Cyril Rioli is still the most overrated player of all time.

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I guess we could just compare career stats between Crypil and Motlop, if we did we would find Motlop gets more kicks and disposals and virtually the same amount of goals per game.
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The fact it lists Motlop at 83kg is enough for me to know this is a forgery.
 

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If I were King of Carlton, and if it made sense where we are at right now to chase a small forward. If.

I'd take Betts in a heartbeat over Rioli. Better work ethic, more reliable, less injured. And demonstrably more effective in the small forward role.

Rightly or wrongly we let Eddie go because he is lacking in ability as an extra mid rotation. Cyril is an inferior small forward who can run through the midfield occasionally. But he's too lazy and unfit to do more than a brief flash, and misses stacks of games on top because in his whole career he's never had AFL level fitness.

Dimwit yourself.
 

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If I were King of Carlton, and if it made sense where we are at right now to chase a small forward. If.

I'd take Betts in a heartbeat over Rioli. Better work ethic, more reliable, less injured. And demonstrably more effective in the small forward role.

Rightly or wrongly we let Eddie go because he is lacking in ability as an extra mid rotation. Cyril is an inferior small forward who can run through the midfield occasionally. But he's too lazy and unfit to do more than a brief flash, and misses stacks of games on top because in his whole career he's never had AFL level fitness.

Dimwit yourself.
Interesting. Betts has a history of going missing in big games and performing when it's all downhill, whereabouts Rioli has a habit of sometimes only turning up for the big games. I guess what you're saying is that Carlton don't look like playing in any big games in the next 5+ years so you'd get better value out of a downhill skier. Makes sense I guess.
 

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Interesting. Betts has a history of going missing in big games and performing when it's all downhill, whereabouts Rioli has a habit of sometimes only turning up for the big games. I guess what you're saying is that Carlton don't look like playing in any big games in the next 5+ years so you'd get better value out of a downhill skier. Makes sense I guess.
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Interesting. Betts has a history of going missing in big games and performing when it's all downhill, whereabouts Rioli has a habit of sometimes only turning up for the big games. I guess what you're saying is that Carlton don't look like playing in any big games in the next 5+ years so you'd get better value out of a downhill skier. Makes sense I guess.
Weak effort.

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Interesting. Betts has a history of going missing in big games and performing when it's all downhill, whereabouts Rioli has a habit of sometimes only turning up for the big games. I guess what you're saying is that Carlton don't look like playing in any big games in the next 5+ years so you'd get better value out of a downhill skier. Makes sense I guess.
Weak effort.

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If I were King of Carlton, and if it made sense where we are at right now to chase a small forward. If.

I'd take Betts in a heartbeat over Rioli. Better work ethic, more reliable, less injured. And demonstrably more effective in the small forward role.

Rightly or wrongly we let Eddie go because he is lacking in ability as an extra mid rotation. Cyril is an inferior small forward who can run through the midfield occasionally. But he's too lazy and unfit to do more than a brief flash, and misses stacks of games on top because in his whole career he's never had AFL level fitness.

Dimwit yourself.
Of course you would. You are Carlton ;)
 

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I'd take Betts in a heartbeat over Rioli. Better work ethic, more reliable, less injured. And demonstrably more effective in the small forward role. Cyril is an inferior small forward who can run through the midfield occasionally. But he's too lazy and unfit to do more than a brief flash, and misses stacks of games on top because in his whole career he's never had AFL level fitness.
AFL players think otherwise
http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/players-top-50#/four
17 Cyril Rioli
21 Chad Wingard
32 Eddie Betts


All-Australian selectors think otherwise:

Rioli .2012, 2015
Betts 2015




Their own coaches think otherwise.


Cyril's B&F placings at Hawthorn:

2008 - 6th
2009 - 2nd
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th [missed 6 games]
2012 - 6th
2013 - ___[missed 10 games]
2014 - ___[missed 13 games]
2015 - 2nd


Eddie's B&F Top 10 placings at Carlton & Adelaide:

2005 -
2006 -
2007 -
2008 -
2009 -
2010 - 9th
2011 - 8th
2012 - 2nd
2013 -
2014 - 8th
2015 - 3rd


Rioli has played in star-studded teams at Hawthorn and has always been amongst the top 5/6 vote-getters.
Even in the years when he tore his hamstrings, he still averaged 5th or 6th most votes

Eddie Betts has mostly played in ordinary teams who've never finished in the Top 4
Less competition for votes from his team-mates, but only twice in 11 seasons has he been amongst the top 5/6 vote-getters.


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I've lost count of the number of players over the years whom people have said they'd take "in a heartbeat over Rioli".

Eddie Betts... Chad Wingard... Shane Edwards… Jack Martin... Steven Motlop... Michael Walters... Haydn Ballantyne... Lewis Jetta... Harley Bennell... Chris Yarran… Travis Varcoe…

The list goes on and on…

Players come and go. Their form fluctuates. They fall out of favour. No longer are they the 'flavour of the month'. But as soon as they hit a purple patch and rack up a few BOGs, or they have a 'career best' year, then we all know which player they get compared to…. Yep. The "overrated" Cyril Rioli.

It's an amazing achievement really that a player can be so overrated and inconsistent (according to the Big Footy brain trust) yet he remains the benchmark of HFFs and is so highly rated by his peers, coaches and the experts who watch most games.
 
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the obviously overrated Rioli there has been one group that don't rate him at all. They would know.

The people that are closest. The umpires.

In total votes in 8 years this so called superstar has racked up a massive 36 votes. Little Over 4 votes a season. :oops:

Well done umps for getting something right :thumbsu:
 
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the obviously overrated Rioli there has been one group that don't rate him at all. They would know.

The people that are closest. The umpires.

