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Maybe some of them ARE umpires... or may at least be responsible for trying to keep them employed on saturdays.
The Touring Pro
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The Pro was on the cobra website and found this gem.
The boys were incredibly unlucky. If you consider the unavailability of important players, the many injuries suffered during the match, the fact that West Brunswick were playing on the counter attack for the entire first half AND the fact that a three pronged tall (Fradkin, Conn and Daley) attack is incredibly unsuited in the dismal conditions endured on Saturday... the result was extremely encouraging.
The margin of 31 points at half time was very unflattering.
I thought the opposition played second to the ball tactics, with many of their midfielders and flankers playing around the periphery of the contests and backing the one or two very talented West Brunswick blokes to poach the footy off us and then dish the hands. Perhaps such tactics were exclusive to the conditions, and not a consistent feature of their gameplan, BUT, if they try this dishonest brand of football which is heavily reliant on the one or two talented footballers next time they'll be in a bit of trouble. Regardless of the implementation of that particular tactic, I think that we're a massive chance at home next time.
According to this I believe the Cobras will win the flag. West Brunswick's dishonest play will get them no where (currently 6-0).
And this one also.
Can't disagree. Seemed like we really fell away across half forward due to our reliance on the three prong set up. Conditions just didn't suit. When they weren't skirting the perimeter they punsihed us on the counter-attack. With a full side in for the home leg I think we will be far more competitive.
The boys were incredibly unlucky. If you consider the unavailability of important players, the many injuries suffered during the match, the fact that West Brunswick were playing on the counter attack for the entire first half AND the fact that a three pronged tall (Fradkin, Conn and Daley) attack is incredibly unsuited in the dismal conditions endured on Saturday... the result was extremely encouraging.
The margin of 31 points at half time was very unflattering.
I thought the opposition played second to the ball tactics, with many of their midfielders and flankers playing around the periphery of the contests and backing the one or two very talented West Brunswick blokes to poach the footy off us and then dish the hands. Perhaps such tactics were exclusive to the conditions, and not a consistent feature of their gameplan, BUT, if they try this dishonest brand of football which is heavily reliant on the one or two talented footballers next time they'll be in a bit of trouble. Regardless of the implementation of that particular tactic, I think that we're a massive chance at home next time.
According to this I believe the Cobras will win the flag. West Brunswick's dishonest play will get them no where (currently 6-0).
And this one also.
Can't disagree. Seemed like we really fell away across half forward due to our reliance on the three prong set up. Conditions just didn't suit. When they weren't skirting the perimeter they punsihed us on the counter-attack. With a full side in for the home leg I think we will be far more competitive.
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Have you thought of going into politics waz?Right... So I put this to the committee at Box Hill North.... You design and purchase a trophy named after whoever is deemed worthy from your establishment. And we do the same. Yours can be presented to the winner of the seniors, and ours for the reserves.
Or... We just have one for the seniors and leave the darn reserves out of it
Umpires not a worry for your boys Mark. You are killing them at the moment.
Not according to certain clubs websites apparently. Very lucky to get away with the win on the weekend. I heard they were pretty lucky in the early game as well.
Maybe Mark could shed some light on where he thought they won it
King_Cobra
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The Pro was on the cobra website and found this gem.
The boys were incredibly unlucky. If you consider the unavailability of important players, the many injuries suffered during the match, the fact that West Brunswick were playing on the counter attack for the entire first half AND the fact that a three pronged tall (Fradkin, Conn and Daley) attack is incredibly unsuited in the dismal conditions endured on Saturday... the result was extremely encouraging.
The margin of 31 points at half time was very unflattering.
I thought the opposition played second to the ball tactics, with many of their midfielders and flankers playing around the periphery of the contests and backing the one or two very talented West Brunswick blokes to poach the footy off us and then dish the hands. Perhaps such tactics were exclusive to the conditions, and not a consistent feature of their gameplan, BUT, if they try this dishonest brand of football which is heavily reliant on the one or two talented footballers next time they'll be in a bit of trouble. Regardless of the implementation of that particular tactic, I think that we're a massive chance at home next time.
According to this I believe the Cobras will win the flag. West Brunswick's dishonest play will get them no where (currently 6-0).
And this one also.
Can't disagree. Seemed like we really fell away across half forward due to our reliance on the three prong set up. Conditions just didn't suit. When they weren't skirting the perimeter they punsihed us on the counter-attack. With a full side in for the home leg I think we will be far more competitive.
Why on earth do you think it is nessasary to post things that are written on a teams own forum and intended for the players and supporters of that team on big footy. Besides that if you had paid spent some time viewing all the other dripple thats on the forum u would have realised that both those posts were from 1st time posters, which, for the 1st poster anyway, were unable to find the identy of at training last night.
