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Of course you would never stoop to those levels now would you...I trust Bishop is not regretting burying himself from this forum. The quality of banter.....
My newest rankings has Scott in the top 30 and Brownless a bit further back. Brownless just lacks that little bit of class and inconsistent kicking that makes me think he gets a bid in the 40-60 rangeD_P_S .... just looking at your revised list ... you have Brownless earlier than BScott... you feel he has elevated to that position..?
My newest rankings has Scott in the top 30 and Brownless a bit further back. Brownless just lacks that little bit of class and inconsistent kicking that makes me think he gets a bid in the 40-60 range
Boyd Woodcock is another Ive had a good hard look at
His kicking isn’t as good as Stockers and Stocker is a little bit more explosive aswell. I’ve liked Ross all year but having a state combine invite means he most likely gets taken late. He is tough, smart and courageous so I can see him having some fans to atleast be drafted in the national.Jack Ross hasn't done his draft chances any harm late in the season, clearly best on today for the Chargers, personally I think his inside game is as good or better than Liam Stocker yet don't think anyone has him inside the top 50 on the draft boards.
Size is always an issue, needs to have a point of difference for me to see him drafted in the national draft.What are your thoughts on him? Seems like he can play, lots of different heights registered for him though, I’ve seen him named at 180cm on NAFC website and 174 on sanfl, from watching his game on the weekend looks around the 180 mark
Thought you might have at least given Jack a mention in your AFLDC article this week....His kicking isn’t as good as Stockers and Stocker is a little bit more explosive aswell. I’ve liked Ross all year but having a state combine invite means he most likely gets taken late. He is tough, smart and courageous so I can see him having some fans to atleast be drafted in the national.
Size is always an issue, needs to have a point of difference for me to see him drafted in the national draft.
Nah was mine, Oakleigh have plenty of good players up for the draft so I gave preference to those that got National combine invites. Honestly could have done those that got state aswell but I don’t have that much time on my hands to do notes on all of themThought you might have at least given Jack a mention in your AFLDC article this week....
Edit : Apologies, It wasn't your article but Mr. Byrnes. Best on for mine.
Hately is a hard one for me to read, not exactly a pure contested mid for his size and not overly quick or powerful. For me he projects as a Dyson Heppell style of player which isnt a bad thing but with clubs looking for more speed especially early on i could see him going mid to late first round instead of top 10.
He hasn’t struck me as an in and under type of player this the “pure” contested mid, Heppell also has good contested numbers but he isn’t one I classify as that real contested inside mid much like your Selwoods and Wines who thrive on getting their hands dirty.He is absolutely a pure contested mid. He is nothing but a pure contested mid. How could you possibly see him any differently. Any glance at his numbers will show you how contested he is.
He hasn’t struck me as an in and under type of player this the “pure” contested mid, Heppell also has good contested numbers but he isn’t one I classify as that real contested inside mid much like your Selwoods and Wines who thrive on getting their hands dirty.
Yep he may be one of those players that just doesn’t have those elite traits to go high in the draft but makes ground in the long run through pure consistency and production. Tall midfielders who can kick goals despite their speed would still be a valuable asset to any team.I see what you mean. I think it might have a bit to do with his size and the fact that he doesn't need to smash in at junior level to win it inside. However, I am with you in that I find him a very difficult one to place. He doesn't really pass the eye test in terms of screaming elite top ten talent but from a production perspective he is almost ahead of every SA kid. In the end I resolved to just assume he might not ever look impressive but boy will he get it done. Maybe like a matt crouch. Those type of players even seem to take longer to get noticed at AFL level because they win so much footy you don't see but they end up with such compelling numbers that you just have to respect them. Tom Mitchell is another example.
Mundy/Heppel for me imo. Has that Heppel-like style of winning contested ball, where he wins it fair and square but he isn't barreling in, and that Mundy spread and marking ability forward.I tend to rate hately as similar to Brad Ebert as in he is a spread mid who can win his own ball but isn’t a clearance specialist. Rate him as a fair bit better kick than Ebert and can be a better player but stylistically I think it’s an apt a match as I can think of.
My newest rankings has Scott in the top 30 and Brownless a bit further back. Brownless just lacks that little bit of class and inconsistent kicking that makes me think he gets a bid in the 40-60 range
Good leadership, good hands, is pretty versatile and can find the footy. Lacks speed and class so I think his best bet is to play as an inside midfielder.Can I ask what makes Brownless an automatic draft selection at all. Admittedly I have only watched him once live and haven't followed his TAC stats this year but when I watched him in the nationals he was far from impressive. Nothing stood out apart from a nice size.
Good leadership, good hands, is pretty versatile and can find the footy. Lacks speed and class so I think his best bet is to play as an inside midfielder.
Has played everywhere for Geelong but his last game was as an inside mid where he had some of his best numbers for the year withThis is my point. I think he is really getting promoted on his name. Lacks speed and class and as far as I'm aware isn't an elite accumulator of the footy. Not for mine and I hope Geelong don't take him with anything but a rookie spot. How good is he as a clearance player. Does he play as an inside mid in the TAC?
Got better late in the season, one of the bigger improvers as the season wore on, quite impressive the last 2 games he played at Mars.Good leadership, good hands, is pretty versatile and can find the footy. Lacks speed and class so I think his best bet is to play as an inside midfielder.
Honestly I'd play Brownless as a forward at AFL level tbh. Isn't as effective at stoppages as others. Think because of his bigger body he can win inside ball, but against equally strong, but smarter players he might have a problem. I think he can be damaging as a forward who pinch hits in the mid, but not sure he transitions into full-time mid at AFL level, IMO.
Maybe, but I'd be leaning more forward than mid. I just think he has more of an impact inside 50 than he does around stoppages. He gets more freedom when Walsh and McHenry have been in the team because the other two are quicker and carefully watched. He's stronger, harder to restrict, but not as damaging. However go forward, and he could well be the most damaging as that inside 50 target compared to the other two (who are better on the run). He's a bit of an awkward one for mine, I'm interested to see how the Cats develop him. Maybe he could be like that Caddy type who plays forward but can push up the ground. I just know you wouldn't play him on the outside or in defence.Maybe a 70/30 mid/foward?