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Who wins this draft

  • Adelaide

    Votes: 5 7.1%
  • Brisbane

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Carlton

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Collingwood

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • Essendon

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • Fremantle

    Votes: 4 5.7%
  • Geelong

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Gold Coast

    Votes: 22 31.4%
  • GWS

    Votes: 4 5.7%
  • Hawthorn

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Melbourne

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • North Melbourne

    Votes: 4 5.7%
  • Port Adelaide

    Votes: 14 20.0%
  • Richmond

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • St Kilda

    Votes: 4 5.7%
  • Sydney

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • West Coast

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • Western Bulldogs

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .

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I trust Bishop is not regretting burying himself from this forum. The quality of banter.....:rolleyes:
If you know a better forum for banter I’d like to see it
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D_P_S .... just looking at your revised list ... you have Brownless earlier than BScott... you feel he has elevated to that position..?
My newest rankings has Scott in the top 30 and Brownless a bit further back. Brownless just lacks that little bit of class and inconsistent kicking that makes me think he gets a bid in the 40-60 range
 
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My newest rankings has Scott in the top 30 and Brownless a bit further back. Brownless just lacks that little bit of class and inconsistent kicking that makes me think he gets a bid in the 40-60 range

Thanks for the update.. that falls into what id previously that.. 25-40 for BScott , 40+ for Brownless
 

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Boyd Woodcock is another Ive had a good hard look at

What are your thoughts on him? Seems like he can play, lots of different heights registered for him though, I’ve seen him named at 180cm on NAFC website and 174 on sanfl, from watching his game on the weekend looks around the 180 mark
 

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Jack Ross hasn't done his draft chances any harm late in the season, clearly best on today for the Chargers, personally I think his inside game is as good or better than Liam Stocker yet don't think anyone has him inside the top 50 on the draft boards.
 

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Jack Ross hasn't done his draft chances any harm late in the season, clearly best on today for the Chargers, personally I think his inside game is as good or better than Liam Stocker yet don't think anyone has him inside the top 50 on the draft boards.
His kicking isn’t as good as Stockers and Stocker is a little bit more explosive aswell. I’ve liked Ross all year but having a state combine invite means he most likely gets taken late. He is tough, smart and courageous so I can see him having some fans to atleast be drafted in the national.

What are your thoughts on him? Seems like he can play, lots of different heights registered for him though, I’ve seen him named at 180cm on NAFC website and 174 on sanfl, from watching his game on the weekend looks around the 180 mark
Size is always an issue, needs to have a point of difference for me to see him drafted in the national draft.
 

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His kicking isn’t as good as Stockers and Stocker is a little bit more explosive aswell. I’ve liked Ross all year but having a state combine invite means he most likely gets taken late. He is tough, smart and courageous so I can see him having some fans to atleast be drafted in the national.


Size is always an issue, needs to have a point of difference for me to see him drafted in the national draft.
Thought you might have at least given Jack a mention in your AFLDC article this week....:)

Edit : Apologies, It wasn't your article but Mr. Byrnes. Best on for mine.
 

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Thought you might have at least given Jack a mention in your AFLDC article this week....:)

Edit : Apologies, It wasn't your article but Mr. Byrnes. Best on for mine.
Nah was mine, Oakleigh have plenty of good players up for the draft so I gave preference to those that got National combine invites. Honestly could have done those that got state aswell but I don’t have that much time on my hands to do notes on all of them
 

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Hately is a hard one for me to read, not exactly a pure contested mid for his size and not overly quick or powerful. For me he projects as a Dyson Heppell style of player which isnt a bad thing but with clubs looking for more speed especially early on i could see him going mid to late first round instead of top 10.

He is absolutely a pure contested mid. He is nothing but a pure contested mid. How could you possibly see him any differently. Any glance at his numbers will show you how contested he is.
 

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He is absolutely a pure contested mid. He is nothing but a pure contested mid. How could you possibly see him any differently. Any glance at his numbers will show you how contested he is.
He hasn’t struck me as an in and under type of player this the “pure” contested mid, Heppell also has good contested numbers but he isn’t one I classify as that real contested inside mid much like your Selwoods and Wines who thrive on getting their hands dirty.
 

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He hasn’t struck me as an in and under type of player this the “pure” contested mid, Heppell also has good contested numbers but he isn’t one I classify as that real contested inside mid much like your Selwoods and Wines who thrive on getting their hands dirty.

I see what you mean. I think it might have a bit to do with his size and the fact that he doesn't need to smash in at junior level to win it inside. However, I am with you in that I find him a very difficult one to place. He doesn't really pass the eye test in terms of screaming elite top ten talent but from a production perspective he is almost ahead of every SA kid. In the end I resolved to just assume he might not ever look impressive but boy will he get it done. Maybe like a matt crouch. Those type of players even seem to take longer to get noticed at AFL level because they win so much footy you don't see but they end up with such compelling numbers that you just have to respect them. Tom Mitchell is another example.
 