To me they seam to be written very much a like, have simular display pics which lends me to beleive they may have been written by the same person and seeing you happened to post them on here very shortly after the second post i beleive they may have been written to cause a bit of sh*t and may have infact been written by yourself as a bit of a sh*t stirr.
The Touring Pro
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It (post on cobra website) obviously has been written by someone from the cobras. Who else would know the teams ins/outs, foward line line structures????????
I just picked it up and thought that it was an interesting thing to say about a game where the margin was 70 points.
Gents, Scribe and I taped round 7's edition of the Ammo Show yesterday and launched straight into a D4 segment. Have a look on Friday and feel free to leave any feed back. We'll get around to D4 again in a few weeks so for now enjoy!
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If it's on a publicly accessible website then it is "published" and for the consumption of the general public... including those who post on Big Footy.
There seems to be a little confusion about who you think is responsible. You have suggested you know the author of the second post, but not the first, and then you think they are from the same person, and then you suggest it's a set-up from The Touring Pro. Getting a little bit flustered there, King?
Maybe the Cobras should adopt the police state policies that Albert Park and Eley "Red Flag" Park have enforced. You don't see renegades from those clubs ranting on Big Footy!
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where do u get ur info from pietro you muppet? eley park have not enforced such a rule!
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The Pro was on the cobra website and found this gem.
The boys were incredibly unlucky. If you consider the unavailability of important players, the many injuries suffered during the match, the fact that West Brunswick were playing on the counter attack for the entire first half AND the fact that a three pronged tall (Fradkin, Conn and Daley) attack is incredibly unsuited in the dismal conditions endured on Saturday... the result was extremely encouraging.
The margin of 31 points at half time was very unflattering.
I thought the opposition played second to the ball tactics, with many of their midfielders and flankers playing around the periphery of the contests and backing the one or two very talented West Brunswick blokes to poach the footy off us and then dish the hands. Perhaps such tactics were exclusive to the conditions, and not a consistent feature of their gameplan, BUT, if they try this dishonest brand of football which is heavily reliant on the one or two talented footballers next time they'll be in a bit of trouble. Regardless of the implementation of that particular tactic, I think that we're a massive chance at home next time.
According to this I believe the Cobras will win the flag. West Brunswick's dishonest play will get them no where (currently 6-0).
And this one also.
Can't disagree. Seemed like we really fell away across half forward due to our reliance on the three prong set up. Conditions just didn't suit. When they weren't skirting the perimeter they punsihed us on the counter-attack. With a full side in for the home leg I think we will be far more competitive.
Every club should talk themselves up. The club has worked incredibly hard to rebuild and the last thing we would want would be for blokes to drop their heads after a loss to an admittedly excellent team. The posters are obviously trying to help the team regroup and get the confidence up again for this week's game. You've taken those comments out of context and you've made your own conclusions regarding the intent.
YOU'VE taken MY comments out of context and YOU'VE made your own conclusions regarding the intent.
And I disagree with your comment that every club should talk themselves up. Read what crazy has posted this morning. There are plenty of examples of that happening elsewhere - eg St Mary's last year?
King_Cobra
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Where did I state I know who the second poster was.
I have know idea who either of the poster are, seeing the second post was posted after training i couldnt exactly ask anyone at the club about a post that happened afterwards could I. The reason i said it was the pro was because he posted it on here within minutes of it hitting the our forum.
Bulleen seemed to have had many more issues with Bigfooty 'phantom' posters, and generally issues with web blogging than any other club. Perhaps it wasn't the best idea to have a forum on their own site with anonymous posters... seems to have just added unneeded frustration.
Its a shame that there are people (possibly) within the club - showing it no respect.
Its a shame that there are people (possibly) within the club - showing it no respect.
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KC you state that you know the identity of the 2nd poster, so how could the touring pro write both articles on your web site. If you do have a club forum then obviously the editor of the site needs to monitor what is siad and what isn't. I know that 1 article that was written late on Sat night was taken off by Sun morning in relation to the reserves. The same should occur for these articles which in kind is having a go at an opposition club.
By having a forum you are waiting for trouble, i know it is meant for club users but remember that others will get on a cause trouble. You guys have worked too hard in the off season for a few unknowns to get on and cause trouble.[/quote]
This is the exact reason why people shouldn't cut and paste whats been said into a differant forum, give someone a chance to read it and delete it before going and putting it somewhere else.
By having a forum you are waiting for trouble, i know it is meant for club users but remember that others will get on a cause trouble. You guys have worked too hard in the off season for a few unknowns to get on and cause trouble.[/quote]
This is the exact reason why people shouldn't cut and paste whats been said into a differant forum, give someone a chance to read it and delete it before going and putting it somewhere else.
