Dale Thomas.

[blue gunslinger]

____ing ridiculous thread. This is blasphemy!!! You watch Marc Murphy shine this year. He will win Brownlows. ____ Thomas, the little showpony.

My point exactly thankyou!

 

[BlueBelle]

Has Thomas had to do the number one job for his side in his second year of football? Has he been tagged all of last season?

Stupid thread.

 

[Artie Bucco]

Ehhh no thanks, Thomas is a good player but Murphy is better.

 

[Blues_Man]

Thats because you, like i am, are bias. Majority of Carlton supporters will say the same as you have, or say in another three years look out.

Yeah, you hate him, because who he plays for, If we did take him and the pies took Murpf, you would most likely hate Murph..

Dale would have done me just fine.

Go away you colonwood troll ...you ain't fooling anyone feral .

 

[Lupton Warchild Pittman]

The difference is Murphy was the standout junior in 05, Thomas was considered quite a way behind him. At this point there is little b/w the players, Thomas has improved at a greater rate of knots than Murphy in the AFL system.

 

[blue gunslinger]

The difference is Murphy was the standout junior in 05, Thomas was considered quite a way behind him. At this point there is little behind the players, Thomas has improved at a greater rate of knots than Murphy in the AFL system.

Well now that you explain it to me
Still HATE him

 

[Premiership Quarter]

That sidestep and pass to Fev last night by Murphy was unbelievable. I have never really seen Thomas do that. I think Murphy is better now.

 

[juzza316]

Go away you colonwood troll ...you ain't fooling anyone feral .

Well i think hes got you fooled because he is in fact a carlton supporter.

The guy is entitled to his opinion (although i would still take murphy over thomas in a heartbeat). Both players will be stars.

 

[EmmzLovesMurpho]

sure, thomas looks flashier and to many better, but last year murph copped a heavy tag as he was our best mid week in week out. thomas just gets to run free along the wing and snap goals. both good players but im happy with murph

I didn't really watch Collingwood matches unless their playing Carlton, but did Dale cop heavy tag in only his 2nd season, And Murph only played a certain amount of games in his first yr due to injury......

I'm happy with Murph over Dale any day haha

 

[cAsEy_18]

Completly agree with the first post. Just throwing out obviously an unbiased opinion, Thomas is something special. Don't get me wrong, Murphy is already, and will continue to be a star, but Thomas already has, and will continue to take it to another level. Disapointing missing out on Thomas, but i wouldn't be at all concerned about having a gun like Murphy in that midfield.

 

[Blues_Man]

The difference is Murphy was the standout junior in 05, Thomas was considered quite a way behind him. At this point there is little b/w the players, Thomas has improved at a greater rate of knots than Murphy in the AFL system.

Thomas is still a ways behind Murphy..you pies ferals tend to overrate EVERY player on your list .

Thomas likes to lairrize whereas Murphy is the naturally gifted footballer with much better skills .

 

[Bob Marley]

Thomas is still a ways behind Murphy..you pies ferals tend to overrate EVERY player on your list .

Thomas likes to lairrize whereas Murphy is the naturally gifted footballer with much better skills .

The 50 year old loser again is rambling on posting purely subjective crap.

When will he grow up and see the light?

 

[thylacine60]

That sidestep and pass to Fev last night by Murphy was unbelievable. I have never really seen Thomas do that. I think Murphy is better now.

By the time Fev retires, Murphy to Fevola will be the Lillee/Marsh of the CFC.

 

[Lupton Warchild Pittman]

whereas Murphy is the naturally gifted footballer with much better skills .

Thomas is a better overhead mark, also a better proven goalkicker. The fact of the matter is Thomas has already won games off his own boot, Murphy hasn't.

 

[mediumsizered]

Thomas is a better overhead mark, also a better proven goalkicker. The fact of the matter is Thomas has already won games off his own boot, Murphy hasn't.

Thomas is a HFF, Murphy is a midfielder. Two totally different types of players. Thomas flashes in & out of the game, Murphy has more consistent input, due to his role in the midfield. Thomas, playing mostly in the forward line averages 0.8 goals per game, Murphy 0.6 goals per game (to put Thomas' goalkicking efforts into perspective, Eddie Betts averages 1.1 goals per game). Thomas averages 15.1 disposals per game, Murphy 18.3 disposals per game.

What does all this tell us about Murphy & Thomas? They play 2 totally different roles for their respective clubs & it will be impossible to compare them as a result. Who is the better player out of Robert Harvey & Fraser Gehrig? Obviously Robert Harvey. But who has won more games off his own boot? Fraser Gehrig.

FWIW, Thomas' career best goalkicking so far is 4 goals in one game. There aren't too many games won off their own boot by players kicking 4 goals in a game (except 100 years ago, when 4 goals would be enough for a team to win a game).

 

[Lupton Warchild Pittman]

Thomas is a HFF, Murphy is a midfielder.

Thomas averages 15.1 disposals per game, Murphy 18.3 disposals per game.

