Pick - Current worth: Nil - Not trending
No Value 39. Oscar McDonald - Carlton paid: SSP Pick - Current worth: Nil - Not trending
Early 2nd 42. Adam Saad - Carlton paid: #8 - Current worth: Late 1st/Early 2nd - Trending down
Mid 3rd 43. Will Setterfield - Carlton paid: 2nd and 3rd round - Current worth: Late 3rd - Trending Down
No Value 44. Matt Owies - Carlton paid: Rookie pick - Current worth: 4th rounder - Trending Up
No Value 45. Alex Mirkov - Carlton paid: Midseason Draft - Current worth: Nil - Not trending
No Value 47. Matthew Cottrell - Carlton paid: SSP - Current worth - Nil - Not trending
Mid 1st Adam Cerra - Carlton paid: Pick 6* - Current worth: Top 10 picks - Trending Up
Early 2nd George Hewett - Carlton paid: Free Agent - Current worth: 2nd round - Not trending
Late 3rd Lewis Young - Carlton paid: Petrevski-Seton - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up
Mid 2nd Jesse Motlop - Carlton paid #27 - Current worth: N/A - No trend
No Value Dom Akuei - NGA Cat B rookie - Current worth: N/A - No trend
 

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say walsh wanted geelong and they somehow had the picks - how good would those 2 players have to be to give us the feeling we had adequately replaced him?
 

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I mentioned in another thread recently, that a lot of our players are better than their current values on the open market. Of course the variables include age, contract, injury history, character and position played.

Going through our list, I have applied current values to each player. These are based on what I believe other clubs might be willing to pay and what I'd be happy to pay for these players if I was wanting to bring them into our team, and applying a little bit of precedent from memory.

I know people are going to disagree with my assessment of some players and substitute their own. This is a good thing. Feel free to question my choices, ask me to explain and discuss your own values so we can get a consensus.

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Given how subjective this exercise is I think you've made a decent fist of it. There are some I've valued a little more, some a little less, while a couple we're poles apart.

Would certainly be interesting to go through the same exercise at the end of 2022 with the list under new management, a more balanced game plan and a different philosophy.

