D4 Section Ammos pt 1 (2005-2007)

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If St Marys are anywhere near as good as expected they will easily roll BHN, after playing both Eltham and BHN, Eltham were awesome and got rolled bt STMs.

To me there is no comparison between the standards of BHN and Turtles, BHN good side but Turtles a stand out.

BHN were miles better than the Turtles in the finals last year so unless you can directly compare their recruits for this season, I'm not sure that I'd be sticking the Turtles on a pedestal. Thet were on that same pedestal this time last year and look what happened. I have no bias towards BHN or negative feeling towards Eltham - just not convinced.
 

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BHN were miles better than the Turtles in the finals last year so unless you can directly compare their recruits for this season, I'm not sure that I'd be sticking the Turtles on a pedestal. Thet were on that same pedestal this time last year and look what happened. I have no bias towards BHN or negative feeling towards Eltham - just not convinced.
BHN no noted recruits, Eltham at least 4 or 5 top class players including there playing coach who is a gun.

And I am not talking about later in the year I am talking right now, we lost the game at BHN home ground and just, they were the better side but Eltham were miles ahead of anything BHN produced that day!
 
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Rumour has it that bulleen is quite happy to see the back of cookson. rumour has it a lot of guys down there blame cookson and ex coach joe d'angelo for the postion the club is in at the moment. Goes to show how weak these guys are that the 1st sign of trouble they bail out as quick as they can!!!!!!
 

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BHN no noted recruits, Eltham at least 4 or 5 top class players including there playing coach who is a gun.

And I am not talking about later in the year I am talking right now, we lost the game at BHN home ground and just, they were the better side but Eltham were miles ahead of anything BHN produced that day!
Falcons07 what positions/areas are the Turtles clearly better than BHN? Or is it just a general thing?
 

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just got a msg from a mate at bulleen some new bloke was down there tonight for a run cant remember his name but a former eltham panther junior and knights player hitting targets left right and centre
This has to be one of the most amusing posts i have read in a long time. Obviously hitting targets at training is a rare thing at Cobra land. On another note, has Cookson gone anywhere- maybe Marcellin?
 
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Falcons07 what positions are the Turtles clearly better than BHN or is it just a general thing?
Definitely fitter, younger but also got the old heads around for leadership, just a good quality side with no obvious weaknesses. Cant go past Blagrove and Garard both of them, plus a couple of new young kids I dont know who play in the midfield who just dont stop running.

Like someone said Eltham went out straight sets last year and BHN were very good against the House before finals, I dont want to sound like sour grapes because we got done on the weekend and I have no doubt BHN will be there abouts come September. Just after playing them both Eltham were a class above.
 
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BHN were miles better than the Turtles in the finals last year so unless you can directly compare their recruits for this season, I'm not sure that I'd be sticking the Turtles on a pedestal. Thet were on that same pedestal this time last year and look what happened. I have no bias towards BHN or negative feeling towards Eltham - just not convinced.
Very convincing Vegemite. Must be good stuff?
 

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Rumour has it that bulleen is quite happy to see the back of cookson. rumour has it a lot of guys down there blame cookson and ex coach joe d'angelo for the postion the club is in at the moment. Goes to show how weak these guys are that the 1st sign of trouble they bail out as quick as they can!!!!!!
Don't believe everything you might hear along the way.

Joe D'Angelo was a very, very good coach who was made a life member of the club at the end of 2005. He was one of the most important mainstays of the club over the last ten years. He left of his own volition. He is welcome at Bulleen any time & receives a very warm welcome whenever he attends the club. I'm sure that the only regret that either Joe or the club would have is that Bulleen weren't able to win the flag under his coaching.

Ben Cookson has won the last 3 B&F's at our club. Even guys from clubs that regularly finish down toward the bottom of the ladder would acknowledge how difficult that sort of feat is. Ben could have suffered from the accusation in his first year of not earning much of his own footy. However I don't believe this to be a fair accusastion over the last year or so. He is not the sort of player to burst through packs, but at his size that is not a fair expectation.