What does all this tell us about Murphy & Thomas?

That Murphy's statistics as a midfielder aren't particulary superior to Thomas, who in your words is a HFF, who spends quite a lot of time out of the midfield. A lot of Carlton fans use the excuse, Murphy has the number 1 tag when defending him, on the contray, if DT played more time in the midfield he would be getting numbers superior to Murphy.

Another common misconception is DT is cream on the cake, he is doing well because he plays for a premiership contender. It's a lot harder to gets kicks on a HFF line than in the middle, where Murphy spends the majority of his game.

I'm not going to expect you to favor Thomas but most neutrals would.

 

[Mayesy_23]

This kid is sensational. And I am now wishing we took him instead of Murphy.
Dont get me wrong, I love Murph, and I know what patential he has, but with all biasism aside, Thomas is good 'now', and he aint going to stop.

You sure you're not a Collingwood supporter?

 

[mediumsizered]

That Murphy's statistics as a midfielder aren't particulary superior to Thomas, who in your words is a HFF, who spends quite a lot of time out of the midfield. A lot of Carlton fans use the excuse, Murphy has the number 1 tag when defending him, on the contray, if DT played more time in the midfield he would be getting numbers superior to Murphy.

Another common misconception is DT is cream on the cake, he is doing well because he plays for a premiership contender. It's a lot harder to gets kicks on a HFF line than in the middle, where Murphy spends the majority of his game.

I'm not going to expect you to favor Thomas but most neutrals would.

Bearing in mind those figures were over their careers to date. Perhaps the figures so far this season, better reflect the difference in disposals: Murphy, 22 per game, Thomas, 15. Thomas averaging this season the same as his career so far, whereas Murphy has stepped it up a level.

BTW, on what basis do you say that most neutrals would favour Thomas over Murphy? Just because you say it is so, does not make it so.

 

[Silvagnis]

That Murphy's statistics as a midfielder aren't particulary superior to Thomas, who in your words is a HFF, who spends quite a lot of time out of the midfield. A lot of Carlton fans use the excuse, Murphy has the number 1 tag when defending him, on the contray, if DT played more time in the midfield he would be getting numbers superior to Murphy.

Another common misconception is DT is cream on the cake, he is doing well because he plays for a premiership contender. It's a lot harder to gets kicks on a HFF line than in the middle, where Murphy spends the majority of his game.

I'm not going to expect you to favor Thomas but most neutrals would.

It's harder to get kicks by winning your own ball and putting your head over the ball.

Thomas is a finisher and an outside player, but you can't look past his blonde locks, flashy style and black and white jumper.

 

[HFF]

Thomas is a good player, don't get me wrong, but he has peaked much before Murphy which I see as his biggest problem. Murphy is much better at finding the ball and is more, what's the word... magical than Dale.

All I am going to say is you shot yourself with that part of your post.

 

[HBF]

That Murphy's statistics as a midfielder aren't particulary superior to Thomas, who in your words is a HFF, who spends quite a lot of time out of the midfield. A lot of Carlton fans use the excuse, Murphy has the number 1 tag when defending him, on the contray, if DT played more time in the midfield he would be getting numbers superior to Murphy.
Another common misconception is DT is cream on the cake, he is doing well because he plays for a premiership contender. It's a lot harder to gets kicks on a HFF line than in the middle, where Murphy spends the majority of his game.

I'm not going to expect you to favor Thomas but most neutrals would.

So if this is the case, why doesn't DT spend time in the midfield?
Anyone who can get 20+ touches a game, shouldn't they be played further up the ground. And it's not like Collingwood have the greatest midfield going around.

 

[CarltonFan]

its only a matter of time before dale thomas gets caught 'parking' wellinghams car after a big night out with some St Kilda slappers.
did i mention that he was caught with didak earlier on at the local bike gang hq.

 

[HFF]

So if this is the case, why doesn't DT spend time in the midfield?
Anyone who can get 20+ touches a game, shouldn't they be played further up the ground. And it's not like Collingwood have the greatest midfield going around.

Good point HBF, but you just have to look at today's performance from Medhurst- 24 possessions, 14 marks and 3 goals playing on a HFF.

It's really not about how many possessions you get, it's where you get them and how damaging you can be when you do get them.

 

[HBF]

Good point HBF, but you just have to look at today's performance from Medhurst- 24 possessions, 14 marks and 3 goals playing on a HFF.

It's really not about how many possessions you get, it's where you get them and how damaging you can be when you do get them.

Well that's true, but the post I was refering to was saying that DT could get 20+ touches in the midfield.

I really think comparisons between the 2 are meaningless, as both Carlton and Collingwood are happy having both guys on their lists.

 

[HFF]

Well that's true, but the post I was refering to was saying that DT could get 20+ touches in the midfield.

I really think comparisons between the 2 are meaningless, as both Carlton and Collingwood are happy having both guys on their lists.

Can't argue with that.