1. Jack Silvagni - Carlton paid: #53 - Current worth: Late 2nd rounder - Trending up - :whitecheck: Been a good investment.
2. Paddy Dow - Carlton paid: #3 - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Trending Up - :crossmark: Steak knives at best.
4. Lochie O'Brien - Carlton paid: #10 - Current worth: 4th round - Nil - Trending up - :crossmark: Current value Nil.
6. Zac Williams - Carlton paid: Expensive free agent - Current worth: 2nd rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Spot on.
7. Matt Kennedy - Carlton paid: #28 - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck:
8. Lachie Fogarty - Carlton paid: 3rd round* - Current worth: 3rd round - Not trending - :crossmark: Is he any better than Gibbons whom we dumped???
9. Patrick Cripps - Carlton paid: #13 - Current worth: Top 10 pick - Trending Down - :crossmark: Worth a mid 1st and a mid 2nd....and you'd get it too.
10. Harry McKay - Carlton paid: #10 - Current worth: 2 1st round picks - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Yep
11. Mitch McGovern - Carlton paid: 2 2nd round picks- Current worth: Late 2nd round/early 3rd - Trending Down - :crossmark: Current value nil.
12. Tom De Koning - Carlton paid: #30 - Current worth: Late 1st/Early 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Hard to value, but I reckon you're around the mark.
13. Liam Stocker - Carlton paid: #19 - Current worth: Mid 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Agree that value is likely to increase.
15. Sam Docherty - Carlton paid: #33 - Current worth: Not Applicable - No trend - :whitecheck:
16. Jack Carroll - Carlton paid: #41 - Current worth: 3rd rounder - Trending Up -❓- Hard to tell with the trend.
17. Brodie Kemp - Carlton paid: #16 - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Probs a bit generous, but around the mark.
18. Sam Walsh - Carlton paid: #1 - Current worth: Top 5 pick and Top 10 pick - Trending Up - :whitecheck: No question.
20. Lachie Plowman - Carlton paid: #28* - Current worth: Early 3rd round - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder. Worth more to us than anyone else.
21. Jack Martin - Carlton paid: PSD Expensive salary - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Not trending - :crossmark: 3rd at best. Not a kid now and trending down IMO.
22. Caleb Marchbank - Carlton paid: #19* - Current worth: Nil - Trending down - :whitecheck: Got it in one.
23. Jacob Weitering - Carlton paid: #1 - Current worth: 2 top 10 picks - Trending Up - :crossmark: Being a KPD probably reduces that to one Top 10 Pick.
24. Nic Newman - Carlton paid: Future 4th round - Current worth: Late 3rd round - Not trending - :whitecheck: Around the mark.
25. Zac Fisher - Carlton paid: #27 - Current worth: Late 2nd/Early 3rd round - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder, but definitely agree with the trend.
26. Luke Parks - Carlton paid: Rookie pick - Current worth - Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
27. Marc Pittonet - Carlton paid: #54* - Current worth: 3rd round - Not trending - :crossmark: 4th Rounder sees him out.
28. David Cuningham - Carlton paid #23 - Current worth: 4th rounder - Not trending - :crossmark: Nil. Got more out of Gibbo in 3yrs than Cunners in 6.
29. Corey Durdin - Carlton paid #37 - Current worth: 3rd rounder - Trending up - :whitecheck: Too early to assess.
30. Charlie Curnow - Carlton paid #8 - Current worth: Early 2nd rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Well-tempered & astute assessment.
31. Tom Williamson - Carlton paid #61 - Current worth: late 3rd rounder - Not trending - :crossmark: Doubt he has any real trade value.
32. Jack Newnes - Carlton paid: Delisted free agent - Current worth: Nil - Trending Down - :whitecheck: Yep.
34. Sam Philp - Carlton paid: #20 - Current worth - 4th round - Trending Down - :crossmark: Steak knives is plenty.
35. Ed Curnow - Carlton paid: Rookie Pick - Current worth: Nil - Trending Down - :whitecheck: Correct. Could be picked up as UFA
36. Josh Honey - Carlton paid: Rookie Pick - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :crossmark: 4th Rounder probs sees him out, but agree with the trend.
37. Jordan Boyd - Carlton paid: SSP Pick - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
39. Oscar McDonald - Carlton paid: SSP Pick - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
42. Adam Saad - Carlton paid: #8 - Current worth: Late 1st/Early 2nd - Trending down - :whitecheck: Will be interested to see where we have him in 12 months time.
43. Will Setterfield - Carlton paid: 2nd and 3rd round - Current worth: Late 3rd - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder at best.
44. Matt Owies - Carlton paid: Rookie pick - Current worth: 4th rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Can go with that.
45. Alex Mirkov - Carlton paid: Midseason Draft - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
47. Matthew Cottrell - Carlton paid: SSP - Current worth - Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
Adam Cerra - Carlton paid: Pick 6* - Current worth: Top 10 pick - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Agree with value, doubt the trend as was drafted at Pick 5.
George Hewett - Carlton paid: Free Agent - Current worth: 2nd round - Not trending - :whitecheck: Around the mark.
Lewis Young - Carlton paid: Petrevski-Seton - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Can he keep trending up though???
Jesse Motlop - Carlton paid #27 - Current worth: N/A - No trend - :whitecheck:
Dom Akuei - NGA Cat B rookie - Current worth: N/A - No trend - :whitecheck:
 
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Given how subjective this exercise is I think you've made a decent fist of it. There are some I've valued a little more, some a little less, while a couple we're poles apart.

Would certainly be interesting to go through the same exercise at the end of 2022 with the list under new management, a more balanced game plan and a different philosophy.