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I see what you mean. I think it might have a bit to do with his size and the fact that he doesn't need to smash in at junior level to win it inside. However, I am with you in that I find him a very difficult one to place. He doesn't really pass the eye test in terms of screaming elite top ten talent but from a production perspective he is almost ahead of every SA kid. In the end I resolved to just assume he might not ever look impressive but boy will he get it done. Maybe like a matt crouch. Those type of players even seem to take longer to get noticed at AFL level because they win so much footy you don't see but they end up with such compelling numbers that you just have to respect them. Tom Mitchell is another example.
Yep he may be one of those players that just doesn’t have those elite traits to go high in the draft but makes ground in the long run through pure consistency and production. Tall midfielders who can kick goals despite their speed would still be a valuable asset to any team.
 
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I tend to rate hately as similar to Brad Ebert as in he is a spread mid who can win his own ball but isn’t a clearance specialist. Rate him as a fair bit better kick than Ebert and can be a better player but stylistically I think it’s an apt a match as I can think of.
 

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I tend to rate hately as similar to Brad Ebert as in he is a spread mid who can win his own ball but isn’t a clearance specialist. Rate him as a fair bit better kick than Ebert and can be a better player but stylistically I think it’s an apt a match as I can think of.
Mundy/Heppel for me imo. Has that Heppel-like style of winning contested ball, where he wins it fair and square but he isn't barreling in, and that Mundy spread and marking ability forward.

Covers the ground really well and poses a big threat when resting forward. I agree, isn't a coal face specialist but has plenty enough size to do it to a good level and proceed to receive on the outside. Can't remember many junior mids his size that have had as good a tank.

Do really rate beyond pick 10
 

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My newest rankings has Scott in the top 30 and Brownless a bit further back. Brownless just lacks that little bit of class and inconsistent kicking that makes me think he gets a bid in the 40-60 range

Can I ask what makes Brownless an automatic draft selection at all. Admittedly I have only watched him once live and haven't followed his TAC stats this year but when I watched him in the nationals he was far from impressive. Nothing stood out apart from a nice size.
 

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Can I ask what makes Brownless an automatic draft selection at all. Admittedly I have only watched him once live and haven't followed his TAC stats this year but when I watched him in the nationals he was far from impressive. Nothing stood out apart from a nice size.
Good leadership, good hands, is pretty versatile and can find the footy. Lacks speed and class so I think his best bet is to play as an inside midfielder.
 

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Good leadership, good hands, is pretty versatile and can find the footy. Lacks speed and class so I think his best bet is to play as an inside midfielder.

This is my point. I think he is really getting promoted on his name. Lacks speed and class and as far as I'm aware isn't an elite accumulator of the footy. Not for mine and I hope Geelong don't take him with anything but a rookie spot. How good is he as a clearance player. Does he play as an inside mid in the TAC?
 

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This is my point. I think he is really getting promoted on his name. Lacks speed and class and as far as I'm aware isn't an elite accumulator of the footy. Not for mine and I hope Geelong don't take him with anything but a rookie spot. How good is he as a clearance player. Does he play as an inside mid in the TAC?
Has played everywhere for Geelong but his last game was as an inside mid where he had some of his best numbers for the year with

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Good leadership, good hands, is pretty versatile and can find the footy. Lacks speed and class so I think his best bet is to play as an inside midfielder.
Got better late in the season, one of the bigger improvers as the season wore on, quite impressive the last 2 games he played at Mars.
 
Honestly I'd play Brownless as a forward at AFL level tbh. Isn't as effective at stoppages as others. Think because of his bigger body he can win inside ball, but against equally strong, but smarter players he might have a problem. I think he can be damaging as a forward who pinch hits in the mid, but not sure he transitions into full-time mid at AFL level, IMO.
 
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Honestly I'd play Brownless as a forward at AFL level tbh. Isn't as effective at stoppages as others. Think because of his bigger body he can win inside ball, but against equally strong, but smarter players he might have a problem. I think he can be damaging as a forward who pinch hits in the mid, but not sure he transitions into full-time mid at AFL level, IMO.

Maybe a 70/30 mid/foward?
 
Maybe a 70/30 mid/foward?
Maybe, but I'd be leaning more forward than mid. I just think he has more of an impact inside 50 than he does around stoppages. He gets more freedom when Walsh and McHenry have been in the team because the other two are quicker and carefully watched. He's stronger, harder to restrict, but not as damaging. However go forward, and he could well be the most damaging as that inside 50 target compared to the other two (who are better on the run). He's a bit of an awkward one for mine, I'm interested to see how the Cats develop him. Maybe he could be like that Caddy type who plays forward but can push up the ground. I just know you wouldn't play him on the outside or in defence.
 
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