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I know Jason Broadbear, and I know he wouldn't take a tongue-in-cheek dig like that personally!
Where were you when the forum was calling for input from the Sharks?
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Well the intent seemed to be to have a bit of a poke at the comments on the Cobras forum - the smiley faces and conclusion that "Bulleen will win the flag" would seem to support my view. I'm happy to stand corrected.
The intent and context of that particular thread was that there was some feeling that we went in thinking West Brunswick were unbeatable - our confidence was down even before the game. The posts were intended to get the confidence back up and on track. They were in no-way meant to be a put down of West Brunswick - for the record I thought they played a clever and disciplined brand of footy and will be hard to beat. Some people might call that dishonest - personnally I reckon it's smart footy but everyone will interpret a game plan differently.
As for the talking yourself up - I'll have to disagree. Comments like " we will be more competitive next time" and "we were unlucky with injury" are far different from saying "We will smash them by 10 goals and West Brunswick are cr@p". The former for mine is an attempt to rally those around the club while the latter would be arrogant. I fully agree that the arrogant stuff is stupid but the stuff posted on the Cobras forum (well to me anyway) read simply as an attempt to rally the troops so to speak.
BTW I'm now confused who I'm meant to be replying to: The Touring Pro or Peter Pan. Ah, bugger it this fandangled computer stuff is too much for an old(er) bloke like me
As with most things in life, posting about YOUR club should try and balance the urge to spruik the positives, with the understanding that people on a public forum will do everything in their power to misrepresent whatever is being written. See note in the Herald Sun this morning about bloggers & blogging in general.
A clubs website is still an open forum, and statements made on those forums can still be obtained an used in other public forums.
The facts:
Bulleen had some guys missing on the weekend, West Brunswick probably did too.
Maybe the wet weather didn't suit us - possibly didn't suit West either.
Play the game again & we'd hope to give a better account of ourselves, maybe there was some stuff that West Brunswick thought they could do better as well.
I made the comment last week that win or push West Brunswick to a goal or two & the competition would need to give us some respect. Simple outcome; we didn't & now Bulleen needs to string together some more wins, hopefully starting this week against Mt Lilydale, before anyone would take us seriously as a side in finals contention.
The ony thing that I can say is that the Bulleen club is still working very hard to improve & last weekend was just one game in a long season. The outcome may not have gone our way, but there's still a lot of work to be done.
Go Cobras.
A clubs website is still an open forum, and statements made on those forums can still be obtained an used in other public forums.
The facts:
Bulleen had some guys missing on the weekend, West Brunswick probably did too.
Maybe the wet weather didn't suit us - possibly didn't suit West either.
Play the game again & we'd hope to give a better account of ourselves, maybe there was some stuff that West Brunswick thought they could do better as well.
I made the comment last week that win or push West Brunswick to a goal or two & the competition would need to give us some respect. Simple outcome; we didn't & now Bulleen needs to string together some more wins, hopefully starting this week against Mt Lilydale, before anyone would take us seriously as a side in finals contention.
The ony thing that I can say is that the Bulleen club is still working very hard to improve & last weekend was just one game in a long season. The outcome may not have gone our way, but there's still a lot of work to be done.
Go Cobras.
Why not read it and delete it before you let it be slapped on your website for public consumption?
If I were a more sinister character I would make a point of posting on the Cobra's website more frequently after this reaction!
As with most things in life, posting about YOUR club should try and balance the urge to spruik the positives, with the understanding that people on a public forum will do everything in their power to misrepresent whatever is being written. See note in the Herald Sun this morning about bloggers & blogging in general.
A clubs website is still an open forum, and statements made on those forums can still be obtained an used in other public forums.
The facts:
Bulleen had some guys missing on the weekend, West Brunswick probably did too.
Maybe the wet weather didn't suit us - possibly didn't suit West either.
Play the game again & we'd hope to give a better account of ourselves, maybe there was some stuff that West Brunswick thought they could do better as well.
I made the comment last week that win or push West Brunswick to a goal or two & the competition would need to give us some respect. Simple outcome; we didn't & now Bulleen needs to string together some more wins, hopefully starting this week against Mt Lilydale, before anyone would take us seriously as a side in finals contention.
The ony thing that I can say is that the Bulleen club is still working very hard to improve & last weekend was just one game in a long season. The outcome may not have gone our way, but there's still a lot of work to be done.
Go Cobras.
Good summary. Now, I think we are due for some more talk about the umpires? Mark Harvey, would you like to let us know what you think about the officiators in white?
Ozza - this was a positive statement that was used on here for 'mischievous' purposes. This wasn't another case like last year where we had people being negative.
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