1. Jack Silvagni - Carlton paid: #53 - Current worth: Late 2nd rounder - Trending up - :whitecheck: Been a good investment.
2. Paddy Dow - Carlton paid: #3 - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Trending Up - :crossmark: Steak knives at best.
4. Lochie O'Brien - Carlton paid: #10 - Current worth: 4th round - Nil - Trending up - :crossmark: Current value Nil.
6. Zac Williams - Carlton paid: Expensive free agent - Current worth: 2nd rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Spot on.
7. Matt Kennedy - Carlton paid: #28 - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck:
8. Lachie Fogarty - Carlton paid: 3rd round* - Current worth: 3rd round - Not trending - :crossmark: Is he any better than Gibbons whom we dumped???
9. Patrick Cripps - Carlton paid: #13 - Current worth: Top 10 pick - Trending Down - :crossmark: Worth a mid 1st and a mid 2nd....and you'd get it too.
10. Harry McKay - Carlton paid: #10 - Current worth: 2 1st round picks - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Yep
11. Mitch McGovern - Carlton paid: 2 2nd round picks- Current worth: Late 2nd round/early 3rd - Trending Down - :crossmark: Current value nil.
12. Tom De Koning - Carlton paid: #30 - Current worth: Late 1st/Early 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Hard to value, but I reckon you're around the mark.
13. Liam Stocker - Carlton paid: #19 - Current worth: Mid 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Agree that value is likely to increase.
15. Sam Docherty - Carlton paid: #33 - Current worth: Not Applicable - No trend - :whitecheck:
16. Jack Carroll - Carlton paid: #41 - Current worth: 3rd rounder - Trending Up -❓- Hard to tell with the trend.
17. Brodie Kemp - Carlton paid: #16 - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Probs a bit generous, but around the mark.
18. Sam Walsh - Carlton paid: #1 - Current worth: Top 5 pick and Top 10 pick - Trending Up - :whitecheck: No question.
20. Lachie Plowman - Carlton paid: #28* - Current worth: Early 3rd round - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder. Worth more to us than anyone else.
21. Jack Martin - Carlton paid: PSD Expensive salary - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Not trending - :crossmark: 3rd at best. Not a kid now and trending down IMO.
22. Caleb Marchbank - Carlton paid: #19* - Current worth: Nil - Trending down - :whitecheck: Got it in one.
23. Jacob Weitering - Carlton paid: #1 - Current worth: 2 top 10 picks - Trending Up - :crossmark: Being a KPD probably reduces that to one Top 10 Pick.
24. Nic Newman - Carlton paid: Future 4th round - Current worth: Late 3rd round - Not trending - :whitecheck: Around the mark.
25. Zac Fisher - Carlton paid: #27 - Current worth: Late 2nd/Early 3rd round - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder, but definitely agree with the trend.
26. Luke Parks - Carlton paid: Rookie pick - Current worth - Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
27. Marc Pittonet - Carlton paid: #54* - Current worth: 3rd round - Not trending - :crossmark: 4th Rounder sees him out.
28. David Cuningham - Carlton paid #23 - Current worth: 4th rounder - Not trending - :crossmark: Nil. Got more out of Gibbo in 3yrs than Cunners in 6.
29. Corey Durdin - Carlton paid #37 - Current worth: 3rd rounder - Trending up - :whitecheck: Too early to assess.
30. Charlie Curnow - Carlton paid #8 - Current worth: Early 2nd rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Well-tempered & astute assessment.
31. Tom Williamson - Carlton paid #61 - Current worth: late 3rd rounder - Not trending - :crossmark: Doubt he has any real trade value.
32. Jack Newnes - Carlton paid: Delisted free agent - Current worth: Nil - Trending Down - :whitecheck: Yep.
34. Sam Philp - Carlton paid: #20 - Current worth - 4th round - Trending Down - :crossmark: Steak knives is plenty.
35. Ed Curnow - Carlton paid: Rookie Pick - Current worth: Nil - Trending Down - :whitecheck: Correct. Could be picked up as UFA
36. Josh Honey - Carlton paid: Rookie Pick - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :crossmark: 4th Rounder probs sees him out, but agree with the trend.
37. Jordan Boyd - Carlton paid: SSP Pick - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
39. Oscar McDonald - Carlton paid: SSP Pick - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
42. Adam Saad - Carlton paid: #8 - Current worth: Late 1st/Early 2nd - Trending down - :whitecheck: Will be interested to see where we have him in 12 months time.
43. Will Setterfield - Carlton paid: 2nd and 3rd round - Current worth: Late 3rd - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder at best.
44. Matt Owies - Carlton paid: Rookie pick - Current worth: 4th rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Can go with that.
45. Alex Mirkov - Carlton paid: Midseason Draft - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
47. Matthew Cottrell - Carlton paid: SSP - Current worth - Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
Adam Cerra - Carlton paid: Pick 6* - Current worth: Top 10 pick - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Agree with value, doubt the trend as was drafted at Pick 5.
George Hewett - Carlton paid: Free Agent - Current worth: 2nd round - Not trending - :whitecheck: Around the mark.
Lewis Young - Carlton paid: Petrevski-Seton - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Can he keep trending up though???
Jesse Motlop - Carlton paid #27 - Current worth: N/A - No trend - :whitecheck:
Dom Akuei - NGA Cat B rookie - Current worth: N/A - No trend - :whitecheck:

As you said, it's very subjective. When I allocate 3rd rounders, I'm generally thinking of SPS who we traded for a late 3rd rounder and deciding if those players have as much value as him. I don't see Dow having less value than SPS given their 2021 seasons for instance.

On Weiters, I look at Jake Lever getting the Crows two first round picks. I could see someone willing to do that for a genuine KPD like Weiters. It's all a hypothetical exercise and I hope it never comes to pass.

I think our general attitude towards our failures to date also influence our values. Based on our assessments, you probably wouldn't expect this side to make finals next year but we kind of do, so we know the potential and think that other sides probably do too.
 

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Yep.

That’s the only way I would be satisfied with a Sam Walsh trade, if the two top 10 picks turn into bonafide champions. But as you can’t predict such a thing, I would never entertain a Sam Walsh trade.

Apparently Gold Coast really wanted to trade two of their Top 6 picks and after 3 years, Sam has been so incredible that I can’t picture wanting two of those Top 6 players (Lukosius, Rankine, M. king. Rozee, B. King, go further and include Smith) in our 22 over Sam.
 
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Yep.

That’s the only way I would be satisfied with a Sam Walsh trade, if the two top 10 picks turn into bonafide champions. But as you can’t predict such a thing, I would never entertain a Sam Walsh trade.

Apparently Gold Coast really wanted to trade two of their Top 6 picks and after 3 years, Sam has been so incredible that I can’t picture wanting two of those Top 6 players (Lukosius, Rankine, M. king. Rozee, B. King, go further and include Smith) in our 22 over Sam.

Lukosius and Rankine, I concede. One of the Kings and Bailey Smith for Sam Walsh, I think most teams would do the trade. We just love him and he's ours so wouldn't want to lose him. For the good of the team though, that's 2 A graders for the price of 1. It would never be offered so we will never be tempted to sell our soul in that way but with a practical mind, considering players as commodities, you do the deal.
 

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Lukosius and Rankine, I concede. One of the Kings and Bailey Smith for Sam Walsh, I think most teams would do the trade. We just love him and he's ours so wouldn't want to lose him. For the good of the team though, that's 2 A graders for the price of 1. It would never be offered so we will never be tempted to sell our soul in that way but with a practical mind, considering players as commodities, you do the deal.

No.
 

