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I can see of clubs that dont have a junior base are reliant on senior recruits especially country leagues that carry high points giving it a nudge.
100% TT, if have no school affiliation or junior pathway, even recruits of average ability could easily be worth 2,3 or even 4 points.
10 new senior players in any given year not out of the question, at an average of 3 gives 30 points. Leaving 18points for remaining 12.
I think some clubs that are currently thinking they are flying with recruits might find it tough to squeeze them all in.
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While i agree with the points and salary cap for leagues that pay for the life of me can not get my head around why the lower grades of the ammos (all the D grades) should be encumbered with this as its hard enough to attract good players and enough players to these lower levels then only to be told you are above the points and can not play them to quote Daniel hartford! I call bull dust
Yeah it's certainly interesting when a lot of clubs at this level of the VAFA don't have junior affiliates and are reliant on country or interstate players knocking on the door.
Considering there are no player payments it'd be quite frustrating for a kid to miss out because he played 2's at South Bendigo and that makes him a 3 point player.
It's as if the VAFA wants to drive players away rather than standing strong. In my simple mind, in an Amateur competition, why is there a requirement for points cap. Especially this comp where the width and breadth of types of club's is so varied, a blanket model clearly will not work. It is laziness, ineptitude and more importantly I think a complete disregard for the lower divisions by headquarters that drives this. Either it is Amateur or it is not.
Considering it was in place last year (although it was 50 points, not 48 like this year), did any teams struggle with it?
I know it was the least of our problems at Richmond Central last year but I would've thought that at least a few clubs had issues with it.
I know it was the least of our problems at Richmond Central last year but I would've thought that at least a few clubs had issues with it.
From what I am led to believe the points have been pretty loosely applied previously, and the fear is that a much stricter application of the rules this year.
The difference between a 2 and 3 points meter mightn't sound much, but in reality 50% loading.
The difference between a 2 and 3 points meter mightn't sound much, but in reality 50% loading.
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The vafa has only ever payed lip service to the lower divisions, their bread and butter is with all the premier grade teams which consists mostly of old boy teams . The lower grades and suburban teams are there to make up number but always seems like an inconvenience and a way to fine them for every little misdemeanour and raise cash
Wouldn't be so sure. As it stands a reserves or 3rd XVIII footballer from A B or C wanting to play in the D's is a 3 pointer.Won't be an issue!
Everyone from last year drops a point!
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The point of the VAFA is for the love of the game. Will be laughable when D3 or 4 sides are turning away players from Premier grades as they are not value for points.
Not so Redda
Has to do with Senior games so is a 2 point player dropping to one the following year
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Has to do with Senior games so is a 2 point player dropping to one the following year
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Maybe you are looking at a different calculation sheet to the one I have seen
Have you played more reserves than senior games - Yes 2 points
Are you transferring from a Premier Comp to a non Premier Comp (A,B and C are regarded as Premier) - Yes 1 point.
My understanding and I stand to be corrected is that senior games have no bearing on the 2nd question. If you played 1's 2's or 3's (as opposed to clubbies) at an A,B or C club and transferring to a D club you will be a 3 upon transfer. You do drop a point on a yearly basis. But only into 2nd year.
Have you played more reserves than senior games - Yes 2 points
Are you transferring from a Premier Comp to a non Premier Comp (A,B and C are regarded as Premier) - Yes 1 point.
My understanding and I stand to be corrected is that senior games have no bearing on the 2nd question. If you played 1's 2's or 3's (as opposed to clubbies) at an A,B or C club and transferring to a D club you will be a 3 upon transfer. You do drop a point on a yearly basis. But only into 2nd year.
My understanding is that if the VAFA had it's way they wouldn't have points for D clubs. It is AFL Vic that is forcing the issue
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I understand the points system as it has been brought in to stop the big suburban clubs in the wrfl, edfl, efl, and nfl just out bidding everybody else on good players and domination their respective leagues. But for the life of me i cannot see how this is relevant to the lower grades of the ammos
as most recruiting is done by word of mouth and mates of mate coming to play at a club if they can attract players of a high standard to play for nothing then good on them. I also know this has been brought in by AFL Vic and signed of by all the leagues in the state but surely there must be some wriggle room some where to ensure that the D gardes have enough number to field two sides with out having to turn players away
as most recruiting is done by word of mouth and mates of mate coming to play at a club if they can attract players of a high standard to play for nothing then good on them. I also know this has been brought in by AFL Vic and signed of by all the leagues in the state but surely there must be some wriggle room some where to ensure that the D gardes have enough number to field two sides with out having to turn players away
Wouldn't an easy fix be to have the cap at 48 points for A, B, C grades (as they are considered premium comp) and something a fair bit higher for D Grade clubs (& or those not with Juniors/School sides) that get whacked points for players coming from a premium comp (Ammos/Country/Interstate)?
Agree it gets messy. Could reassess those who had previously been given the bonus point for moving from a premier to community club and remove that extra point.
Other option would be to that I think some country leagues even have different points for teams within the same league (more points for teams who didn't make finals/win many games the year before), a team jumping up to 'Premier' could then get some extra points.
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Clubs without Juniors can apply for a 5 point extension above the cap.
It's in the points compensation section. We had applied and received it last year so we had a 55 point cap.
Any practice matches over the weekend or any coming up?
Richmond Central play Reservoir on the 18th and Ashwood on the 25th.
Richmond Central play Reservoir on the 18th and Ashwood on the 25th.
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