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mansize rooster said:
was not shy to push a ball for four cookies.
seriously!
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That shot is classic Marto - no follow through required.

Used to do that a lot at the WACA with the extra pace, and the carpet like outfield.
 
He was my favourite player after Steve Waugh retired.

Martyn was the best batsman in the world in 2004. That partnership with Gillespie in the second test against India won us the series. He was superb against Pakistan in the 2004-05 summer with hundreds at the WACA and MCG too.

I was there when he hit 96 in a T20 against South Africa. It was Mickey Mouse cricket, but a good memory nonetheless.

He was scape-goated in a horrific way after the 2005 Ashes. When you consider how much mediocrity the current selectors have copped from Ponting, it really was a diabolical decision. I went to the Gabba to see him hit 60 odd in the Shield and then 60 odd again in the ING match that summer. He was superb even though his heart didn't seem in it. Our best number four since Greg Chappell in my opinion.
 
UseYourIllusion said:
He was my favourite player after Steve Waugh retired.

Martyn was the best batsman in the world in 2004. That partnership with Gillespie in the second test against India won us the series. He was superb against Pakistan in the 2004-05 summer with hundreds at the WACA and MCG too.

I was there when he hit 96 in a T20 against South Africa. It was Mickey Mouse cricket, but a good memory nonetheless.

He was scape-goated in a horrific way after the 2005 Ashes. When you consider how much mediocrity the current selectors have copped from Ponting, it really was a diabolical decision. I went to the Gabba to see him hit 60 odd in the Shield and then 60 odd again in the ING match that summer. He was superb even though his heart didn't seem in it. Our best number four since Greg Chappell in my opinion.
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He copped a couple of stinking decisions in that ashes series as well.

He has never been replaced in Australian team. Everyone who has been tried at number 4 since has failed.
 

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Dipper said:
And anyone who is called 'the biggest w@nker on the planet' by Hayden is alright by me.
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Spot on. Haydos = Class A w***er, well known. My ex-gf used to work in catering at the WACA and Haydos wasn't afraid to drop c-bombs on a regular basis when he was having a temper tantrum. i think it was the same game when he smashed a mirror. Classy guy. Its no wonder you hear jack-shit from him these days.
 
Belnakor said:
Spot on. Haydos = Class A Moo, well known. My ex-gf used to work in catering at the WACA and Haydos wasn't afraid to drop c-bombs on a regular basis when he was having a temper tantrum. i think it was the same game when he smashed a mirror. Classy guy. Its no wonder you hear jack-shit from him these days.
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Haven't you heard, he's a leisuretainment superstar!
 
Belnakor said:
haha so true.

Everytime i want a laugh I just goto http://www.thehaydenway.com/about/
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We almost need a private board for this type of stuff, but I despise the man and his two faced approach ie. holier than thou off the field and master sledger on it. You can't have it both ways. I'll never forget the "leisure-tainment" press release, it just had w***er written all over it.

I admire the blokes whom played hard but fair and then drifted quietly off into the ether, rather than hanging on and trying to continually cash in on former glorys.

I got Gilly to sign his book for me one day and lavished my thanks. He turned it round and said thank you to me and that he would continue to sign stuff for as long as anyone wanted him to as it was a small price for the opportunities the game had given him.

Martyn often gets a bad rap for being stand offish, but he's just a private person who got burned by the media and officialdom on a couple of occasions and chose to close himself off from it all as a result.
 
Yabba said:
He copped a couple of stinking decisions in that ashes series as well.
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He was brutalised by the Umps in that tour; then scape-goated.

Again.

Loved the guy; not everybody has to be a larger than life blokey-bloke - I liked his reserved intensity.
 
Belnakor said:
People say the decision referral system doesn't help players, but Martyn's career was definately shortened by getting 3-4 dodgy LBWs within a short space of time.
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IIRC there were two dodgy LBW and a shocker caught behind.
 

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Beautiful to watch in full flight.

He could also bowl some pretty handy medium pace in the early days as did Mark Waugh.
 
See my screen Name. One of the most under rated aussie sportsman in my life time. Best timer of a ball I have ever seen. that forward defense against the WI proves it. I remember creaming my pants watching it!
 
Im going a bit against the grain here, but always hated him. Dont get me wrong one of the "prettiest" batsmen weve had.

But I guess i was always more a Mark and Steve Waugh guy. And in a way he kind of took their spots. When Martyn finally did get a permanant top 6 spot i thought he was too old to of cracked the team and we shouldve looked at younger guys who'd still be playing today.
 
Team DJ said:
Im going a bit against the grain here, but always hated him. Dont get me wrong one of the "prettiest" batsmen weve had.

But I guess i was always more a Mark and Steve Waugh guy. And in a way he kind of took their spots. When Martyn finally did get a permanant top 6 spot i thought he was too old to of cracked the team and we shouldve looked at younger guys who'd still be playing today.
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Team DJ said:
Im going a bit against the grain here, but always hated him. Dont get me wrong one of the "prettiest" batsmen weve had.

But I guess i was always more a Mark and Steve Waugh guy. And in a way he kind of took their spots. When Martyn finally did get a permanant top 6 spot i thought he was too old to of cracked the team and we shouldve looked at younger guys who'd still be playing today.
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If we didn't have Martyn, we don't beat India in 2004.

BTW, Mark Waugh was diabolical at the end.
 

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Team DJ said:
Cool story bro. I stand by it.

I never said he wasnt any good. Just simply thought other blokes shouldve been picked when he did
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Such as?
 
Team DJ said:
Well at the time when he was selected Hussey and Hodge are both a few years younger and were putting up massive scores.
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http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2000-01/AUS_LOCAL/STATS/FC_2000-01_BAT_MOST_RUNS.html

That's the first class stats for the summer prior the 2001 Ashes (when Marto got back in the test team). Hussey had a dog average year, although I'll give you that Hodge scored well. You can't look at Martyn's stats at that time though and say he didn't deserve to be picked. He was scoring well in Shield cricket and was performing highly in the Australian One Day Team.
 
Kyptastic said:
http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2000-01/AUS_LOCAL/STATS/FC_2000-01_BAT_MOST_RUNS.html

That's the first class stats for the summer prior the 2001 Ashes (when Marto got back in the test team). Hussey had a dog average year, although I'll give you that Hodge scored well. You can't look at Martyn's stats at that time though and say he didn't deserve to be picked. He was scoring well in Shield cricket and was performing highly in the Australian One Day Team.
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30 years old, compared to 27 for Hodge and 26 for Hussey.

Katich and Love also have about 3 years on Martyn as well.

Martyn was scoring a heap of runs. But like Hodge through our recent dog years, they had to look further forward then that.

Martyn Langer Hayden Gilchrist all were within 1 year of each other at that time. Thats 4 of your top 7.
 
Team DJ said:
30 years old, compared to 27 for Hodge and 26 for Hussey.

Katich and Love also have about 3 years on Martyn as well.

Martyn was scoring a heap of runs. But like Hodge through our recent dog years, they had to look further forward then that.

Martyn Langer Hayden Gilchrist all were within 1 year of each other at that time. Thats 4 of your top 7.
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How far do you look ahead though? There's no point always planning 8 years into the future - that hurts your results at the moment. It's not like there was a World Cup to build for like in ODI's.

Can't include Langer as part of that group. They dropped him for Martyn. He only got back in because Slater was rubbish.

They got 5/6 good years out of Martyn. That's a win in my book.
 

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