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Plowman for a late 2nd? yep we are balls deep in mid pre-season fog.
late third, early fourth at best but more likely a DFA pickup
 

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I get it. Navy Blue glasses on.

Good luck finding a neutral that would think Walsh is worth King and Smith, let alone thinking you wouldn't take the deal. Again, if you are purely looking to value add to a side with no emotion attached.

I was saying no, because in no world would it happen.
 
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Plowman for a late 2nd? yep we are balls deep in mid pre-season fog.
late third, early fourth at best but more likely a DFA pickup

A late 2nd is a pick in the late 30s. Given his experience and performance in our B&Fs, I'm not sure it's really one to quibble over, at least not a result of being in a fog. Again SPS was worse and we got #52 for him. It's just subjective.
 

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Given how subjective this exercise is I think you've made a decent fist of it. There are some I've valued a little more, some a little less, while a couple we're poles apart.

Would certainly be interesting to go through the same exercise at the end of 2022 with the list under new management, a more balanced game plan and a different philosophy.

1. Jack Silvagni - Carlton paid: #53 - Current worth: Late 2nd rounder - Trending up - :whitecheck: Been a good investment.
2. Paddy Dow - Carlton paid: #3 - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Trending Up - :crossmark: Steak knives at best.
4. Lochie O'Brien - Carlton paid: #10 - Current worth: 4th round - Nil - Trending up - :crossmark: Current value Nil.
6. Zac Williams - Carlton paid: Expensive free agent - Current worth: 2nd rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Spot on.
7. Matt Kennedy - Carlton paid: #28 - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck:
8. Lachie Fogarty - Carlton paid: 3rd round* - Current worth: 3rd round - Not trending - :crossmark: Is he any better than Gibbons whom we dumped???
9. Patrick Cripps - Carlton paid: #13 - Current worth: Top 10 pick - Trending Down - :crossmark: Worth a mid 1st and a mid 2nd....and you'd get it too.
10. Harry McKay - Carlton paid: #10 - Current worth: 2 1st round picks - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Yep
11. Mitch McGovern - Carlton paid: 2 2nd round picks- Current worth: Late 2nd round/early 3rd - Trending Down - :crossmark: Current value nil.
12. Tom De Koning - Carlton paid: #30 - Current worth: Late 1st/Early 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Hard to value, but I reckon you're around the mark.
13. Liam Stocker - Carlton paid: #19 - Current worth: Mid 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Agree that value is likely to increase.
15. Sam Docherty - Carlton paid: #33 - Current worth: Not Applicable - No trend - :whitecheck:
16. Jack Carroll - Carlton paid: #41 - Current worth: 3rd rounder - Trending Up -❓- Hard to tell with the trend.
17. Brodie Kemp - Carlton paid: #16 - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Probs a bit generous, but around the mark.
18. Sam Walsh - Carlton paid: #1 - Current worth: Top 5 pick and Top 10 pick - Trending Up - :whitecheck: No question.
20. Lachie Plowman - Carlton paid: #28* - Current worth: Early 3rd round - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder. Worth more to us than anyone else.
21. Jack Martin - Carlton paid: PSD Expensive salary - Current worth: Late 2nd round - Not trending - :crossmark: 3rd at best. Not a kid now and trending down IMO.
22. Caleb Marchbank - Carlton paid: #19* - Current worth: Nil - Trending down - :whitecheck: Got it in one.
23. Jacob Weitering - Carlton paid: #1 - Current worth: 2 top 10 picks - Trending Up - :crossmark: Being a KPD probably reduces that to one Top 10 Pick.
24. Nic Newman - Carlton paid: Future 4th round - Current worth: Late 3rd round - Not trending - :whitecheck: Around the mark.
25. Zac Fisher - Carlton paid: #27 - Current worth: Late 2nd/Early 3rd round - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder, but definitely agree with the trend.
26. Luke Parks - Carlton paid: Rookie pick - Current worth - Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