In total votes in 8 years this so called superstar has racked up a massive 36 votes. Little Over 4 votes a season. :oops:

Well done umps for getting something right :thumbsu:
So Sam Mitchell shits on pretty much anyone over the last few years? Good to know.
 

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AFL players think otherwise
http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/players-top-50#/four




All-Australian selectors think otherwise:

Rioli .2012, 2015
Betts 2015




Their own coaches think otherwise.


Cyril's B&F placings at Hawthorn:

2008 - 6th
2009 - 2nd
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th [missed 6 games]
2012 - 6th
2013 - ___[missed 10 games]
2014 - ___[missed 13 games]
2015 - 2nd


Eddie's B&F Top 10 placings at Carlton & Adelaide:

2005 -
2006 -
2007 -
2008 -
2009 -
2010 - 9th
2011 - 8th
2012 - 2nd
2013 -
2014 - 8th
2015 - 3rd


Rioli has played in star-studded teams at Hawthorn and has always been amongst the top 5/6 vote-getters.
Even in the years when he tore his hamstrings, he still averaged 5th or 6th most votes

Eddie Betts has mostly played in ordinary teams who've never finished in the Top 4
Less competition for votes from his team-mates, but only twice in 11 seasons has he been amongst the top 5/6 vote-getters.


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I've lost count of the number of players over the years whom people have said they'd take "in a heartbeat over Rioli".

Eddie Betts... Chad Wingard... Shane Edwards… Jack Martin... Steven Motlop... Michael Walters... Haydn Ballantyne... Lewis Jetta... Harley Bennell... Chris Yarran… Travis Varcoe…

The list goes on and on…

Players come and go. Their form fluctuates. They fall out of favour. No longer are they the 'flavour of the month'. But as soon as they hit a purple patch and rack up a few BOGs, or they have a 'career best' year, then we all know which player they get compared to…. Yep. The "overrated" Cyril Rioli.

It's an amazing achievement really that a player can be so overrated and inconsistent (according to the Big Footy brain trust) yet he remains the benchmark of HFFs and is so highly rated by his peers, coaches and the experts who watch most games.
the obviously overrated Rioli there has been one group that don't rate him at all. They would know.

The people that are closest. The umpires.

In total votes in 8 years this so called superstar has racked up a massive 36 votes. Little Over 4 votes a season. :oops:

Well done umps for getting something right :thumbsu:
What more can one say.
 
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the obviously overrated Rioli there has been one group that don't rate him at all. They would know.

The people that are closest. The umpires.

In total votes in 8 years this so called superstar has racked up a massive 36 votes. Little Over 4 votes a season. :oops:

Well done umps for getting something right :thumbsu:
These are the same people that didn't vote for Carey, Matthews, GAblett Snr, Dunstall... but did for Woewoedin, Scott Wynd and Libberatore.

Bwahahahahahaha... you young man are a buffoon !!!
 

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AFL players think otherwise
http://www.afl.com.au/news/features/players-top-50#/four




All-Australian selectors think otherwise:

Rioli .2012, 2015
Betts 2015




Their own coaches think otherwise.


Cyril's B&F placings at Hawthorn:

2008 - 6th
2009 - 2nd
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th [missed 6 games]
2012 - 6th
2013 - ___[missed 10 games]
2014 - ___[missed 13 games]
2015 - 2nd


Eddie's B&F Top 10 placings at Carlton & Adelaide:

2005 -
2006 -
2007 -
2008 -
2009 -
2010 - 9th
2011 - 8th
2012 - 2nd
2013 -
2014 - 8th
2015 - 3rd


Rioli has played in star-studded teams at Hawthorn and has always been amongst the top 5/6 vote-getters.
Even in the years when he tore his hamstrings, he still averaged 5th or 6th most votes

Eddie Betts has mostly played in ordinary teams who've never finished in the Top 4
Less competition for votes from his team-mates, but only twice in 11 seasons has he been amongst the top 5/6 vote-getters.


-----------------------------------------------------

I've lost count of the number of players over the years whom people have said they'd take "in a heartbeat over Rioli".

Eddie Betts... Chad Wingard... Shane Edwards… Jack Martin... Steven Motlop... Michael Walters... Haydn Ballantyne... Lewis Jetta... Harley Bennell... Chris Yarran… Travis Varcoe…

The list goes on and on…

Players come and go. Their form fluctuates. They fall out of favour. No longer are they the 'flavour of the month'. But as soon as they hit a purple patch and rack up a few BOGs, or they have a 'career best' year, then we all know which player they get compared to…. Yep. The "overrated" Cyril Rioli.

It's an amazing achievement really that a player can be so overrated and inconsistent (according to the Big Footy brain trust) yet he remains the benchmark of HFFs and is so highly rated by his peers, coaches and the experts who watch most games.
Yes.

That is what is being said: he is over-rated.
 
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These are the same people that didn't vote for Carey, Matthews, GAblett Snr, Dunstall... but did for Woewoedin, Scott Wynd and Libberatore.

Bwahahahahahaha... you young man are a buffoon !!!
Umpires were dumb as dog shit back then, today they are educated grammar nerds who know there footy.

So what you saying is you compare Thyril to Carey, Matthews, Greatest footballer ever Snr & Dunstall.:oops:
 
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Yes.

That is what is being said: he is over-rated.
Yes. That is what is being said by muppets who hardly ever see him play.
These numbskulls compare his number of possessions to midfielders. :drunk::thumbsu::thumbsu:

Meanwhile, the people who actually know what they're talking about - his teammates, his coaches, rival coaches, rival players, ex-players who work in the media and go to 50 games a year - these people all rate him as a dangerous force with or without the ball and one of the better players in the game.

Hopefully this year, Cyril can earn his 3rd All-Australian award, his 5th premiership medal, a 2nd Norm Smith and become even more overrated.
 
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