Both Ben & Joe will always be welcome at our club & to the best of my knowledge there is no acrimony toward either of them.
 
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Don't believe everything you might hear along the way.

Joe D'Angelo was a very, very good coach who was made a life member of the club at the end of 2005. He was one of the most important mainstays of the club over the last ten years. He left of his own volition. He is welcome at Bulleen any time & receives a very warm welcome whenever he attends the club. I'm sure that the only regret that either Joe or the club would have is that Bulleen weren't able to win the flag under his coaching.

Ben Cookson has won the last 3 B&F's at our club. Even guys from clubs that regularly finish down toward the bottom of the ladder would acknowledge how difficult that sort of feat is. Ben could have suffered from the accusation in his first year of not earning much of his own footy. However I don't believe this to be a fair accusastion over the last year or so. He is not the sort of player to burst through packs, but at his size that is not a fair expectation.

Both Ben & Joe will always be welcome at our club & to the best of my knowledge there is no acrimony toward either of them.
I can't agree with all of that InFineForm.
Joe left because of family and work - fair enough - no hard feelings - welcome him - whatever!
Ben on the otherhand is soft. You don't leave because as he has said we are a S$!t team and won't win a game. He needs to remember he was part of that team - or at least was supposed to be. Of the two games he palyed you would have hardly said he was a standout. Never one to do many of the hard yards either getting his own footy or on the track. I guess you expect better from the club vice captain and 3 time B & F winner.
 
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I can't agree with all of that InFineForm.
Joe left because of family and work - fair enough - no hard feelings - welcome him - whatever!
Ben on the otherhand is soft. You don't leave because as he has said we are a S$!t team and won't win a game. He needs to remember he was part of that team - or at least was supposed to be. Of the two games he palyed you would have hardly said he was a standout. Never one to do many of the hard yards either getting his own footy or on the track. I guess you expect better from the club vice captain and 3 time B & F winner.
Have noted that Wayne Olney seems to have disappeared - I know he worked hard for many seasons - Anything you can share there? ie is he still with the Cobras or at another club??
 

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Falcons01 do you want a clearance to Eltham or something? You seem to know a lot about us?

St Marys vs Box Hill will be very good test and will give us an indication of where both sides are at. Saints did beat us but thought both sides very evenly matched.


Definitely fitter, younger but also got the old heads around for leadership, just a good quality side with no obvious weaknesses. Cant go past Blagrove and Garard both of them, plus a couple of new young kids I dont know who play in the midfield who just dont stop running.

Like someone said Eltham went out straight sets last year and BHN were very good against the House before finals, I dont want to sound like sour grapes because we got done on the weekend and I have no doubt BHN will be there abouts come September. Just after playing them both Eltham were a class above.
 
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Falcons01 do you want a clearance to Eltham or something? You seem to know a lot about us?

St Marys vs Box Hill will be very good test and will give us an indication of where both sides are at. Saints did beat us but thought both sides very evenly matched.
No sorry mate I like living and training Bayside, I dont really know much, what naming a couple of blokes who everyone knows about makes me an insider haha the little i do know is because I have played against you and I also work with a guy who has been at your club a long time and we enjoy a bit of banter and ribbing.
 
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Fair call, wasnt having a crack just found it funny.

So lets get some tips going for this round?

Also has anyone seen any guns playing in any teams not spoken about?


No sorry mate I like living and training Bayside, I dont really know much, what naming a couple of blokes who everyone knows about makes me an insider haha the little i do know is because I have played against you and I also work with a guy who has been at your club a long time and we enjoy a bit of banter and ribbing.
 
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OK Round 4 tips - Turtles, Saints, Mornington, Lilydale, Falcons & No Idea in the last? but i'll go with Manny's mob for now.

FYI - A.McLaren didn't meet the selection criteria for Round 1 as didn't G.Turner who I both believe made the Scribes team of the year last season? They missed alot of pre season and had to earn there spots through the Magoo's as have a number of other guys the last few weeks.

As for BHN being better than the turtles in last years finals series? Neither won a game, so how can you judge that? It's a new season anyhow & the turtles will improve more from last years experience than i'd expect BHN too?;) If not we'll all see in Round 6 at the turtle dome then won't we?
 