27. Marc Pittonet - Carlton paid: #54* - Current worth: 3rd round - Not trending - :crossmark: 4th Rounder sees him out.
28. David Cuningham - Carlton paid #23 - Current worth: 4th rounder - Not trending - :crossmark: Nil. Got more out of Gibbo in 3yrs than Cunners in 6.
29. Corey Durdin - Carlton paid #37 - Current worth: 3rd rounder - Trending up - :whitecheck: Too early to assess.
30. Charlie Curnow - Carlton paid #8 - Current worth: Early 2nd rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Well-tempered & astute assessment.
31. Tom Williamson - Carlton paid #61 - Current worth: late 3rd rounder - Not trending - :crossmark: Doubt he has any real trade value.
32. Jack Newnes - Carlton paid: Delisted free agent - Current worth: Nil - Trending Down - :whitecheck: Yep.
34. Sam Philp - Carlton paid: #20 - Current worth - 4th round - Trending Down - :crossmark: Steak knives is plenty.
35. Ed Curnow - Carlton paid: Rookie Pick - Current worth: Nil - Trending Down - :whitecheck: Correct. Could be picked up as UFA
36. Josh Honey - Carlton paid: Rookie Pick - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :crossmark: 4th Rounder probs sees him out, but agree with the trend.
37. Jordan Boyd - Carlton paid: SSP Pick - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
39. Oscar McDonald - Carlton paid: SSP Pick - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
42. Adam Saad - Carlton paid: #8 - Current worth: Late 1st/Early 2nd - Trending down - :whitecheck: Will be interested to see where we have him in 12 months time.
43. Will Setterfield - Carlton paid: 2nd and 3rd round - Current worth: Late 3rd - Trending Down - :crossmark: 4th Rounder at best.
44. Matt Owies - Carlton paid: Rookie pick - Current worth: 4th rounder - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Can go with that.
45. Alex Mirkov - Carlton paid: Midseason Draft - Current worth: Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
47. Matthew Cottrell - Carlton paid: SSP - Current worth - Nil - Not trending - :whitecheck:
Adam Cerra - Carlton paid: Pick 6* - Current worth: Top 10 pick - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Agree with value, doubt the trend as was drafted at Pick 5.
George Hewett - Carlton paid: Free Agent - Current worth: 2nd round - Not trending - :whitecheck: Around the mark.
Lewis Young - Carlton paid: Petrevski-Seton - Current worth: 3rd round - Trending Up - :whitecheck: Can he keep trending up though???
Jesse Motlop - Carlton paid #27 - Current worth: N/A - No trend - :whitecheck:
Dom Akuei - NGA Cat B rookie - Current worth: N/A - No trend - :whitecheck:
My only nit pick is Weitering. Any club would pay overs for a 10 year AA standard defender. Worth 2 top 10s easily.
 

JustaBattler

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May 31, 2012
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Make finals and all the late seconds 3 rd rounders jump up half a round in value overnight in people's minds and the top players add a pick to their value - or more. That is why playing finals is the most sustainable strategy a list manager can wish for...

bottom teams lose players more easily and get paid less for their players

it is one of the main reasons why equalization moves have failed and need interventions all the time

the best thing that the AFL could do to make the competition more equal is to allow Clubs to trade players irrespective of player agreement.
 

La Dispute

La Dispute
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Player values depreciate basically the moment they are drafted, especially at the top end. Most players aren't worth much, and that includes best 22 players in decent sides. Unless you're a difference maker you're fairly replaceable.

That's why you can glance over a list compromised of a lot of early picks and there's a fair difference in their original draft position. At the elite level you have to continue to prove your worth and it doesn't take long to taper off completely, even only a couple of years after being taken as an early selection.

New draft picks are novel, they are completely unrealised potential and they have the benefit of a nice curated highlights package foreshadowing their capabilities as an AFL listed player.
 

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