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Help My Club said:
I think it's time for me to take a wander. The heavy "Us against Them" artillery has arrived.

I''l leave on this positive note. I sincerely hope that those supporters who initially threw their No 13 jumpers in the bin and then retrieved them from the bin only to throw them back in the bin have recovered from the experience.
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Simple question really, but if you want to belittle people with the weak us verses them nonesence reply up to you.
Maybe best don't say "one can produce a counter argument" when one can't, Timmy from Thomastown provided a excellent response as to why a rebuild was needed you just provide undying love for a player that acts like a complete flog.
 
westozpie said:
Simple question really, but if you want to belittle people with the weak us verses them nonesence reply up to you.
Maybe best don't say "one can produce a counter argument" when one can't, Timmy from Thomastown provided a excellent response as to why a rebuild was needed you just provide undying love for a player that acts like a complete flog.
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OK I'll bite. I know I'm going to regret this.

Of course there is a strong counter argument which has been detailed on this blog site by others and maybe by myself many times before. I am happy to state it again but for what purpose. You will only vehemently disagree (which is your right), accuse me of being a disloyal supporter, suggest I go barrack for Carlton/Richmond etc. So why waste your time and mine when we know how you and others will respond.
 
Help My Club said:
OK I'll bite. I know I'm going to regret this.

Of course there is a strong counter argument which has been detailed on this blog site by others and maybe by myself many times before. I am happy to state it again but for what purpose. You will only vehemently disagree (which is your right), accuse me of being a disloyal supporter, suggest I go barrack for Carlton/Richmond etc. So why waste your time and mine when we know how you and others will respond.
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You won’t regret it because it’s why you post on this “blog site.”
 
Help My Club said:
OK I'll bite. I know I'm going to regret this.

Of course there is a strong counter argument which has been detailed on this blog site by others and maybe by myself many times before. I am happy to state it again but for what purpose. You will only vehemently disagree (which is your right), accuse me of being a disloyal supporter, suggest I go barrack for Carlton/Richmond etc. So why waste your time and mine when we know how you and others will respond.
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Cmon buddy you can do better than that
 

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We should get Daisy to chat to Jamie Elliot. Show him what it's like when you give up a magpie type retirement.....ooops!
 
I have no problem with Daisy going to the blues on a massive offer.

Like others, the problem I have and the respect he has lost among Pie fans is the way he basically trashed the Pies the moment he walked out the door.

He created the hate. His best memories would have been at the Pies. Premiership player, All Australian, idolised by kids etc etc. I understand him being bitter with Malthouse gone and not receiving a large new contract, but the club is more than a couple of coaches, and admin people.

His former teammates and the members/fans really is what makes up the club. He saw fit to trash that and lost all respect.

I wish the show wasn’t cancelled. If I had known I would have popped in and asked him a few questions. The final one of which why he would try to continue to profit by selling tickets to people to hear him talk about his career? That hardup?
 
Thought I posted ITT already but not seeing it (maybe I have myself on ignore?).

I loved Thomas as a player for us. He played his heart out constantly and showed flair, lairising skill and great team spirit. He was the best possible combination of heart and annoying the opposition. In particular he would be grinding it out in the last quarter: I have no doubt he ran himself into the ground early because he refused to give up.

If he said something stupid, well that means he's stupid, I don't go to the footy for the PhD related craic. Its an emotional game and weve seen with Bucks/Mick split that really top notch football people sometimes say dumbarse comments once they leave the club.

I even liked him for Carlton, he was irritating and tried to scrounge a reaction even when he was little more than a wreck, but he was giving 100% of whatever he had left. I tend not to hate our exers, i liked Scotland too, great player and very honest.

In Thomas' case he was a Premiership star and his actions will always speak louder than anything he blurted out.
 
Help My Club said:
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My question wasn't seeking your opinion on whether at the end of 2012 the Pies list required a rebuild. You may be right. Conversely, one could also provide a counter argument. That's not the point.

My question is, and let me rephrase it ever so slightly : now that Thomas has retired (end 2019) what had he missed out on by not being at Collingwood over the past 5 odd years? Ultimate team success?
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He has missed out on being loved for eternity. He is basically in no mans land now. Can’t be a Collingwood hero because of the way he left. Never a Carlton hero because too injured for too long and cost them heaps. Collingwood had him as king of the kids. My son loved him and never got over him departing. Now he has finished footy there is nothing. If he had’ve Stayed at Pies he’d have income for life.
 

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Kurtles said:
The guy was tier 1 in terms of marketability at Collingwood, how much was he making in additional endorsements and advertising as a Collingwood Star? Switching allegiances almost certainly wiped that out totally and would have cost him a huge amount of money in the long term. If I were him looking back I’d have deep regret and would be more than a little sore at the management team that advised me to switch.

It all worked out ok in the end for the pies though.
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This is a well considered post that makes sense. I fully agree that him moving may not have worked out better for him financially in the long run, but I can't stand that people hate on him for making a decision based on personal financial gain.
 
Big Papa Ted said:
This is a well considered post that makes sense. I fully agree that him moving may not have worked out better for him financially in the long run, but I can't stand that people hate on him for making a decision based on personal financial gain.
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I believe he would have gone even if the money was equivalent, or a little less, than he was receiving at the time.
He wanted out and the employment of Malthouse as Carlton coach gave him the opportunity.
Had Malthouse been appointed coach of any team in the league he would have followed him there.
That’s pretty much the way it was. Thomas didn’t like the new Collingwood regime, Malthouse pitched the job at Carlton as being able to take the current list to finals and that he could get Thomas across.
 
Big Papa Ted said:
but I can't stand that people hate on him for making a decision based on personal financial gain.
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I doubt very much that the annoyance is because of his decision, it is more the way he left and acted immediately after.
 
Gee the obsession with Carlton on this board is nauseating, they haven't been relevant in two decades, why are people still so salty about them?

Who cares where Daisy went whether it was to Carlton or Fremantle or Gold Coast? He went to an absolute pit and never played another final. The thing he'll hang his hat on during retirement is that he played a key role in a Collingwood premiership, something not too many of us have seen many of.
 
Cyclops said:
Thought I posted ITT already but not seeing it (maybe I have myself on ignore?).

I loved Thomas as a player for us. He played his heart out constantly and showed flair, lairising skill and great team spirit. He was the best possible combination of heart and annoying the opposition. In particular he would be grinding it out in the last quarter: I have no doubt he ran himself into the ground early because he refused to give up.

If he said something stupid, well that means he's stupid, I don't go to the footy for the PhD related craic. Its an emotional game and weve seen with Bucks/Mick split that really top notch football people sometimes say dumbarse comments once they leave the club.

I even liked him for Carlton, he was irritating and tried to scrounge a reaction even when he was little more than a wreck, but he was giving 100% of whatever he had left. I tend not to hate our exers, i liked Scotland too, great player and very honest.

In Thomas' case he was a Premiership star and his actions will always speak louder than anything he blurted out.
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Scotland the eye gouger?
 

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