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Rumour has it that bulleen is quite happy to see the back of cookson. rumour has it a lot of guys down there blame cookson and ex coach joe d'angelo for the postion the club is in at the moment. Goes to show how weak these guys are that the 1st sign of trouble they bail out as quick as they can!!!!!!
Here's a line from the man himself.....

As for leaving Bulleen goes that is not the case, the reason to why I missed the game last week was due to injury. I love the club and blokes that play at bulleen. As for fatherlion how do you think you would go training 3 nights a week for a premier cricket club and then trying to get down to footy training? Fatherlion when you have done what I have done for Bulleen come and see me, I'd love to know who you are you are weak not me! Will be back in action this week. C'mon the cobras!

Hopefully he goes out there this week & takes Mt Lilydale apart...
 

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OK Round 4 tips - Turtles, Saints, Mornington, Lilydale, Falcons & No Idea in the last? but i'll go with Manny's mob for now.

FYI - A.McLaren didn't meet the selection criteria for Round 1 as didn't G.Turner who I both believe made the Scribes team of the year last season? They missed alot of pre season and had to earn there spots through the Magoo's as have a number of other guys the last few weeks.

As for BHN being better than the turtles in last years finals series? Neither won a game, so how can you judge that? It's a new season anyhow & the turtles will improve more from last years experience than i'd expect BHN too?;) If not we'll all see in Round 6 at the turtle dome then won't we?
BHN were much better than the Turtles in last years final series. Lost to the eventual premiers by less than 10 points. Eltham were beaten convincingly by both Powerhouse and Hawthorn. Powerhouse then went on to beat Hawthorn.

I would expect both teams to show improvement after failing in the finals.

If I recall correctly wasn't it BHN who ended the Turtles undefeated run last season? and wasn't it at the turtle dome?
 
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Gee lets pencil Box Hill in for the flag then!



BHN were much better than the Turtles in last years final series. Lost to the eventual premiers by less than 10 points. Eltham were beaten convincingly by both Powerhouse and Hawthorn. Powerhouse then went on to beat Hawthorn.

I would expect both teams to show improvement after failing in the finals.

If I recall correctly wasn't it BHN who ended the Turtles undefeated run last season? and wasn't it at the turtle dome?
 
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Gee lets pencil Box Hill in for the flag then!
Who cares about last year, has anyone played both??

Yes my team has and all I am saying is that if these teams met anywhere right now I think that Eltham would be the far better side.

We got pumped by Eltham, we had 8 seniors out on the weekend and lost another first quarter and were leading with a couple of minutes to go against BHN, better than us on the day yes, better than Eltham no where near it.
 
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BHN were much better than the Turtles in last years final series. Lost to the eventual premiers by less than 10 points. Eltham were beaten convincingly by both Powerhouse and Hawthorn. Powerhouse then went on to beat Hawthorn.

I would expect both teams to show improvement after failing in the finals.

If I recall correctly wasn't it BHN who ended the Turtles undefeated run last season? and wasn't it at the turtle dome?
I guess round 6 can't come quick enough for you then Ruck Machine? No point talking about it now, we'll just have to wait and see what happens on that day? I doubt last year really makes any difference especially when 10 of turtles guys from last 3 weeks teams didn't play in the finals for them last year and i'm sure BHN will have a few different faces also??
 

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I guess round 6 can't come quick enough for you then Ruck Machine? No point talking about it now, we'll just have to wait and see what happens on that day? I doubt last year really makes any difference especially when 10 of turtles guys from last 3 weeks teams didn't play in the finals for them last year and I'm sure BHN will have a few different faces also??
Just stating the facts from last year.
Do they have any bearing on form this year, NO. But BHN were better than the turtles in last years finals.

I look forward to every round of D4 footy but I wouldn't be betting against Eltham at home in Round 6. 10 new Players is a huge number in the 1's, no wonder there 2's have a percentage of 600.

One thing I can tell you about D4 footy is that the competition looks pretty even and exciting (as it was last year).
 

