Rumour D Mac

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Sometimes everything aligns for a player and they produce an outstanding season when they otherwise shouldn't have. The best players can back it up and Mackay has resoundingly proven he cannot.
2009 was a bit of an anomaly for a lot of our players. As a team in general we played out of our skin that year. Chris Knights was another who looked like he was going to tear the comp to shreds after 2009, but at least he has injury to blame.
 

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Very similar career trajectory to van Berlo. Impressive start, lots of the ball.

Then became training track champion. Leader of the pack in all preseason running activities. Pride self on preparation rather than onfield performance (club enables this culture by glorifying training track stars).

Limited attention paid to improving own skills. More focus on the influence they can have on the whole playing group as mentor and becoming a leader at meetings, at training.

Individual game decays.
Nah.. VB was always a much better player than DMac. VB finished in the top-10 in the Club Champion voting in 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011 (finished 2nd), and 2012. DMac, as widely noted, has never had a top-10 finish.

People's memories of VB are soured by the last couple of seasons, but overall he had a very good career with the Crows. DMac has always been a cameo specialist, playing 2-3 very good games per season, and 5-6 sub-par games per season. Even his best games are rarely good enough to make him one of the best players on the ground.
 
Van Berlo always looked like he'd be a good solid footballer coupled with elite fitness. Mackay looked like he would actually be a game breaking player in 2009. Unfortunately that never eventuated.
 
Nah.. VB was always a much better player than DMac. VB finished in the top-10 in the Club Champion voting in 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011 (finished 2nd), and 2012. DMac, as widely noted, has never had a top-10 finish.

People's memories of VB are soured by the last couple of seasons, but overall he had a very good career with the Crows. DMac has always been a cameo specialist, playing 2-3 very good games per season, and 5-6 sub-par games per season. Even his best games are rarely good enough to make him one of the best players on the ground.

This is completely spot on. people Quickly forget that Vb was a v strong contributor for 6-7 year time period due to his rapid deterioration.

McKay Almost having a career season thus far mind you!
 
But 10th is good though, right?
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Firstly, he has never been good enough to finish 10th or better, and yes 10th is better than 11th. Mind you, we don’t even know if MacKay has ever finished 11th. I would have every player who has ever finished 10th in the crows best and fairest in the team ahead of MacKay.

He has been a very durable player and yet still doesn’t make top ten at the club. Every player with over 100 games has made a top 10 best and fairest finish apart from Rhett Biglands who was usually 2nd ruck, and old mate David MacKay.

That’s over 50 players... why? Because he doesn’t offer much more than a 20 game kid learning the AFL. If Van Berlo was vanilla, MacKay is as bland as steamed plain rice.
 
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inb4 the club hears this rumour and panics and offers him another 4 years on more money.




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I'm feeling hungry. D Mac's thread makes me think of B Mac!

I think we underestimate D Mac's influence in being the team's barometer of "giving it your all". He has deficiencies no doubt, but he always seems to get up and play on with however many knocks and bangs he gets in each game!
 
I'm feeling hungry. D Mac's thread makes me think of B Mac!

I think we underestimate D Mac's influence in being the team's barometer of "giving it your all". He has deficiencies no doubt, but he always seems to get up and play on with however many knocks and bangs he gets in each game!
It's like watching that little kid running around with his big Brothers friends trying to act tough but getting bounced around like a pinball. Only you realise that's no little kid, he's just a puny human being.
 

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I'm feeling hungry. D Mac's thread makes me think of B Mac!

I think we underestimate D Mac's influence in being the team's barometer of "giving it your all". He has deficiencies no doubt, but he always seems to get up and play on with however many knocks and bangs he gets in each game!

I'm amazed we've won more than 2 games if he is our "barometer".

Sure he's having a career year, but his career year is still just incredibly mediocre (though those two words really sums up Mackays career).
 
Nah.. VB was always a much better player than DMac. VB finished in the top-10 in the Club Champion voting in 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011 (finished 2nd), and 2012. DMac, as widely noted, has never had a top-10 finish.

People's memories of VB are soured by the last couple of seasons, but overall he had a very good career with the Crows. DMac has always been a cameo specialist, playing 2-3 very good games per season, and 5-6 sub-par games per season. Even his best games are rarely good enough to make him one of the best players on the ground.

Yep, VB was bloody good for most of his career, was one of my favourites. Dropped off pretty quickly though, barely deserved his spot the season prior to his achilles awareness.
 
I was watching the movie Watchmen tonight, original story by Alan Moore, one of the gods of English Literature. Between he and Neil Gaiman the rest can go home.

I saw something very disturbing in the closing credits.

On this basis, he can no longer be in the team

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I was watching the movie Watchmen tonight, original story by Alan Moore, one of the gods of English Literature. Between he and Neil Gaiman the rest can go home.

I saw something very disturbing in the closing credits.

On this basis, he can no longer be in the team

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This explains everything
 
The number of times I saw MacKay guarding areas of irrelevant grass today did my head in.

And don’t even get me started on that goal square fumble failure.

Yes, but he is a massive asset in regards to the non statistical role he performs for the AFC. :drunk:
 
Very similar career trajectory to van Berlo. Impressive start, lots of the ball.

Then became training track champion. Leader of the pack in all preseason running activities. Pride self on preparation rather than onfield performance (club enables this culture by glorifying training track stars).

Limited attention paid to improving own skills. More focus on the influence they can have on the whole playing group as mentor and becoming a leader at meetings, at training.

Individual game decays.


I missed yesterday’s game. But I saw the highlowlights reel on the news, and that incident where Mackay could not get the ball across the line for a behind, should have been the one that stamped his card forever.

It’s been real, David. But enough is enough.

If he plays next week after that, we are deluded.

I don’t care how slow it makes us on the outside, I don’t want players who are that fundamentally flawed.
Enough, Crows.
 
It's like watching that little kid running around with his big Brothers friends trying to act tough but getting bounced around like a pinball. Only you realise that's no little kid, he's just a puny human being.

That’s not why he’s no good though. He’s actually quite courageous for someone of his slight build.

His problem is his skills are just ok, and his footy brain is a couple of rungs below ok.

When you’re that size, those two things need to be on point. And with him, they aren’t, they never have been and they never will be.
 

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