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The only thing you can take from last year is that football is not always predictable. Last season Eltham played BH of the ground at BH in the first meeting. Then BH one in the wet at Research.
Both teams suffered from loss of key players (injuries) during the season. Eltham suffered late where BH had a tough run in mid season.
Better players will perform most weeks. The mid to lower range players can have weekly changes in form or suffer from long droughts of form. A teams overall form can change quite a lot from one game to the next.
Good depth and a helpful run on the injury front is the key to a successful season.
Both BH and Eltham seem to have decent ressies sides at present. So no matter how they may drop the odd game here and there, both seem well set up to make it to the business end of the season. And like this weekend, there will be a few cracking match ups, that could go either way on the day. But overall are not necessarily a guide to how they will fair in 2, 4 or 18 weeks time.
 
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Sorry to bring this great tread down – but it is time I jumped on here and made it clear who I am and what is going on. I am Plugger – I wear 28 at Bulleen (Sorry Rocket). Over the last 12 months plenty of people have been on this site and have tried to pass themselves of as me. A few notable examples being Cobrawoes and today Fatherlion.
Grow up people. Bulleen is a great footy club – I love it with a passion – as I expressed at the club meeting last year.
This thread is supposed to be about news in d4 footy. That’s what it should be all about.
Let’s keep all the footy talk positive – I am very glad to here that Cookson hasn’t left – as has been well documented on the thread we certainly need him – he is a very valuable player to the club, and clearly a player other clubs need to keep an eye on.
SO to all those who want to pass themselves off as me – well let’s leave me to being me and why don’t you come out and make yourself known. You are clearly from Bulleen so how about showing yourself and having a crack face to face.
With all that said – I am picking Bulleen to win this week – we have improved significantly over the first 3 rounds, and last week we played a really good side in St Mary’s. They will go far this year. So come on Cobras out there – let’s get behind the club. We have had a tough start to the year and we need to keep together as a group and improve as a club. The magoo’s need to keep plugging away too – we played the 2nd half with 16 guys on the weekend so if you read this site and haven’t been down to the club this year, please come down and lend a hand – a full team will see us get close to a lot of teams.
Go Cobras
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Here here plugger28.

I can say after playing you on the weekend, you blokes gave it a fair crack for what you have!
All this talk about cookson is rubbish. I know him personally and he was out with an injury and im sure will be back to his best with 40 touches against Lilydale.


Sorry to bring this great tread down – but it is time I jumped on here and made it clear who I am and what is going on. I am Plugger – I wear 28 at Bulleen (Sorry Rocket). Over the last 12 months plenty of people have been on this site and have tried to pass themselves of as me. A few notable examples being Cobrawoes and today Fatherlion.
Grow up people. Bulleen is a great footy club – I love it with a passion – as I expressed at the club meeting last year.
This thread is supposed to be about news in d4 footy. That’s what it should be all about.
Let’s keep all the footy talk positive – I am very glad to here that Cookson hasn’t left – as has been well documented on the thread we certainly need him – he is a very valuable player to the club, and clearly a player other clubs need to keep an eye on.
SO to all those who want to pass themselves off as me – well let’s leave me to being me and why don’t you come out and make yourself known. You are clearly from Bulleen so how about showing yourself and having a crack face to face.
With all that said – I am picking Bulleen to win this week – we have improved significantly over the first 3 rounds, and last week we played a really good side in St Mary’s. They will go far this year. So come on Cobras out there – let’s get behind the club. We have had a tough start to the year and we need to keep together as a group and improve as a club. The magoo’s need to keep plugging away too – we played the 2nd half with 16 guys on the weekend so if you read this site and haven’t been down to the club this year, please come down and lend a hand – a full team will see us get close to a lot of teams.
Go Cobras
Plugger out.
 
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Thanks Knackers - I spoke to Ben today and he can't believe all the talk on here. Too many people are too willing to stick the knives in good people. Happens in all things.
You guys were great on the weekend. Was a bit harsh your coach giving you all a spray after the game though? What was said in that??
 
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